'Rubbing America's Nose In It'

[EvilCat Breath]

Why did Trump leave all that equipment there when he withdrew 75% of the troops and 0% of the equipment?

He didn't. His plan was to get the civilians out, then the equipment, then the troops. Fuckwad Biden withdrew with no notice to anyone leaving everything, including people behind.

 

[beagle9]

Gee if that's true then we have the world's worst military leaders as it was the Military who was tasked with the evacuation including the necessary degradation of any equipment we were not taking with us. But of course it's not true, it's the Saul Biden Biglie as told by budding fascist as Neo-GOP central Faux Not News.

The Afghan Army was also equipped by the USA and their equipment is what the Taliban was able to capture.

But lying about and denigrating Biden is Big Business, well the only Business in Neo-GOP land.

Military Leaders, Gen. Milley Testify on Afghanistan Exit: Full Hearing Transcript | Rev Blog

Gen. Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin testified on the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan during a Senate hearing on September 28. Milley addressed his calls with China. Read the transcript of the hearing below.

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Lying eh ? Matters not if the Afghan army had the equipment in their possession, because the expected fall of the Afghan army once the Taliban was to take over (and the U.S. knew what would be the outcome), then the removal of the equipment would have alerted the Afghan army that they were being abandoned, and the ultimate outcome was soon to allow the Taliban to take back over the country.

So the dilemma for the U.S. was that the equipment had to remain no matter what the outcome. To attempt to remove it or destroy it would have signaled the coming fall, and signaled the abandoning of the Army to the Taliban forces.

Can you imagine how many Afghans have probably been tortured of killed in the situation ? Memories of Vietnam being abandoned comes back to haunt.

 

[beagle9]

The Traitor sold out the Afghan Government to the Taliban. Mr. Biden was stuck with troop out set up the Traitor. Agreement made by the Traitor is the one Biden was stuck with.

It was the Traitor that invited the Taliban to Camp David. GateWay FuckNuts is a pay by word Reich Wing Propaganda Site.

And if Trump would have remained in office the COUNTRY may have united in peace, because Trump was overseeing the situation, and the Taliban feared Trump, but once they saw Biden take over it was on then. Total chaos and mayhem with torture and murder to boot.

 

[cnm]

'Rubbing America's Nose In It'​

And it still hasn't learnt to not make a puddle on the carpet...

 

[Coyote]

he talked with them to end a fucking war you sick bitch,,,

it was biden that armed terrorists,,

So you negotiate with terrorists and omit completely the government? Promising them Afghanistan. What a trailer.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He didn't. His plan was to get the civilians out, then the equipment, then the troops.

Trump pulled out 75% of the troops and took no equipment with them other than what belonged to the unit. So, he did not even follow his own plan.

 

[progressive hunter]

So you negotiate with terrorists and omit completely the government? Promising them Afghanistan. What a trailer.

no thats what biden did,,

I know,, you wanted to keep the war going but it has to stop sometime,,

 

[The Duke]

Well, he botched the withdraw but thanks to your lord and master, he had a deadline.

So, why wasn't potatohead moving all that equipment out during the 2 extra months he gave himself by breaking the deal with the Taliban?

 

[progressive hunter]

Trump pulled out 75% of the troops and took no equipment with them other than what belonged to the unit. So, he did not even follow his own plan.

you forgot to show the manifest that shows no equipment was brought out,,

 

[progressive hunter]

So you negotiate with terrorists and omit completely the government? Promising them Afghanistan. What a trailer.

what you dont do is leave terrorist 80 billion dollars in military grade arms like biden did,,

 

[The Duke]

So why did Trump decimate our troop strength when the Taliban was not complying with the Conditions of the Doha Accords? Isn't the point of a conditional withdrawal to be based on the enemy complying with the conditions before you withdraw? If you take away your leverage how do you expect Joe to get the enemy to comply? Re-invade? Did the Neo-GOP want to see Joe Biden re-invade Afghanistan?

The Taliban did comply with the conditions. Only Biden did not honor the conditions.

There were no American casualties for 6 mos or thereabouts. No Taliban attacked Americans.

It was really only supposed to be 4 mos. That was the timeline agreed upon.

 

[The Duke]

How exactly did extending the truce and our final exit date through Aug 31st absolve Trump of the effects of his unconditional withdrawals of 2020 as well as not holding the Taliban accountable for the other conditions they ignored? The Neo-GOP had already absolved him and the so called liberal media couldn't wait to blame it on Biden. In reality it was Trumps' baby.

You still can't answer why the unconditional withdrawal was acceptable after all the crowing the Administration did about the Conditions. It's a Neo-JOKE an it on you America.

Right, right. Except for the ones made under the Doha Accords of course. See the Taliban was out of compliance within 2 weeks and not a single soldier should have been withdrawn and those that were withdrawn were not withdrawn based on the agreed upon conditions. That's an unconditional withdrawal. "There were seven conditions applicable to the Taliban and eight conditions applicable to the United States. While the Taliban did not attack US forces, which was one of the conditions, it failed to fully honor, any, any other condition under the Doha agreement." The agreement was 8600 troops but even after the accord time was up Benedict Donald continued to withdrew more based on no conditions the Taliban had to meet. In fact shortly after his election loss was announced, he ordered the complete withdrawal by Jan 15th. Imaging how the Afghans felt about being abandoned 3 months ahead of time.......

