Rousey v Holm

[Asclepias]

Holm exposed Rousey az the FRAUD she was/is. Hopefully this is the last we hear/see of the woman who could never quite get ut done when it mattered (BRONZE medal, anyone?)

A fraud doesn't go undefeated as long as she did.
She took on everyone. She didn't hand-pick her fights.
She's always been a better grappler than a puncher. I think her quick KO in her last fight just made her a bit overconfident in her punching ability.
Truth is, most female MMA fighters try to trade punches. Rousey is the first I've seen that can beat you without throwing a punch. I think she needs to go back to that.....and she needs to use her kicks more. She didn't kick the Holly once.

Holly and her team came up with a plan, and she executed it perfectly.

Rousey was becoming a one trick pony. It was devastating trick, but something that can be countered by the right person. Holly was the right person.

Now we get to see if Rousey learns from this or not.

Can you change from being a kick assed/take no prisoner fighter to a tactical fighter?

Once you get your ass wasted most people start getting tactical.

 

[martybegan]

Holm exposed Rousey az the FRAUD she was/is. Hopefully this is the last we hear/see of the woman who could never quite get ut done when it mattered (BRONZE medal, anyone?)

A fraud doesn't go undefeated as long as she did.
She took on everyone. She didn't hand-pick her fights.
She's always been a better grappler than a puncher. I think her quick KO in her last fight just made her a bit overconfident in her punching ability.
Truth is, most female MMA fighters try to trade punches. Rousey is the first I've seen that can beat you without throwing a punch. I think she needs to go back to that.....and she needs to use her kicks more. She didn't kick the Holly once.

Holly and her team came up with a plan, and she executed it perfectly.

Rousey was becoming a one trick pony. It was devastating trick, but something that can be countered by the right person. Holly was the right person.

Now we get to see if Rousey learns from this or not.

Can you change from being a kick assed/take no prisoner fighter to a tactical fighter?

it depends. The big question is are there other fighters out there like Holly, or is she an aberration among the ranks of Female UFC fighters.

In baseball Pedro Martinez changed from being a fireballer to a pitcher, so it has happened in other sports.

But it also can go bad. Peyton Manning hasn't been able to adjust yet to his failing body.

 

[mudwhistle]

Holm exposed Rousey az the FRAUD she was/is. Hopefully this is the last we hear/see of the woman who could never quite get ut done when it mattered (BRONZE medal, anyone?)

A fraud doesn't go undefeated as long as she did.
She took on everyone. She didn't hand-pick her fights.
She's always been a better grappler than a puncher. I think her quick KO in her last fight just made her a bit overconfident in her punching ability.
Truth is, most female MMA fighters try to trade punches. Rousey is the first I've seen that can beat you without throwing a punch. I think she needs to go back to that.....and she needs to use her kicks more. She didn't kick the Holly once.

Holly and her team came up with a plan, and she executed it perfectly.

Rousey was becoming a one trick pony. It was devastating trick, but something that can be countered by the right person. Holly was the right person.

Now we get to see if Rousey learns from this or not.

Can you change from being a kick assed/take no prisoner fighter to a tactical fighter?

it depends. The big question is are there other fighters out there like Holly, or is she an aberration among the ranks of Female UFC fighters.

In baseball Pedro Martinez changed from being a fireballer to a pitcher, so it has happened in other sports.

But it also can go bad. Peyton Manning hasn't been able to adjust yet to his failing body.

Even the best get beat....except maybe Rocky Marciano. I've watched some of his fights and discovered that he wasn't always the devastating puncher he was billed as.....but he was smart and he adapted to everyone's tactics. I think Rhonda wasn't prepared to fight Holly Holm's style. It was like watching Muhammad Ali. Somebody like that, you rush them and put them on the mat. But you don't do it in the first seconds of the fight. You time her. Look for openings. Don't get overly aggressive like Rhonda did.

 

[Anathema]

.Rousey was becoming a one trick pony. It was devastating trick, but something that can be countered by the right person. Holly was the right person.

Now we get to see if Rousey learns from this or not.

I'm not so sure we get that chance. In her only statement since Saturday night she said she still plans,to step away for a while. She has two movies to shoot in early 2016. After that, and with her "shattered" ego (as reported several places online, I thi k she might give WWE a call and go that way. It wojld be a short-lived experiment but it would spell the end for ger MMA career.

 

[martybegan]

.Rousey was becoming a one trick pony. It was devastating trick, but something that can be countered by the right person. Holly was the right person.

Now we get to see if Rousey learns from this or not.

I'm not so sure we get that chance. In her only statement since Saturday night she said she still plans,to step away for a while. She has two movies to shoot in early 2016. After that, and with her "shattered" ego (as reported several places online, I thi k she might give WWE a call and go that way. It wojld be a short-lived experiment but it would spell the end for ger MMA career.

Gotta give her a week or two to get over getting her ass kicked. I see her as too much of a competitor to just walk away without even trying to get a re-match.

 

[mudwhistle]

.Rousey was becoming a one trick pony. It was devastating trick, but something that can be countered by the right person. Holly was the right person.

Now we get to see if Rousey learns from this or not.

I'm not so sure we get that chance. In her only statement since Saturday night she said she still plans,to step away for a while. She has two movies to shoot in early 2016. After that, and with her "shattered" ego (as reported several places online, I thi k she might give WWE a call and go that way. It wojld be a short-lived experiment but it would spell the end for ger MMA career.

I don't see the point of her fighting anymore. She's gonna make millions in movies as an action star. It's a lot safer....and other MMA Champs went that route. She should walk away while she's still pretty.

