Rightist Support of Police

[Pilate]

Holy shit, if a mob comes to my house and I get my gun ready then I’m the domestic terrorist?

According to Democrats...and perhaps you. Libs are arresting legally gun-owning home-owners for just HOLDING their legal firearms and defending their own home and lives on the own property...then ordering the search and seizure of their homes to confiscate their legally owned weapons. Of course you already knew that.

You do realize that the arrests are made by cops, right? Are the cops, “libs” now?

 

[Pilate]

And if the higher ups told the cops to go to your house and take your guns they wouldn’t be considered partly responsible? You realize that the reason these crappy laws have power is because of the people enforcing them, right?

Bwuhahahaha....passing the buck again, always trying to protect Socialist Liberal politicians by blaming someone else. So you want police to become as anti-government as you, to disobey their bosses? Policeman trying to support their families don't have the luxury to buck the system and disobey their bosses, as you make it sound so easy to do.

There it is again, folks. “I was just following orders!”

 

[easyt65]

Finally, what the fuck is a reasonable gun owner? Someone who thinks the 2A is out of date or meant only for hunting?

A law-abiding home-owning American citizen. In the case of McLoskeys, there is a 'Stand Your Ground' law and CCP and other pro-gun rights laws, not to mention this domestic terrorist mob broke into their housing area, trespassed onto their property, and threatened them and their home.

According to Joe Biden - he gave the advice that if someone trespasses on your property you can just step outside onto your balcony and fire your weapon up in the air to scare them off. He also said if someone is trying to get into your home you can just fire your weapon through the door. Of course, following dementia Joe's advice will definitely land you in jail.

 

[easyt65]

Holy shit, if a mob comes to my house and I get my gun ready then I’m the domestic terrorist?

According to Democrats...and perhaps you. Libs are arresting legally gun-owning home-owners for just HOLDING their legal firearms and defending their own home and lives on the own property...then ordering the search and seizure of their homes to confiscate their legally owned weapons. Of course you already knew that.

You do realize that the arrests are made by cops, right? Are the cops, “libs” now?

You do know the McCloskeys were arrested after the Libtard DA / Prosecutor personally charged them with a crime, and the Police had no choice but to carry out their duties / orders, right?

ONCE AGAIN you are trying to pass the buck to protect another Democrat, attempting to villainize the police. .

 

[Pilate]

Finally, what the fuck is a reasonable gun owner? Someone who thinks the 2A is out of date or meant only for hunting?

A law-abiding home-owning American citizen. In the case of McLoskeys, there is a 'Stand Your Ground' law and CCP and other pro-gun rights laws, not to mention this domestic terrorist mob broke into their housing area, trespassed onto their property, and threatened them and their home.

According to Joe Biden - he gave the advice that if someone trespasses on your property you can just step outside onto your balcony and fire your weapon up in the air to scare them off. He also said if someone is trying to get into your home you can just fire your weapon through the door. Of course, following dementia Joe's advice will definitely land you in jail.

Do you know what happened to the McCloskeys? Wait for it...POLICE OFFICERS came to their house, took their guns away, and arrested them. On what planet is that right? Who would think that’s right? Unless the cops were totally brain dead, they knew that they were doing the wrong thing when they went to deprive the McCloskeys of their rights and liberties.

 

[Pilate]

Holy shit, if a mob comes to my house and I get my gun ready then I’m the domestic terrorist?

According to Democrats...and perhaps you. Libs are arresting legally gun-owning home-owners for just HOLDING their legal firearms and defending their own home and lives on the own property...then ordering the search and seizure of their homes to confiscate their legally owned weapons. Of course you already knew that.

You do realize that the arrests are made by cops, right? Are the cops, “libs” now?

You do know the McCloskeys were arrested after the Libtard DA / Prosecutor personally charged them with a crime, and the Police had no choice but to carry out their duties / orders, right?

ONCE AGAIN you are trying to pass the buck to protect another Democrat, attempting to villainize the police. .

They had a choice. We all have a choice. It’s a hard one, undoubtedly. But there is a choice. “I was just following orders” doesn’t cut it. The orders in question were so wrongful, and so out of line than any sane person should have known that to go along with them would be very very wrong.

