Ron Paul: "They're Terrorists Because We're Occupiers".

[blu]

blu, you aren't bright enough to make such a statement, so give us a credible source.

you have to be shitting me

Israeli army admits stealing organs | The Daily Telegraph
Doctor admits Israeli pathologists harvested organs without consent | World news | The Guardian

there was a huge thread on it here as well and the israel-first zionists defended it as usual

 

[CMike]

blu, you aren't bright enough to make such a statement, so give us a credible source.

you have to be shitting me

Israeli army admits stealing organs | The Daily Telegraph
Doctor admits Israeli pathologists harvested organs without consent | World news | The Guardian

there was a huge thread on it here as well and the israel-first zionists defended it as usual

Sorry I missed the part about the murdering.

Could you please quote it?

 

[The Rabbi]

blu, you aren't bright enough to make such a statement, so give us a credible source.

you have to be shitting me

Israeli army admits stealing organs | The Daily Telegraph
Doctor admits Israeli pathologists harvested organs without consent | World news | The Guardian

there was a huge thread on it here as well and the israel-first zionists defended it as usual

You obviously missed the discussion with links as to what actually happened. Needless to say, it was a very very long way from what you purport.
I think I've seen enough crap from you. You are an ignorant troll. On other boards you'd be long gone so I have to impose a little "Jewish lightning" myself and disappear you.

 

[QUENTIN]

Israelis and Palestinians both have a right to their land, and more importantly neither have a right to kill civilians on either side.

When Palestinians lob ineffective missiles blindly into Israel, they are wrong. When Israelis respond by massacreing 700+ Palestinians including hundreds of children, they are considerably more in the wrong. War, terrorism, and murder are inherently immoral acts but there is a degree of morality to proportional response sorely lacking. Both Palestinian terrorists and Israeli soldiers intentionally target innocent civilians, there are no good guys who commit that kind of violence.

Nothing will be solved so long as either side is rewarded for acting atrociously and until the intense and unbridled racism and dehumanization on both sides is overcome by education and compassion. Other nations declaring themselves in firm support of either group when one harbors terrorists and the other harbors war criminals is further destructive to all parties.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If the Rabbi and I are in agreement on something, I am pretty sure that we are right on that decision.

blu, please quote the credible link that states the Israelis murdered people, then the doctors harvested the organs of the murdered people.

 

[CMike]

How is this guy a republican? Violence is due to the choices of the violent person.

You are a disengenuos asshole. How would you feel if the country you have your only true allegience to, Israel, was occupied for whatever reason?...and I can think of several...

What would you do? Just bend over and take it? The problem with subversive traitors such as yourself is that you have no respect for anyone that does not share YOUR fantasy beliefs.

If I had my "violent choice" all of the mid east countries would have the same access to nukes and all you morons could let the nuclear snow fall where it may.

Yes we make enemies by occupying others lands. You make no headway protecting Israel denying that fact. You just expose your willfull traitorous deception.

There is never EVER EVER EVER EVER an excuse for for terrorists targeting and blowing up civilians.

The terrorists are nothing but the scumiest shitties filth on earth, and I am disgusted at people making excuses for these vile creatures.

The terrorists made a choice to target and create terror among civilians.

The terrorists need to be extreminated.

 

[CMike]

Israelis and Palestinians both have a right to their land, and more importantly neither have a right to kill civilians on either side.

When Palestinians lob ineffective missiles blindly into Israel, they are wrong. When Israelis respond by massacreing 700+ Palestinians including hundreds of children, they are considerably more in the wrong. War, terrorism, and murder are inherently immoral acts but there is a degree of morality to proportional response sorely lacking. Both Palestinian terrorists and Israeli soldiers intentionally target innocent civilians, there are no good guys who commit that kind of violence.

Nothing will be solved so long as either side is rewarded for acting atrociously and until the intense and unbridled racism and dehumanization on both sides is overcome by education and compassion. Other nations declaring themselves in firm support of either group when one harbors terrorists and the other harbors war criminals is further destructive to all parties.

Israel doesn't massacre civilians.

The arab terrorists intentionally launch attacks from hospitals, mosques, and schools counting on the fact that Israelis are moral people.

Israelis care more about the palestinian civilians than the palestinians do.

There is a right and wrong.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Uh, Cmike, our Patriots in the War of Independence engaged in terroristic acts against the Loyalists. You need to do some reading and pondering, my friend.

 

[jillian]

Uh, Cmike, our Patriots in the War of Independence engaged in terroristic acts against the Loyalists. You need to do some reading and pondering, my friend.

guerilla warfare is not terrorism. terrorists target innocents for political gain. guerilla warfare focuses on strategic targets...which isn't to say there isn't collateral damage. It has to do with the TARGET.

 

[jillian]

Israelis and Palestinians both have a right to their land, and more importantly neither have a right to kill civilians on either side.

When Palestinians lob ineffective missiles blindly into Israel, they are wrong. When Israelis respond by massacreing 700+ Palestinians including hundreds of children, they are considerably more in the wrong. War, terrorism, and murder are inherently immoral acts but there is a degree of morality to proportional response sorely lacking. Both Palestinian terrorists and Israeli soldiers intentionally target innocent civilians, there are no good guys who commit that kind of violence.