 

[ChrisL]

OMG! I can't believe she lost like that! Maybe she just had an off night.

I'm a Rousey fan buuuut she got outsmarted and out fought by Holm.
A couple of thoughts;

Holm kept Rousey at bay.
Early on, Rousey looked confused and started flailing,
The couple of times Rousey managed to catch up to Holm, Holm's takedown defense stopped Rousey in her tracks.
Holm's takedown defense is the best in the biz and totally stifled Rousey's great grappling.

I watched the fight at a sports bar and was surprised at the cheering for Rousey's loss as opposed to cheering for Holm's win.

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Oh well, can't win them all! Not everyone can be like the Patriots.

 

[martybegan]

OMG! I can't believe she lost like that! Maybe she just had an off night.

I'm a Rousey fan buuuut she got outsmarted and out fought by Holm.
A couple of thoughts;

Holm kept Rousey at bay.
Early on, Rousey looked confused and started flailing,
The couple of times Rousey managed to catch up to Holm, Holm's takedown defense stopped Rousey in her tracks.
Holm's takedown defense is the best in the biz and totally stifled Rousey's great grappling.

I watched the fight at a sports bar and was surprised at the cheering for Rousey's loss as opposed to cheering for Holm's win.

.​

Oh well, can't win them all! Not everyone can be like the Patriots.

The Giants are still Patriot Kyrptonite. It's just stronger during thr superbowl.

 

[ChrisL]

OMG! I can't believe she lost like that! Maybe she just had an off night.

I'm a Rousey fan buuuut she got outsmarted and out fought by Holm.
A couple of thoughts;

Holm kept Rousey at bay.
Early on, Rousey looked confused and started flailing,
The couple of times Rousey managed to catch up to Holm, Holm's takedown defense stopped Rousey in her tracks.
Holm's takedown defense is the best in the biz and totally stifled Rousey's great grappling.

I watched the fight at a sports bar and was surprised at the cheering for Rousey's loss as opposed to cheering for Holm's win.

.​

Oh well, can't win them all! Not everyone can be like the Patriots.

The Giants are still Patriot Kyrptonite. It's just stronger during thr superbowl.

We beat them in their stadium. I don't think the Giants will be going to the SB this year.

 

[ChrisL]

But I digress, this is not a football thread. My bad.

 

[Unkotare]

I hate my friends who say Ronda could beat me in a fight. I wrestled in college......

But were you any good? You were probably a scrub and she'd probably make you cry for mommy.

Good enough to beat a girl or you.

Unlikely, scrub.

 

[martybegan]

OMG! I can't believe she lost like that! Maybe she just had an off night.

I'm a Rousey fan buuuut she got outsmarted and out fought by Holm.
A couple of thoughts;

Holm kept Rousey at bay.
Early on, Rousey looked confused and started flailing,
The couple of times Rousey managed to catch up to Holm, Holm's takedown defense stopped Rousey in her tracks.
Holm's takedown defense is the best in the biz and totally stifled Rousey's great grappling.

I watched the fight at a sports bar and was surprised at the cheering for Rousey's loss as opposed to cheering for Holm's win.

.​

Oh well, can't win them all! Not everyone can be like the Patriots.

The Giants are still Patriot Kyrptonite. It's just stronger during thr superbowl.

We beat them in their stadium. I don't think the Giants will be going to the SB this year.

Which means the Pats would actually have a chance of winning.

 

[Anathema]

Gotta give her a week or two to get over getting her ass kicked. I see her as too much of a competitor to just walk away without even trying to get a re-match.

Look at her reactions after losing in her 2 Olympic appearances. That reaction will be even worse this time around. I believe she lect the Olympics after being eliminated in 2004 and was so upset with herself after 2008 that she took a year off and never went back to the sport.

 

[Anathema]

I don't see the point of her fighting anymore. She's gonna make millions in movies as an action star. It's a lot safer....and other MMA Champs went that route. She should walk away while she's still pretty.

Ronda has a short window before she becomes yesterday's news since she's no longer the champ.

 

[martybegan]

Gotta give her a week or two to get over getting her ass kicked. I see her as too much of a competitor to just walk away without even trying to get a re-match.

Look at her reactions after losing in her 2 Olympic appearances. That reaction will be even worse this time around. I believe she lect the Olympics after being eliminated in 1994 and was so upset with herself after 1998 that she took a year off and never went back to the sport.

I think you got the years mixed up. In 1994 she was 7.

 

[Anathema]

I think you got the years mixed up. In 1994 she was 7.

2004 and 2008 were her 2 Olympic appearances.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Footwork and staying outside killed Rousey

 

[martybegan]

I think you got the years mixed up. In 1994 she was 7.

2004 and 2008 were her 2 Olympic appearances.

Yes, but you typed 1994 and 1998.

 

[Anathema]

Yes, but you typed 1994 and 1998.

Which has now been corrected. Thank you for noticing the errors so they could be fixed.

Regardless of the dates, the events show s very thi. Skinned and less than resilient mentailty to losing, which I understand very well from my own competitiveness issues.

 

[martybegan]

Yes, but you typed 1994 and 1998.

Which has now been corrected. Thank you for noticing the errors so they could be fixed.

Regardless of the dates, the events show s very thi. Skinned and less than resilient mentailty to losing, which I understand very well from my own competitiveness issues.

Not sure I agree. she was in the Olympics at 17 in 2004, and she did win gold at the World Juniors that year.
And she medalled in 2008, although I don't understand how you give two bronzes out for the same competition.

Yes, she became over hyped, and yes, I know people can't stand her for that and other reasons, that doesn't change the facf that she won a ton of stuff, and then ran into a fighter that negated her strengths.