 

[irosie91]

Yeah dude, I’m sure those cases I listed in my OP were set up by George Soros and the chicoms. I’m sure George Soros and the Chinese have such a vested interest in seeing people own guns and defend their property.

The connection between Soros / China and the domestic terrorists has already been established / proven. And you seriously think our enemies would not like to see Americans dis-armed?!

'Nuff said.

Holy shit, if a mob comes to my house and I get my gun ready then I’m the domestic terrorist? If I set a booby trap for burglars who law enforcement has failed to catch them I’m the domestic terrorist? You are an idiot.

depends on the laws in your state and availability of other modalities-----like security cameras

 

[WTH_Progs?]

I’d like to challenge the idea that many right wingers have that motivate them to support the police. I myself used to be a right winger, now I don’t really feel like I fit in on any political compass. I’d like to show that...
1. The police are not there to help you.
2. The police will harm you.

Starting with the first, there are numerous Supreme Court rulings all of which have stated that the police do not have an obligation to protect you if you’re in danger. And secondly, consider the following cases:
1. In 1999, after local law enforcement failed to catch a burglar who had burglarized the same home several times, the homeowner set a shotgun trap which wounded the thief, resulting in him being caught. The homeowner was promptly jailed for 6 months and fined $10,000. Yes, the judge was obviously culpable in this case, but the judge himself doesn’t do the legwork. It’s the cops.
2. After a mob formed outside his home, shouting at the homeowner in question over a yard sign and blasting loud music, the homeowner, without leaving his home fetched his rifle. The police arrived...and the homeowner was arrested for brandishing. No judges here, this was simply the police acting of their own accord.
3. It is a matter of fact that the police have stood down in many cities and simply watched as rioters destroyed innocent people’s entire livelihoods. Their defense? They were just following orders. The age old defense of war criminals.
4. Finally, when it comes to gun grabs, you know who actually grabs guns? It’s not the, “libtards” or, “demonrats.” It’s the police. They’re the ones who literally knock on your door over a bogus and unconstitutional red flag seizure and take your gun away. The authoritarians give the marching orders, and the cops? They don’t care about you. They’ll do as they’re told.

Ultimately, I encourage many people on this site to reconsider their support for police. Remember, unless you live in a city which has abolished the 2A, then you are more than capable of keeping yourself safe from danger. It is the cops who serve authoritarian bureaucrats who will deprive you of that capability.

I think you're full of shit.

 

[irosie91]

Finally, what the fuck is a reasonable gun owner? Someone who thinks the 2A is out of date or meant only for hunting?

A law-abiding home-owning American citizen. In the case of McLoskeys, there is a 'Stand Your Ground' law and CCP and other pro-gun rights laws, not to mention this domestic terrorist mob broke into their housing area, trespassed onto their property, and threatened them and their home.

According to Joe Biden - he gave the advice that if someone trespasses on your property you can just step outside onto your balcony and fire your weapon up in the air to scare them off. He also said if someone is trying to get into your home you can just fire your weapon through the door. Of course, following dementia Joe's advice will definitely land you in jail.

Do you know what happened to the McCloskeys? Wait for it...POLICE OFFICERS came to their house, took their guns away, and arrested them. On what planet is that right? Who would think that’s right? Unless the cops were totally brain dead, they knew that they were doing the wrong thing when they went to deprive the McCloskeys of their rights and liberties.

what happened to them so far? ----I mean in
court?

 

[easyt65]

There it is again, folks. “I was just following orders!”

Yeah, that's what happens in the military, in the police, etc... I understand anarchists do not believe in orders, structure, discipline, and believe you should be able to do whatever the hell your FEELING tell you...and you have made it perfectly clear ou hate the police and will blame them in defense of the Democrat politicians who make the laws, order them to be carried out against OTHERS, and who have been and still are facilitating the violence.

 

[Pilate]

Yeah dude, I’m sure those cases I listed in my OP were set up by George Soros and the chicoms. I’m sure George Soros and the Chinese have such a vested interest in seeing people own guns and defend their property.

