Ron Paul on HR1207 Audit the Federal Reserve Bill

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"On Wednesday, Dr. Paul was interviewed on Judge Napolitano's Freedom Watch concerning HR 1207, Fed secrecy, and the government takeover of healthcare."

Good Interview, well worth the watch (good interview with Daniel Hannan as well) .......

 
"On Wednesday, Dr. Paul was interviewed on Judge Napolitano's Freedom Watch concerning HR 1207, Fed secrecy, and the government takeover of healthcare."

Good Interview, well worth the watch (good interview with Daniel Hannan as well) .......


You guys who talk about government getting too involved with business and them interferring with healthcare and cars and calling it fascism are a joke.

What about when we put Big Oil and Big Defense into the White House and they set our domestic and foreign policies and take us into Iraq and Bush's oil buddies and Cheney's energy/defense buddies get all the no bid contracts?

You are such hypocrites. And Bush's way, we socialize the losses and privatize the profits. I say socialism is much better for the people than that!

But I'm all for taking back the Federal Reserve from the bankers that own it now. Put it back in government's hands.

Is your head exploding Liberty? Yes, you are basically complaining about the biggest business' of them all. THE BANKERS. Insurance, oil, wallstreet, mortgage, lehman, aig, you name it, UBS, they are all the same.

And they aren't even all Americans.

You should watch Freedom to Fascism. They even interview Ron Paul.
 
"On Wednesday, Dr. Paul was interviewed on Judge Napolitano's Freedom Watch concerning HR 1207, Fed secrecy, and the government takeover of healthcare."

Good Interview, well worth the watch (good interview with Daniel Hannan as well) .......


You guys who talk about government getting too involved with business and them interferring with healthcare and cars and calling it fascism are a joke.

What about when we put Big Oil and Big Defense into the White House and they set our domestic and foreign policies and take us into Iraq and Bush's oil buddies and Cheney's energy/defense buddies get all the no bid contracts?

You are such hypocrites. And Bush's way, we socialize the losses and privatize the profits. I say socialism is much better for the people than that!

But I'm all for taking back the Federal Reserve from the bankers that own it now. Put it back in government's hands.

Is your head exploding Liberty? Yes, you are basically complaining about the biggest business' of them all. THE BANKERS. Insurance, oil, wallstreet, mortgage, lehman, aig, you name it, UBS, they are all the same.

And they aren't even all Americans.

You should watch Freedom to Fascism. They even interview Ron Paul.

Did you even bother to watch the interview?
 
"On Wednesday, Dr. Paul was interviewed on Judge Napolitano's Freedom Watch concerning HR 1207, Fed secrecy, and the government takeover of healthcare."

Good Interview, well worth the watch (good interview with Daniel Hannan as well) .......


You guys who talk about government getting too involved with business and them interferring with healthcare and cars and calling it fascism are a joke.

What about when we put Big Oil and Big Defense into the White House and they set our domestic and foreign policies and take us into Iraq and Bush's oil buddies and Cheney's energy/defense buddies get all the no bid contracts?

You are such hypocrites. And Bush's way, we socialize the losses and privatize the profits. I say socialism is much better for the people than that!

But I'm all for taking back the Federal Reserve from the bankers that own it now. Put it back in government's hands.

Is your head exploding Liberty? Yes, you are basically complaining about the biggest business' of them all. THE BANKERS. Insurance, oil, wallstreet, mortgage, lehman, aig, you name it, UBS, they are all the same.

And they aren't even all Americans.

You should watch Freedom to Fascism. They even interview Ron Paul.

Did you even bother to watch the interview?

I can't at work. But I've seen many interviews with Ron Paul. It is the one thing you and I will agree on, only I don't think you understand the bankers/corporations are the problem here, not the Gov.

The Government needs to have control of this. Will they ever completely take back control? Probably not. But Ron Paul at least has the balls to ask for transparency. That's the least they could do.