Gen. Milley: (31:22)
And perhaps most importantly, for US national security, that Taliban has never renounced Al-Qaeda or broke its affiliation with them. We the United States adhered to every condition. In the fall of 2020 my analysis was that an accelerated withdrawal without meeting specific and necessary conditions risks losing the substantial gains made in Afghanistan, damaging US worldwide credibility, and could precipitate a general collapse of the ANSF and the Afghan government resulting in a complete Taliban takeover or general civil war.

Why are you lying? Tommy Flanagan, is that you?

Not sure where you get your information, but you're all kinds of wrong on just about everything.

 

[The Duke]

Killed in an ISIS Terrorist attack. Which falls back on Trump for not enforcing the Conditions he negotiated with the Taliban but still withdrawing 80% of our troops. They never cracked down on other Islamic Terrorists to operating in Afghanistan. Less KIA than Trump or any other CiC during the 20 years we occupied them.

Okay, now you're just a lying retard.

 

[easyt65]

So you negotiate with terrorists and omit completely the government? Promising them Afghanistan. What a trailer.

The Afghani govt was part of the talks. Don't lie / be stupid.

 

[easyt65]

Biden, his administration, & Obama's 'Woke' generals completely failed on the withdawal.

 

[BlindBoo]

The Taliban did comply with the conditions. Only Biden did not honor the conditions.

"Under the Doha agreement, the US would begin to withdraw its forces contingent upon Taliban meeting certain conditions, which would lead to a political agreement between the Taliban and the government of Afghanistan. There were seven conditions applicable to the Taliban and eight conditions applicable to the United States. While the Taliban did not attack US forces, which was one of the conditions, it failed to fully honor, any, any other condition under the Doha agreement."

Gen. Milley: (31:22)
And perhaps most importantly, for US national security, that Taliban has never renounced Al-Qaeda or broke its affiliation with them. We the United States adhered to every condition."

Military Leaders, Gen. Milley Testify on Afghanistan Exit: Full Hearing Transcript | Rev Blog

Gen. Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin testified on the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan during a Senate hearing on September 28. Milley addressed his calls with China. Read the transcript of the hearing below.

www.rev.com

 

[progressive hunter]

"Under the Doha agreement, the US would begin to withdraw its forces contingent upon Taliban meeting certain conditions, which would lead to a political agreement between the Taliban and the government of Afghanistan. There were seven conditions applicable to the Taliban and eight conditions applicable to the United States. While the Taliban did not attack US forces, which was one of the conditions, it failed to fully honor, any, any other condition under the Doha agreement."

Gen. Milley: (31:22)
And perhaps most importantly, for US national security, that Taliban has never renounced Al-Qaeda or broke its affiliation with them. We the United States adhered to every condition."

Military Leaders, Gen. Milley Testify on Afghanistan Exit: Full Hearing Transcript | Rev Blog

Gen. Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin testified on the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan during a Senate hearing on September 28. Milley addressed his calls with China. Read the transcript of the hearing below.

www.rev.com

but you said it was unconditional,,

now you post conditions,,

why did you lie??

 

[The Duke]

"Under the Doha agreement, the US would begin to withdraw its forces contingent upon Taliban meeting certain conditions, which would lead to a political agreement between the Taliban and the government of Afghanistan. There were seven conditions applicable to the Taliban and eight conditions applicable to the United States. While the Taliban did not attack US forces, which was one of the conditions, it failed to fully honor, any, any other condition under the Doha agreement."

Gen. Milley: (31:22)
And perhaps most importantly, for US national security, that Taliban has never renounced Al-Qaeda or broke its affiliation with them. We the United States adhered to every condition."

Military Leaders, Gen. Milley Testify on Afghanistan Exit: Full Hearing Transcript | Rev Blog

Gen. Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin testified on the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan during a Senate hearing on September 28. Milley addressed his calls with China. Read the transcript of the hearing below.

www.rev.com

So Milley said. That's hearsay. He didn't make the agreement.

The agreement was to be out by May 1, 2021 and they all knew it.

Steps should have been taken to make it so, and were NOT. The military thought they could extend the war and Biden wanted a photo op

and a big speech.

 

[Delldude]

Arming the Taliban was almost certainly intentional. They are expected to continue the fight against ISIS and others allied against America.

I wouldn't bet on that.

The vehicles weren't worth the military's labour and manpower to destroy.

They repaired them and have been selling them and seized arms on the global arms markets.

Authorities in Indian-controlled Kashmir tell NBC News that militants trying to annex the region for Pakistan are carrying M4s, M16s and other U.S.-made arms and ammunition that have rarely been seen in the 30-year conflict. A major reason, they say, is a regional flood of U.S.-funded weapons that fell into the hands of the Taliban when U.S.-led NATO forces withdrew from Afghanistan in 2021.

Most of the weapons recovered so far, officials say, are from Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) or Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), both Pakistan-based militant groups that the U.S. designates as terrorist organizations. In a Twitter post last year, for example, police said they had seized an M4 carbine assault rifle after a gunfight that killed two militants from JeM.

U.S. arms left in Afghanistan are turning up in a different conflict

Otherwise they would have taken out thousands of Americans and American planes escaping the country.

One plane taken out and all hell would have broken loose.They knew that.

 

[BlindBoo]

Not sure where you get your information, but you're all kinds of wrong on just about everything.

Everything Faux Not the News told you about Afghanistan was a lie.

Military Leaders, Gen. Milley Testify on Afghanistan Exit: Full Hearing Transcript | Rev Blog

Gen. Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin testified on the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan during a Senate hearing on September 28. Milley addressed his calls with China. Read the transcript of the hearing below.

www.rev.com

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf