Roger Waters has been forced to cancel a concert in Poland “Allowing Roger Waters, an open supporter of Putin, to play in Poland...would be shameful

[JoeB131]

He is a neo-Marxist left winger from the 60’s who knows nothing about totalitarianism and naively supports the moscow horde and commie- China simply because they’re “anti-west”. A home in Moscow beckons @rogerwaters

please Englishmen show this video to waters´s family

I disagree with his overall position.

But he does have a legitimate point where Zelensky and the west pushed Putin into a position where trying to resolve the Donbass dispute by force seemed like a legitimate option.

Here at the complaints that are valid.

1) That the Minsk accords called for referendum and diplomacy to resolve the status of the Donbass. Zelensky ran on a platform of implementing the Minsk accord, then took a hard line on the Donbass.
2) That when the USSR and Warsaw Pact broke up, NATO promised to not expand further east. Since then, nearly all the former Warsaw pact members have joined NATO, as well as the Baltic states. And now the Ukraine was seriously talking about joining NATO as well, putting NATO troops within striking distance of Moscow.
3) That Ukrainian tariffs on gas and oil flowing through the Ukraine in pipelines was excessive.

All these issues SHOULD have been worked out at the negotiating table, but weren't. And yes, Putin was completely in the wrong for trying to invade to resolve them, and even more in the wrong for continuing the war after his attempt to take Kyiv failed and they've been driven back into a stalemate.

And now Putin's is threatening to use Nukes rather than face defeat.

But let's pick on the Pink Floyd guy for questioning the absurdity of the whole thing.

 

[JoeB131]

Another anti-Western tankie moron

Or someone who lost his own father in a war and doesn't want to see anyone else lose their fathers.. I know what a crazy idea.

 

[Litwin]

But he does have a legitimate point where Zelensky and the west pushed Putin into a position

a Myth , Moscow imperial geography (in 19c terms : rivers , ports, climate etc) pushed pootin into a position

 

[JoeB131]

a Myth , Moscow imperial geography (in 19c terms : rivers , ports, climate etc) pushed pootin into a position

Not really. The real problem is that the USSR didn't break up on ethnic lines, it broke up on the artificial borders of the SSR republics. That left a lot of Russians inside countries that weren't Russia anymore.

The people of the Donbass and Crimea are RUSSIAN, not Ukrainian. Borders should have been renegotiated on that basis.

 

[alexa]

Not really. The real problem is that the USSR didn't break up on ethnic lines, it broke up on the artificial borders of the SSR republics. That left a lot of Russians inside countries that weren't Russia anymore.

The people of the Donbass and Crimea are RUSSIAN, not Ukrainian. Borders should have been renegotiated on that basis.

and having got rid of the PM by a coup who had formed a deal with Russia which offered them money they desperately needed,, they banned the speaking of Russian.

 

[alexa]

Walters gives a strong antiwar left position.

Roger Waters - The War-Profiteering Gangsters Will Kill Us All Unless We Unite Against Them - Brave New Europe

Western media simplifies the conflict in Ukraine in ways that divide us. But what if instead, we chose to unite against those who profit from all wars throughout the world? Roger Waters is a musician [...]

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That he should be put on a Ukranian list to be liquidated because of his political views makes it clear the horror that it is intended to bring to Europe.