They gave themselves $2 trillion before Bush went on tv and demanded $750 billion. And won't tell us who they gave the money to. That's because they gave it to foreign banks/themselves.

Henry Ford said, "its good the american people don't understand the banking system, for if they did, there would be a revolution by morning."

And why did CNN Glen Beck roll his eyes at Ron Paul when he interviewed Ron during the GOP primaries? Fox is now trying to paint Beck as a Libertarian. I don't buy it. I seem to be finding a lot of former GOP'ers trying to jump on the Libertarian bandwaggon and I don't think they get it that they are arguing against the bankers/corporations and for giving the government more control over the Federal Reserve. I applaud the ones who get it. But this usually freaks right wingers out when they realize that they are now in favor of government control over private bankers who own us thru our currency.
 
I can't at work.
Then why don't you do the intelligent thing for a change, wait until you actually watch the interview before you start commenting on it, or don't watch it and refrain from posting useless rubbish about things you haven't even seen. :rolleyes:
 
"On Wednesday, Dr. Paul was interviewed on Judge Napolitano's Freedom Watch concerning HR 1207, Fed secrecy, and the government takeover of healthcare."

Good Interview, well worth the watch (good interview with Daniel Hannan as well) .......


You guys who talk about government getting too involved with business and them interferring with healthcare and cars and calling it fascism are a joke.

What about when we put Big Oil and Big Defense into the White House and they set our domestic and foreign policies and take us into Iraq and Bush's oil buddies and Cheney's energy/defense buddies get all the no bid contracts?

You are such hypocrites. And Bush's way, we socialize the losses and privatize the profits. I say socialism is much better for the people than that!

But I'm all for taking back the Federal Reserve from the bankers that own it now. Put it back in government's hands.

Is your head exploding Liberty? Yes, you are basically complaining about the biggest business' of them all. THE BANKERS. Insurance, oil, wallstreet, mortgage, lehman, aig, you name it, UBS, they are all the same.

And they aren't even all Americans.

You should watch Freedom to Fascism. They even interview Ron Paul.

The Federal Reserve NEVER WAS controlled by the government or was ever a branch of it. Woodrow Wilson realized shortly after he gave them the go ahead just how bad of a mistake he'd made...

It was all done in secrecy because this banking cabal knew it was pulling off an illegal heist of the American people's wealth.

It's important to note Woodrow Wilson's realization of what he'd been led to do by the powerful bankers:

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country... Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men.

We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world - no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

- Woodrow Wilson

Federal Reserve - The Federal Reserve is Owned by the International Banking Cabal
 
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I can't at work.
Then why don't you do the intelligent thing for a change, wait until you actually watch the interview before you start commenting on it, or don't watch it and refrain from posting useless rubbish about things you haven't even seen. :rolleyes:

What did he say that I haven't already heard him say. I agree with him. What more do you want from me.

I just want you to realize who the real criminals are here. The bankers own this country, Europe, Australia, Canada, etc.

They're trying to take over the middle east and s. America, hense the wars and the fighting between them and Hugo Chavez.

New World Order.
 
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What did he say that I haven't already heard him say. I agree with him. What more do you want from me.
I guess if you actually take the time to watch it you'll know, but to whet your curiosity he gave an update on the status of HR1207 and what's going on behind the scenes in the halls of congress regarding audit the fed legislation. As a bonus, if you take a bit more time you can listen to Daniel Hannans interview where he provided some very interesting insights into the workings and state of the EP.

I'd just recommend you put your ideological cap aside first and actually listen to what Dr. Paul is saying, remember Dr. Paul was the one that predicted the economic mess we're in now, TWENTY YEARS ago.. so he might just have some credibility on the subject of what we need to do to keep it from getting worse.
 
I'd just recommend you put your ideological cap aside first and actually listen to what Dr. Paul is saying, remember Dr. Paul was the one that predicted the economic mess we're in now, TWENTY YEARS ago.. so he might just have some credibility on the subject of what we need to do to keep it from getting worse.

He can't take that cap off----bats would nest in his skull cavity.
 