The connection between Soros / China and the domestic terrorists has already been established / proven. And you seriously think our enemies would not like to see Americans dis-armed?!

'Nuff said.

Holy shit, if a mob comes to my house and I get my gun ready then I’m the domestic terrorist? If I set a booby trap for burglars who law enforcement has failed to catch them I’m the domestic terrorist? You are an idiot.

depends on the laws in your state and availability of other modalities-----like security cameras

The case I listed was in 1999, in a rural area. CCTV wasn’t THAT common yet, nor was it feasible for the person in question since I’m fairly sure he didn’t live there regularly, so paying full time electric bills would be silly. Nevermind the fact that in 1999, for him to view the CCTV, he’d have to get the tapes from in the house. A burglar could have just taken them. Finally, who cares? If the burglar didn’t try to break in, he’d have been fine. It’s as simple as that.

 

[Pilate]

Finally, what the fuck is a reasonable gun owner? Someone who thinks the 2A is out of date or meant only for hunting?

A law-abiding home-owning American citizen. In the case of McLoskeys, there is a 'Stand Your Ground' law and CCP and other pro-gun rights laws, not to mention this domestic terrorist mob broke into their housing area, trespassed onto their property, and threatened them and their home.

According to Joe Biden - he gave the advice that if someone trespasses on your property you can just step outside onto your balcony and fire your weapon up in the air to scare them off. He also said if someone is trying to get into your home you can just fire your weapon through the door. Of course, following dementia Joe's advice will definitely land you in jail.

Do you know what happened to the McCloskeys? Wait for it...POLICE OFFICERS came to their house, took their guns away, and arrested them. On what planet is that right? Who would think that’s right? Unless the cops were totally brain dead, they knew that they were doing the wrong thing when they went to deprive the McCloskeys of their rights and liberties.

what happened to them so far? ----I mean in
court?

Nothing because they got a pardon from either the governor or the president.

 

[easyt65]

There it is again, folks. “I was just following orders!”

For the record, the police balked at the order to arrest the McCloskeys at 1st but were forced to....

St. Louis prosecutor to detective on McCloskey case: 'I suggest you quickly reassess this evidence'

Documents show lead detective initially refused to sign documents prosecutors wrote about the case

www.ksdk.com

"Documents show lead detective initially refused to sign documents prosecutors wrote about the case"

 

[Pilate]

There it is again, folks. “I was just following orders!”

Yeah, that's what happens in the military, in the police, etc... I understand anarchists do not believe in orders, structure, discipline, and believe you should be able to do whatever the hell your FEELING tell you...and you have made it perfectly clear ou hate the police and will blame them in defense of the Democrat politicians who make the laws, order them to be carried out against OTHERS, and who have been and still are facilitating the violence.

I’m in the military and I can tell you that since 1945 most armies have added clauses that allow soldiers to refuse unlawful orders. In fact, it’s part of the oath we take. If I got ordered to go to someone’s house and deprive them of their rights, I pray that I’d have the courage needed to do the right thing and say no. Fortunately, my superiors are not fucking maniacs who give out such orders, and I trust that my line leaders would also not go along with such wrongful orders from on high. There are no excuses. What’s wrong is wrong.

 

[Pilate]

There it is again, folks. “I was just following orders!”

For the record, the police balked at the order to arrest the McCloskeys at 1st but were forced to....

St. Louis prosecutor to detective on McCloskey case: 'I suggest you quickly reassess this evidence'

Documents show lead detective initially refused to sign documents prosecutors wrote about the case

www.ksdk.com

"Documents show lead detective initially refused to sign documents prosecutors wrote about the case"

Good...but it says the he did eventually cave. Kudos to him, though. He actually showed some courage. Some little part of him knew it was wrong.

 

[easyt65]

Nothing because they got a pardon from either the governor or the president.

You sure talk a lot of shit for a completely ignorant person....

"Their hearings Monday were postponed until Oct. 6. The cases are expected to be heard by a St. Louis grand jury that will decide whether there is sufficient probable cause for an indictment. Most cases in St. Louis Circuit Court go to a grand jury instead of a preliminary hearing."