Nothing will be solved so long as either side is rewarded for acting atrociously and until the intense and unbridled racism and dehumanization on both sides is overcome by education and compassion. Other nations declaring themselves in firm support of either group when one harbors terrorists and the other harbors war criminals is further destructive to all parties.

Israel doesn't massacre civilians.

The arab terrorists intentionally launch attacks from hospitals, mosques, and schools counting on the fact that Israelis are moral people.

Israelis care more about the palestinian civilians than the palestinians do.

There is a right and wrong.

They know that... they just don't care.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Jillian, the Patriots and Loyalists terrorized each other. Innocents on both sides were terrorized and murdered. The burning of the church with the Patriot families inside it in Patriot was based on a true action led by LTC Banstre Tarleton. And if you think that guerillas engage only the enemy military, you are very naive. If you think General William Sherman's troops weren't terrorizing southern civilians during The March to Savannah, you are very naive. Yes, our troops have at times engaged in terrorism.

 

[The Rabbi]

Jillian, the Patriots and Loyalists terrorized each other. Innocents on both sides were terrorized and murdered. The burning of the church with the Patriot families inside it in Patriot was based on a true action led by LTC Banstre Tarleton. And if you think that guerillas engage only the enemy military, you are very naive. If you think General William Sherman's troops weren't terrorizing southern civilians during The March to Savannah, you are very naive. Yes, our troops have at times engaged in terrorism.

None of that is terrorism. Any more than the Dresden bombing was terrorism.

 

[blu]

fallujah?

 

[jillian]

Jillian, the Patriots and Loyalists terrorized each other. Innocents on both sides were terrorized and murdered. The burning of the church with the Patriot families inside it in Patriot was based on a true action led by LTC Banstre Tarleton. And if you think that guerillas engage only the enemy military, you are very naive. If you think General William Sherman's troops weren't terrorizing southern civilians during The March to Savannah, you are very naive. Yes, our troops have at times engaged in terrorism.

You can't just use words any way you feel like. Words have meanings. Distorting those meanings distorts reality.

No...our troops have NOT engaged in terrorism. Our TARGETS were never innocent people...

I explained this already.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I am not talking about our troops in Afghanistan or Iraq, Jillian. I am merely pointing out that terrorism has been practiced by American military in its history. I am a veteran and know what I am talking about.

Please do not confuse terms the which you obviously do not understand.

 

[Kalam]

Assuming he actually wrote that (and let's not forget your history of lying on this board) what does that have to do with this discussion? Or any??

Ghook seemed eager to start a discussion with me, so I thought that I'd provide him with an opportunity to do so. If you care, ask him yourself. He won't deny writing it.

And i strongly suspect you are not a worthless sand ******.

I may be worthless, but I happen to not be an Arab.

Yep I dropped that little tipbit on on him. If you want to call Jews fans of Hitler than go **** yourself, nothing remains off limits

I assumed, perhaps naively, that you'd be keen enough to figure out that I didn't produce, name, and upload the video myself.

No, Jews don't worship Hitler; he killed "chosen people." Zionists are only interested in slaughtering "infidels."

 

[jillian]

No, Jews don't worship Hitler; he killed "chosen people." Zionists are only interested in slaughtering "infidels."

stop projecting...if that whole "infidel" thing were even half true, arabs in Israel wouldn't have more rights than arabs in any of their own countries.

so stop lying.

 

[Kalam]

The Islamic terrorists hide behind women and children.

The Israelis stand in front of the women and children.

Very, very clear as to who is right.

This notion of IDF conduct tends to be inaccurate outside of their own propaganda posters.

 

[Kalam]

No, Jews don't worship Hitler; he killed "chosen people." Zionists are only interested in slaughtering "infidels."

stop projecting...if that whole "infidel" thing were even half true, arabs in Israel wouldn't have more rights than arabs in any of their own countries.

so stop lying.

It comes as no great surprise to me that you and most of your ilk do little to defend your position outside of making blanket generalizations and unqualified assumptions. Gazans, as a result of the Zionist blockade, hardly have access to basic necessities, much less materials needed to rebuild the infrastructure that the Zionists destroyed in their latest escapade. Please don't attempt to feed me bullshit like that about "rights."

 

[JakeStarkey]

Jillian, the Patriots and Loyalists terrorized each other. Innocents on both sides were terrorized and murdered. The burning of the church with the Patriot families inside it in Patriot was based on a true action led by LTC Banstre Tarleton. And if you think that guerillas engage only the enemy military, you are very naive. If you think General William Sherman's troops weren't terrorizing southern civilians during The March to Savannah, you are very naive. Yes, our troops have at times engaged in terrorism.

None of that is terrorism. Any more than the Dresden bombing was terrorism.

You don't know your history, Rab. Yeah, it was terrorism. If we had lost the war, our Air Force generals would have gone to the gallows for the bombing of Germany and Japan. Don't even think differently, 'cause you would be wrong.