What did he say that I haven't already heard him say. I agree with him. What more do you want from me.
I guess if you actually take the time to watch it you'll know, but to whet your curiosity he gave an update on the status of HR1207 and what's going on behind the scenes in the halls of congress regarding audit the fed legislation. As a bonus, if you take a bit more time you can listen to Daniel Hannans interview where he provided some very interesting insights into the workings and state of the EP.

I'd just recommend you put your ideological cap aside first and actually listen to what Dr. Paul is saying, remember Dr. Paul was the one that predicted the economic mess we're in now, TWENTY YEARS ago.. so he might just have some credibility on the subject of what we need to do to keep it from getting worse.

He does have the credibility. And in a way, I also understand where he is coming from when he says do away with the Dept. of Education and all other wasteful bloated beurocracies.

I suggest I don't have an ideological cap. I believe what I believe because I believe it. Not because a party is telling me to believe it. When the libertarians make sense, I admit it.

And you might want to start listening to Thom Hartmann, especially when he has Bernie Sanders on Fridays. They say a lot of the same things. You might find that progressives have a lot in common with Ron Paul. Maybe not "liberals", but Progressives. But because Bernie Sanders has been demonized by the right, I bet you can't stand him.

And liberals/unions have been saying for 30 years that this shit was going to happen.

The conservatives make a lot of sense too. My disgust with the GOP is because they don't practice what they preach. Never have. I suspect thats why a lot of libertarians left the GOP too.
 
I'd just recommend you put your ideological cap aside first and actually listen to what Dr. Paul is saying, remember Dr. Paul was the one that predicted the economic mess we're in now, TWENTY YEARS ago.. so he might just have some credibility on the subject of what we need to do to keep it from getting worse.

He can't take that cap off----bats would nest in his skull cavity.

Have you ever taken your cap off?
 
My disgust with the GOP is because they don't practice what they preach.
My disgust withe GOP is because while they should be the Party of Goldwater they have instead decided to become the Party of Archie Bunker....... screw 'em.
 
My disgust with the GOP is because they don't practice what they preach.
My disgust withe GOP is because while they should be the Party of Goldwater they have instead decided to become the Party of Archie Bunker....... screw 'em.

This is beyond the two parties. Both parties know that this a problem but many/most of them won't admit it. Ron Paul will. Bernie Sanders does.

The fed cannot account for the whereabouts of $9 trillion worth of off-balance sheet transactions over the course of the past eight months. Nor can it explain the $1 trillion expansion of the Fed’s balance sheet since last September.
When pressed by Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL), Coleman said she could not provide any information on those investigations and claimed that she had no authority to look into the practices of the Fed. Instead she said, her job was simply to oversee the Federal Reserve’s Board of Governors. She reiterated that statement in an email to Bloomberg News, who originally broke the story of the gaping holes in the Fed’s balance sheet.
“By law, we are the Office of Inspector General for the Board of Governors only,” the statement said. “Consistent with our authority, we cannot conduct a direct audit of Reserve Bank operations.”
One Penny Sheet » Federal Reserve Cannot Account for $9 Trillion video
 
My disgust with the GOP is because they don't practice what they preach.
My disgust withe GOP is because while they should be the Party of Goldwater they have instead decided to become the Party of Archie Bunker....... screw 'em.

Ron Paul's bill to audit the Fed suffers Senate setback!

Like I said, until more Americans wake up, we will never take this country back. They got people thinking the Dems are the problem or the GOP is the problem when the real problem is the bankers own our country.
 
My disgust with the GOP is because they don't practice what they preach.
My disgust withe GOP is because while they should be the Party of Goldwater they have instead decided to become the Party of Archie Bunker....... screw 'em.

Even Fox News is buying into this "conspiracy theory". That's because they can now blame Obama.

If we start the audit process and Congress has more oversight on what's going on, then we get those checks and balances that are important here at the federal level. But there is too much secrecy to an agency that controls our whole economic destiny in this country.

