Robbing the Poor to Pay Israel

[P F Tinmore]

Might I join this conversation?

Sure, welcome.

 

[JoeDread]

Let us first ask, at what point did America begin its current downward spiral?
Then lets ask what specific events caused that spiral to begin?
Then lets ask what political ideology fostered and financed those specific events?

1913 was a very important year.
1949 was a very important year.
1964 was a very important year.

 

[georgephillip]

Let us first ask, at what point did America begin its current downward spiral?
Then lets ask what specific events caused that spiral to begin?
Then lets ask what political ideology fostered and financed those specific events?

1913 was a very important year.
1949 was a very important year.
1964 was a very important year.

Just guessing..

1913- Creation of the Federal Reserve?
1949- Israel admitted to UN?
1964- Great Society?

How about 1967? "On June 8, 1967 while patrolling in international waters[2] in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel.[3]"

USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events

 

[JStone]

Let us first ask, at what point did America begin its current downward spiral?
Then lets ask what specific events caused that spiral to begin?
Then lets ask what political ideology fostered and financed those specific events?

1913 was a very important year.
1949 was a very important year.
1964 was a very important year.

Just guessing..

1913- Creation of the Federal Reserve?
1949- Israel admitted to UN?
1964- Great Society?

How about 1967? "On June 8, 1967 while patrolling in international waters[2] in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel.[3]"

USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events

Multiple US commissions concluded the Liberty incident was an accident.

But, your jihadist cohorts in Hizballah murdered 300 US Marines in Beirut. No love for them, freak?

 

[georgephillip]

"Through its illegal 44-year military occupation of the Palestinian West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip

The West Bank was Judaea and Samaria, Jewish land, for 3000 years before Jordan seized the land in 1948 and changed the name to the West Bank.

Jerusalem and Gaza have been Jewish land for 3000 years, as well, since King David conquered the Jebusites and Philistines 3 millenia ago.

Open a history book

Now explain the relevance of 3000 year old mythology to the current illegal 44 year military occupation of Palestine?

Do all people on this planet have the right to take possession of land their ancestors occupied thousands of years ago?

Or does this right apply only to the "Chosen People"?

 

[JStone]

"Through its illegal 44-year military occupation of the Palestinian West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip

The West Bank was Judaea and Samaria, Jewish land, for 3000 years before Jordan seized the land in 1948 and changed the name to the West Bank.

Jerusalem and Gaza have been Jewish land for 3000 years, as well, since King David conquered the Jebusites and Philistines 3 millenia ago.

Open a history book

Now explain the relevance of 3000 year old mythology to the current illegal 44 year military occupation of Palestine?

Do all people on this planet have the right to take possession of land their ancestors occupied thousands of years ago?

Or does this right apply only to the "Chosen People"?

Soooo, the ancient Israel exhibit at the Harvard University Semitic Museum which reconstructed an ancient Israeli society ca 1200 BCE was a hoax? Why, you better get on the horn first thing on Monday to tell them! LOL

Pals' homelands are Arabia and the myriad of Arab countries they emigrated from to sponge off of prosperous Jews in Israel. For this reason, three common Pal surnames are al-Masri [The Egyptian], al-Iraqi [The Iraqi] and Maghrebi [Meghreb, Africa]

 

[georgephillip]

Let us first ask, at what point did America begin its current downward spiral?
Then lets ask what specific events caused that spiral to begin?
Then lets ask what political ideology fostered and financed those specific events?

1913 was a very important year.
1949 was a very important year.
1964 was a very important year.

Just guessing..

1913- Creation of the Federal Reserve?
1949- Israel admitted to UN?
1964- Great Society?

How about 1967? "On June 8, 1967 while patrolling in international waters[2] in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel.[3]"

USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events

Multiple US commissions concluded the Liberty incident was an accident.

But, your jihadist cohorts in Hizballah murdered 300 US Marines in Beirut. No love for them, freak?

Tell it to Liberty's crew.

"After the Israeli fighter aircraft completed their attacks, three Israeli torpedo boats arrived and began a surface attack about 35 minutes after the start of the air attack. The torpedo boats launched a total of five torpedoes, one of which struck the side of USS Liberty, opposite the ship's research spaces. [20] Twenty-six Americans in addition to the eight who had been killed in the earlier air attacks, were killed as a result of this explosion.

"Following their torpedo attack, the torpedo boats moved up and down the length of the ship (both the port and starboard sides), continuing their attack, raking the ship with cannon and machine gun fire.[21] In Malta, crewmen were later assigned the task of counting all of the holes in the ship that were the size of a man's hand or larger. They found a total of 861 such holes, in addition to 'thousands' of .50 caliber machine gun holes.

