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Do you THINK James Boppis a scientist, not only must a ten year old rape victim have the baby she is executer to like it. Fuck @ding’s vision of science.So you don't follow science.
I don't care about him. I'm talking to you. Is a fetus human? Yes or no.Do you THINK James Boppis a scientist, not only must a ten year old rape victim have the baby she is executer to like it. Fuck @ding’s vision of science.
James Bopp - Wikipedia
he also said that they believed she should have had the baby, and "we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child."[6] END2207200538
IF it did not kill her.
Bopp has been presented as a pro-life scientist. he is a political Lawyer right wing hack and Devout Catholic That is some fucked up scientist that you want me to believe.I don't care about him. I'm talking to you. Is a fetus human? Yes or no.
Wrong. The fetus is a separate human being. That's science.Bopp has been presented as a pro-life scientist. he is a political Lawyer right wing hack and Devout Catholic That is some fucked up scientist that you want me to believe.
A fetus is human but not a human “being” yet. .it is a human biological process that all real scientists agree it is a going through many stages of development, The fetus is part of the woman, not a separate being. I don’t need a scientist to confirm that.
Cool as hominem argument. And like all fallacies, it’s petty and unpersuasive.Bopp has been presented as a pro-life scientist. he is a political Lawyer right wing hack and Devout Catholic That is some fucked up scientist that you want me to believe.
It is a living human. What the fuck do you imagine is meant by “being?”A fetus is human but not a human “being” yet.
.it is a human biological process that all real scientists agree it is a going through many stages of development,
The fetus is part of the woman, not a separate being.
I don’t need a scientist to confirm that.
What does Catholic doctrine have to do with science?I refute ( @ding ) your mischaracterization of the alleged science that says a human being is instantly created at conception as it is contained in Catholic doctrine.”
Keith L. Moore, The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2003. pp. 16, 2.“Human life begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm (spermatozoo developmentn) unites with a female gamete or oocyte (ovum) to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marked the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.” “A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo).”
Signorelli et al., Kinases, phosphatases and proteases during sperm capacitation, CELL TISSUE RES. 349(3):765 (Mar. 20, 2012)“Fertilization is the process by which male and female haploid gametes (sperm and egg) unite to produce a genetically distinct individual.”
Keith L. Moore, Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2008. p. 2.“[The zygote], formed by the union of an oocyte and a sperm, is the beginning of a new human being.”
Ronan O’Rahilly and Fabiola Miller, Human Embryology and Teratology, 3rd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 2001. p. 8.“Although life is a continuous process, fertilization… is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new genetically distinct human organism is formed when the chromosomes of the male and female pronuclei blend in the oocyte.”
James Bopp, ed., Human Life and Health Care Ethics, vol. 2 (Frederick, MD: University Publications of America, 1985)“The first cell of a new and unique human life begins existence at the moment of conception (fertilization) when one living sperm from the father joins with one living ovum from the mother. It is in this manner that human life passes from one generation to another. Given the appropriate environment and genetic composition, the single cell subsequently gives rise to trillions of specialized and integrated cells that compose the structures and functions of each individual human body. Every human being alive today and, as far as is known scientifically, every human being that ever existed, began his or her unique existence in this manner, i.e., as one cell. If this first cell or any subsequent configuration of cells perishes, the individual dies, ceasing to exist in matter as a living being. There are no known exceptions to this rule in the field of human biology.”
So now you are calling the process humanness instead of the living being?NTBW: I do not deny the humanness of the living process taking place inside a woman’s body at all. It is human. I refute your mischaracterization of the alleged science that says a human being is instantly created at conception as it is contained in Catholic doctrine. So you are lying on top of a lie.
The Supreme Court apparently disagrees. Because they literally ruled that abortion is not a constitutional right. Which means it's up to legislators to decide. That is the reality of the situation and no amount of arm waving by you will change that.The relationship between a pregnant woman is not a public transaction anything likened to a corral full of slaves being sold on the public square. I contend it is private and involves private health issues and personal private life issues and objectives.
I haven't lied about anything. The only one lying about anything is you when you keep denying that abortion doesn't end a human life. Your denial that abortion doesn't end a human life is an admission that abortion is wrong.You are a liar and are aggressively convincing me that you are a Catholic Taliban set in your ideological disrespect for women and their rights to even privacy and control of their own health.
That's not science, dummy. Science, DNA, the human life cycle, common sense and reality all say it's a new genetically distinct human being that has never existed before and will never exist again.I told you.
I believe Roe v. Wade set precedent at viability outside the womb,’
That’s when a human fetus becomes a human “being” according to the Roe versus Wade ruling. I believe Roe v. Wade set legal precedent at viability outside the womb and that ruling remains legal in the majority of the states in the country as of now I believe.