(NOTICE NOW FOX IS TALKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT GETTING INVOLVED WITH PRIVATE BANKERS. ARE THEY ADMITTING THAT PRIVATE COMPANIES NEED TO BE REGULATED? WHY DON'T THEY JUST LET THE BANKERS DO WHATEVER THEY WANT? LET THE MARKETS DECIDE!)

And, Judge, they have a death grip on our banks right now. The Federal Reserve regulators are tightening the credit, making it difficult for these banks to lend. They're killing commercial real estate development and there's nothing Congress can do about it because we don't really have the authority to audit them.

NAPOLITANO: What is the chance that the bill that now has 250 cosponsors in the House will some day have 51 cosponsors in the Senate?

DEMINT: I don't think we need 51 cosponsors. I think all we need is to get it up for a vote and most senators would be ashamed to vote against it. So, I'm going to keep bringing it up as amendments to different bills and if we can get it on a Senate bill, then it will meet the House side.


NAPOLITANO: Why should the Federal Reserve be audited?

DEMINT: Well, the value of our dollar, our whole economic system, rides on these unelected, secret agency called the Federal Reserve. We're not sure what they're doing right now. And Ron Paul in the House with over half of the House signing up as cosponsors, and me and Bernie Sanders in the Senate are pushing the idea of a complete audit of the Federal Reserve, because frankly, a lot of us here in this country and around the world, are concerned that we're going to destroy the American dollar and the worldwide reserve currency.

If we start the audit process and Congress has more oversight on what's going on, then we get those checks and balances that are important here at the federal level. But there is too much secrecy to an agency that controls our whole economic destiny in this country.

And, Judge, they have a death grip on our banks right now. The Federal Reserve regulators are tightening the credit, making it difficult for these banks to lend. They're killing commercial real estate development and there's nothing Congress can do about it because we don't really have the authority to audit them.
 
"On Wednesday, Dr. Paul was interviewed on Judge Napolitano's Freedom Watch concerning HR 1207, Fed secrecy, and the government takeover of healthcare."

Good Interview, well worth the watch (good interview with Daniel Hannan as well) .......


Thanks for brining attention to this resolution. We need to get the fed some oversight.

However we must make sure we dont get an unitended consequence from this bill, that being the congress ending up in control of monetary policy....that would be even worse than what we have now.
 
"On Wednesday, Dr. Paul was interviewed on Judge Napolitano's Freedom Watch concerning HR 1207, Fed secrecy, and the government takeover of healthcare."

Good Interview, well worth the watch (good interview with Daniel Hannan as well) .......


Thanks for brining attention to this resolution. We need to get the fed some oversight.

However we must make sure we dont get an unitended consequence from this bill, that being the congress ending up in control of monetary policy....that would be even worse than what we have now.

And this is why we will never take back this country. Too many right wingers have been brainwashed to think their own government is the enememy and they think these private bankers, who are not elected, or UNelected, are better.

The Federal Reserve doesn't print coins. I believe the treasury does. Do they have any problem handling this? Bankers would still be appointed to run the reserve, like Greenspan or Bernaeke or Paulson, but the Federal Reserve wouldn't be owned by international bankers, some not even American.

And the government did handle this before the rich bankers bribed them in 1913 to let them handle it. They have done a lousy job. Just look at the debt clock. The more we go into debt, the better it is for the bankers.

Same reason for profits shouldn't be running healthcare.

Or why for profits shouldn't be fighting our wars.
 
I'm not brainwashed, i've learned the govt is my enemy through their behavior over the decades.

Steadily increasing taxes, failing to run social security properly, passing laws like the patriot act, running huge debts (every president other than clinton), lying to us on the campaign trails (just look at how our president now is behaving), inability to even adress our border issues.....the list goes on and on for reasons i dont trust the govt.

You speak as though its a conservative/liberal thing but in reality BOTH parties do nothing but screw us, the people, over at every turn. The only thing they watch out for are their own butts.
 

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