"Survivors report that the torpedo boat crews swept the decks of USS Liberty with continuous machine gun fire, targeting communications equipment and any crewmembers who ventured above decks.[22]

"Damage control firefighters, who had already risked their lives merely by appearing on deck, had to abandon their efforts because their fire hoses had been shredded by machine gun fire.[23]

"Survivors also report that the torpedo boat crews fired on the inflated life boats launched by the crew after the captain gave the order 'prepare to abandon ship.'[24] This order had to be rescinded because the crew was unable to stand on the main deck without being fired upon and the life rafts were destroyed as they were launched.[25]"

USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events

 

[JStone]

Just guessing..

1913- Creation of the Federal Reserve?
1949- Israel admitted to UN?
1964- Great Society?

How about 1967? "On June 8, 1967 while patrolling in international waters[2] in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel.[3]"

USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events

Multiple US commissions concluded the Liberty incident was an accident.

But, your jihadist cohorts in Hizballah murdered 300 US Marines in Beirut. No love for them, freak?

Tell it to Liberty's crew.

"After the Israeli fighter aircraft completed their attacks, three Israeli torpedo boats arrived and began a surface attack about 35 minutes after the start of the air attack. The torpedo boats launched a total of five torpedoes, one of which struck the side of USS Liberty, opposite the ship's research spaces. [20] Twenty-six Americans in addition to the eight who had been killed in the earlier air attacks, were killed as a result of this explosion.

"Following their torpedo attack, the torpedo boats moved up and down the length of the ship (both the port and starboard sides), continuing their attack, raking the ship with cannon and machine gun fire.[21] In Malta, crewmen were later assigned the task of counting all of the holes in the ship that were the size of a man's hand or larger. They found a total of 861 such holes, in addition to 'thousands' of .50 caliber machine gun holes.

"Survivors report that the torpedo boat crews swept the decks of USS Liberty with continuous machine gun fire, targeting communications equipment and any crewmembers who ventured above decks.[22]

"Damage control firefighters, who had already risked their lives merely by appearing on deck, had to abandon their efforts because their fire hoses had been shredded by machine gun fire.[23]

"Survivors also report that the torpedo boat crews fired on the inflated life boats launched by the crew after the captain gave the order 'prepare to abandon ship.'[24] This order had to be rescinded because the crew was unable to stand on the main deck without being fired upon and the life rafts were destroyed as they were launched.[25]"

USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events

Tell it to the multiple US commissions that concluded the incident was an accident

C.I.A. report June 13, 1967 No malice; attack a mistake
U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry June 18, 1967 Mistaken identity
Report by Clark Clifford July 18, 1967 No evidence ship was known to be American
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence 1979/1981 No merit to claims attack was intentional
National Security Agency 1981 Mistaken identity
House Armed Services Committee 1991/1992 No support for claims attack was intentional
USS Liberty

Can you show us links to your posts condemning Hizballah for slaughtering 300 Marines in Beirut? No, I didn't think so jihadist.

 

[JoeDread]

Multiple US commissions concluded the Liberty incident was an accident.

Is that a fact?

Please explain why in America there is only one memorial dedicated to the Liberty and her crew. If no crime was committed, if indeed the attack was an accident, why the stanch resistance to memorial sites?

The Wisconsin Library Wars

"The village of Grafton, Wisconsin, chose to honor the USS Liberty by naming its new library after the ship. The complaints that followed filled the local newspapers and airwaves for months. This is the story of the USS Liberty Memorial Public Library and the controversy that followed."


Read more at: The Wisconsin Library Wars, by James Ennes

I have yet to acquire the needed posts (15) to include live links, I ask that others do the required research and post the appropriate links to the Grafton library story, thank you.

 

[JStone]

Multiple US commissions concluded the Liberty incident was an accident.

Is that a fact?

Please explain why in America there is only one memorial dedicated to the Liberty and her crew. If no crime was committed, if indeed the attack was an accident, why the stanch resistance to memorial sites?

How many memorials to the 300 Marines massacred by Muslims in Beirut?

 

[georgephillip]

Multiple US commissions concluded the Liberty incident was an accident.

Is that a fact?

Please explain why in America there is only one memorial dedicated to the Liberty and her crew. If no crime was committed, if indeed the attack was an accident, why the stanch resistance to memorial sites?

The Wisconsin Library Wars

"The village of Grafton, Wisconsin, chose to honor the USS Liberty by naming its new library after the ship. The complaints that followed filled the local newspapers and airwaves for months. This is the story of the USS Liberty Memorial Public Library and the controversy that followed."


Read more at: The Wisconsin Library Wars, by James Ennes

I have yet to acquire the needed posts (15) to include live links, I ask that others do the required research and post the appropriate links to the Grafton library story, thank you.

The Great Wisconsin Library Wars

The Captain of Liberty won the Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions on June 8, 1967.

Anyone know if the CMH is ever awarded for "friendly fire" incidents?

 

[JStone]

Multiple US commissions concluded the Liberty incident was an accident.

Is that a fact?

Please explain why in America there is only one memorial dedicated to the Liberty and her crew. If no crime was committed, if indeed the attack was an accident, why the stanch resistance to memorial sites?