McCloskeys make first court appearance in St. Louis gun case

A grand jury is expected to hear evidence in the case involving the McCloskeys, who brandished weapons in June as protesters marched past their home.

www.stltoday.com

That last bullshit comment, declared as if FACT yet a complete and utter lie, has convinced me there is no more reason to talk to you since you have no clue what you are taking about. Thanks, cop-hating lil' anarchist.

 

[easyt65]

There it is again, folks. “I was just following orders!”

Yeah, that's what happens in the military, in the police, etc... I understand anarchists do not believe in orders, structure, discipline, and believe you should be able to do whatever the hell your FEELING tell you...and you have made it perfectly clear ou hate the police and will blame them in defense of the Democrat politicians who make the laws, order them to be carried out against OTHERS, and who have been and still are facilitating the violence.

I’m in the military and I can tell you that since 1945 most armies have added clauses that allow soldiers to refuse unlawful orders. In fact, it’s part of the oath we take. If I got ordered to go to someone’s house and deprive them of their rights, I pray that I’d have the courage needed to do the right thing and say no. Fortunately, my superiors are not fucking maniacs who give out such orders, and I trust that my line leaders would also not go along with such wrongful orders from on high. There are no excuses. What’s wrong is wrong.

When a DA / Prosecutor orders a policeman to arrest someone they have charged with a crime, you do your job and let the system take its course. Cops don't get to override Democrat DAs / Prosecutors, Mayors, etc...

Again, you talk a lot of shit, that's about all.

 

[Pilate]

Nothing because they got a pardon from either the governor or the president.

You sure talk a lot of shit for a completely ignorant person....

"Their hearings Monday were postponed until Oct. 6. The cases are expected to be heard by a St. Louis grand jury that will decide whether there is sufficient probable cause for an indictment. Most cases in St. Louis Circuit Court go to a grand jury instead of a preliminary hearing."

McCloskeys make first court appearance in St. Louis gun case

A grand jury is expected to hear evidence in the case involving the McCloskeys, who brandished weapons in June as protesters marched past their home.

www.stltoday.com

That last bullshit comment, declared as if FACT yet a complete and utter lie, has convinced me there is no more reason to talk to you since you have no clue what you are taking about. Thanks, cop-hating lil' anarchist.

Missouri Gov. Parson to pardon McCloskeys 'without a doubt,' saying prosecutor's actions 'defy common sense' | Fox News

Missouri Gov. Mike Parson told "Hannity" on Monday that "without a doubt," he will pardon Mark and Patricia McCloskey, hours after St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kimberly Gardner filed felony charges against them.

www.foxnews.com

Also, correction, it’s the UCMJ that uses the phrase lawful order.

 

[Pilate]

There it is again, folks. “I was just following orders!”

Yeah, that's what happens in the military, in the police, etc... I understand anarchists do not believe in orders, structure, discipline, and believe you should be able to do whatever the hell your FEELING tell you...and you have made it perfectly clear ou hate the police and will blame them in defense of the Democrat politicians who make the laws, order them to be carried out against OTHERS, and who have been and still are facilitating the violence.

I’m in the military and I can tell you that since 1945 most armies have added clauses that allow soldiers to refuse unlawful orders. In fact, it’s part of the oath we take. If I got ordered to go to someone’s house and deprive them of their rights, I pray that I’d have the courage needed to do the right thing and say no. Fortunately, my superiors are not fucking maniacs who give out such orders, and I trust that my line leaders would also not go along with such wrongful orders from on high. There are no excuses. What’s wrong is wrong.

When a DA / Prosecutor orders a policeman to arrest someone they have charged with a crime, you do your job and let the system take its course. Cops don't get to override Democrat DAs / Prosecutors, Mayors, etc...

Again, you talk a lot of shit, that's about all.

You don’t even talk a lot of shit. You just roll over like a good little doggie. The system? You trust the system? The one that you yourself claim is controlled by Democrats who support communists and terrorism and whatever else?

 

[DrLove]

I'm left center and support my local police 100%. What I do NOT trust are Donald Trump and Billy Barr's SECRET Police.