If a zygote isn't human being in its earliest stage of the human life cycle, what is it?A ZYGOTE is not a human life - it is a living developing human zygote that will become a human life at some point unless the pregnancy is terminated.
At the time of our founding fathers, common law recognized the importance of pregnancy, from infancy.... A zygote....If a zygote isn't human being in its earliest stage of the human life cycle, what is it?
Interestingly, Blackstone also explains that fetuses “in the mother’s womb” are legally considered “to be born.” Thus, the law considered a fetus to be his or her own person, independent of the mother.“For if a woman is quick with child, and by a potion, or otherwise kills it in her womb; or if any one beat her, whereby the child dies in her body, and she is delivered of a dead child; this, though not murder, was by the ancient law homicide or manslaughter. But at present it is not looked upon in quite so atrocious a light, though it remains a very heinous misdemeanor.”
“With consistency, beautiful and undeviating, human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law. In the contemplation of law, life begins when the infant is first able to stir in the womb. By the law, life is protected not only from immediate destruction, but from every degree of actual violence, and, in some cases, from every degree of danger.”
I also told you that Roe is no longer a case having any value as precedent.I told you.
I believe Roe v. Wade set precedent at viability outside the womb,’
That’s when a human fetus becomes a human “being” according to the Roe versus Wade ruling. I believe Roe v. Wade set legal precedent at viability outside the womb and that ruling remains legal in the majority of the states in the country as of now I believe.
NFBW2207220945 the universe in which we beings live has some mystery
NFBW2207211608-#3,783 “The fetus is part of the woman, not a separate being. I don’t need a scientist to confirm that.”
ClaireH220721-#3,786 “Without checking, any medical person who says that a fetus is not a separate life from its mother created his or her own medical certification off a fax machine, but of course they had help.
NFBW: Can you tell me ClaireH or ding or BackAgain or airplanemechanic what an umbilical cord does?
Do you know in your vast scientific and medical knowledge without checking ClaireH why a separate life as you call it is using oxygenated blood produced by an actual living breathing, eating, drinking, peeing, pooping, thinking’ laughing, crying, bitching, loving human being who lives and experiences life in the exact same and entirely magnificent and mysterious universe as all of us posting here on this message board?
Are you a “being” like us ClaireH or are you a “being” living like a fetus temporarily connected to an umbilical cord in a dark wet very small and limited universe called the womb? END2207220945
It attaches one life to another life for a variety of purposes. Hope that helps you..
NFBW: Can you tell me ClaireH or ding or BackAgain or airplanemechanic what an umbilical cord does?
Do you know in your vast scientific and medical knowledge without checking ClaireH why a separate life as you call it is using oxygenated blood produced by an actual living breathing, eating, drinking, peeing, pooping, thinking’ laughing, crying, bitching, loving human being who lives and experiences life in the exact same and entirely magnificent and mysterious universe as all of us posting here on this message board?
The zygote or embryo or fetus in whatever stage of human development is a being like is. Exactly like us but-for the precise stage of development. So your faux question is obviously just a false dichotomy premised on your ignorance and your ongoing. misconceptions and tragic confusion.Are you a “being” like us ClaireH or are you a “being” living like a fetus temporarily connected to an umbilical cord in a dark wet very small and limited universe called the womb? END2207220945
I linked to this web page earlier myself. I don't disagree with their approach in handling it. It's something our current state and federal legislators should take into consideration.At the time of our founding fathers, common law recognized the importance of pregnancy, from infancy.... A zygote....
However, the fetus was not considered another life, another human life, until the baby stirred in the mother's womb, around 19 or 20 weeks gestation....and at that point, terminating a pregnancy, abortion, was considered against the law. Quickening.
One of the most authoritative sources for learning law during the founding era was William Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws of England. Blackstone, a distinguished English jurist, was so well-liked by the founding fathers that he was the second most frequently cited thinker in the American political writings of the founding era. American law students studied his work so religiously that Thomas Jefferson wrote to a friend that “Blackstone is to us what the Koran is to the Muslims.”
Blackstone affirmed in his Commentaries that an individual’s right to life is an “immediate gift of God.” This right to life is legally binding “as soon as an infant is able to stir in the mother’s womb.” Per Blackstone,
Interestingly, Blackstone also explains that fetuses “in the mother’s womb” are legally considered “to be born.” Thus, the law considered a fetus to be his or her own person, independent of the mother.
From these commentaries, the founding fathers learned that any abortion perpetrated after the stirring of an infant in the mother’s womb was a “heinous misdemeanor.”
American courts upheld this traditional common law approach in characterizing abortion as a misdemeanor. Founding father James Wilson, a signatory of the Declaration of Independence and original U.S. Supreme Court justice, taught his law students that,
DNA says otherwise.NFBW2207211608-#3,783 “The fetus is part of the woman, not a separate being. I don’t need a scientist to confirm that.”