The Wisconsin Library Wars

"The village of Grafton, Wisconsin, chose to honor the USS Liberty by naming its new library after the ship. The complaints that followed filled the local newspapers and airwaves for months. This is the story of the USS Liberty Memorial Public Library and the controversy that followed."


Read more at: The Wisconsin Library Wars, by James Ennes

I have yet to acquire the needed posts (15) to include live links, I ask that others do the required research and post the appropriate links to the Grafton library story, thank you.

The Great Wisconsin Library Wars

The Captain of Liberty won the Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions on June 8, 1967.

Anyone know if the CMH is ever awarded for "friendly fire" incidents?

No medals for the 300 Marines murdered by your fellow jihadists in Beirut. Pity.

 

[JoeDread]

How many memorials to the 300 Marines massacred by Muslims in Beirut?

You ask an interesting question, perhaps we need to take a closer look at the events that surround the Beirut incident as opposed to those that surround the Liberty.

 

[georgephillip]

Is that a fact?

Please explain why in America there is only one memorial dedicated to the Liberty and her crew. If no crime was committed, if indeed the attack was an accident, why the stanch resistance to memorial sites?

The Wisconsin Library Wars

"The village of Grafton, Wisconsin, chose to honor the USS Liberty by naming its new library after the ship. The complaints that followed filled the local newspapers and airwaves for months. This is the story of the USS Liberty Memorial Public Library and the controversy that followed."


Read more at: The Wisconsin Library Wars, by James Ennes

I have yet to acquire the needed posts (15) to include live links, I ask that others do the required research and post the appropriate links to the Grafton library story, thank you.

The Great Wisconsin Library Wars

The Captain of Liberty won the Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions on June 8, 1967.

Anyone know if the CMH is ever awarded for "friendly fire" incidents?

No medals for the 300 Marines murdered by your fellow jihadists in Beirut. Pity.

Those Marines would not have been in Beirut if Israel had not invaded Lebanon.
How much money did vulture capitalists make from Operation Peace for Galilee?
More than those Marines did.

 

[JStone]

The Great Wisconsin Library Wars

The Captain of Liberty won the Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions on June 8, 1967.

Anyone know if the CMH is ever awarded for "friendly fire" incidents?

No medals for the 300 Marines murdered by your fellow jihadists in Beirut. Pity.

Those Marines would not have been in Beirut if Israel had not invaded Lebanon.
How much money did vulture capitalists make from Operation Peace for Galilee?
More than those Marines did.

The US went to Beirut as part of the UN contingent to end the Lebanese civil war.

You justify the massacre of 300 Marines by your fellow jihadists, you scumbag?

 

[JoeDread]

Well, look what a little research found, come to find out there are multiple memorials in America that are dedicated to the Beirut incident.

Many States in the USA also have State Monuments:

Pennsylvania (at Penn's Landing in Philadelphia - photo to come soon)
Florida (just dedicated a monument in 1996)
Many more states also (photos will be solicited and placed here)

beirut-memorial.org/monument/index.html (Please add the hyper prefix)

I did a small search to reference medals and/or honors granted posthumously to those who were killed, I found little beyond the standard Purple Heart award.

 

[JStone]

Well, look what a little research found, come to find out there are multiple memorials in America that are dedicated to the Beirut incident.

Many States in the USA also have State Monuments:

Pennsylvania (at Penn's Landing in Philadelphia - photo to come soon)
Florida (just dedicated a monument in 1996)
Many more states also (photos will be solicited and placed here)

beirut-memorial.org/monument/index.html (Please add the hyper prefix)

I did a small search to reference medals and/or honors granted posthumously to those who were killed, I found little beyond the standard Purple Heart award.

Good fetching, dog. Here's a bone

 

[docmauser1]

The Captain of Liberty won the Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions on June 8, 1967.Anyone know if the CMH is ever awarded for "friendly fire" incidents?

Ah! Looks like an acknowledgement that jihad flagtub was engaged in unsavory activity.

 

[JoeDread]

Good fetching, dog. Here's a bone

Perhaps I have misinterpreted the purpose and the lack of intelligence of some of the the members of this board.

The respect of an intelligent person can be earned by schooling him in matters where he lacks, conversely, trying to enlighten a fool will bring only hatred and contempt.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Two-thirds of the $50 billion in US foreign aid goes to the Muzzies and Arab sand rats, including Pakistan which protected bin Laden.

Allahu fucku

Links?

"One-third of ALL US AID
goes to Israel and Egypt.

"These 2 countries receive
one-third of the total
aid, the majority of which
pays for armaments.
Yet, neither is a 'developing' country."

U.S. Foreign Aid Summary

Go fetch the link, yourself. Two-thirds of the current FY US foreign aid budget is earmarked for the Muslim and Arab countries.

Israel gets $3B plus.
Egypt gets $2B to benefit Israel.
Jordan gets $2B to benefit Israel.
Lebanon gets millions to benefit Israel.
The Palestinian Authority gets hundreds of millions to benefit Israel.