Right-Wing Operatives Plead Guilty in Voter-Suppression Scheme

[Magnus]

Two right-wing political operatives have pleaded guilty in Ohio to a telecommunications fraud charge for arranging thousands of robocalls that falsely claimed that the information voters included with mail ballots could be used by law enforcement and debt collectors, prosecutors said.

The recorded messages “falsely warned people that if they voted by mail that their information could be used by law enforcement, collection agencies” and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention “for the purposes of pursuing old warrants, collecting outstanding debts, and tracking people for mandatory vaccines,” Mr. O’Malley’s office said.

The Ohio attorney general, Dave Yost, whose office investigated the calls, said in a statement on Monday that Mr. Wohl and Mr. Burkman had been trying to suppress voting in minority neighborhoods.

Mr. Wohl and Mr. Burkman face similar charges in Michigan, where they were charged in 2020 with intimidating voters, conspiracy to intimidate voters, using a computer to intimidate voters and conspiracy to use a computer to intimidate voters, according to a criminal complaint.

The allegations against the two operatives came at a time when Donald J. Trump, as president, was seeking to discredit mail-in voting, saying without offering evidence that it was rife with fraud. At the time, millions of voters were expected to vote by mail because of the pandemic.

Right-Wing Operatives Plead Guilty in Voter-Suppression Scheme (Published 2022)

Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman arranged thousands of robocalls that prosecutors said were intended to discourage residents of minority neighborhoods from voting by mail in 2020.

www.nytimes.com

 

[johngaltshrugged]

Two right-wing political operatives have pleaded guilty in Ohio to a telecommunications fraud charge for arranging thousands of robocalls that falsely claimed that the information voters included with mail ballots could be used by law enforcement and debt collectors, prosecutors said.

The recorded messages “falsely warned people that if they voted by mail that their information could be used by law enforcement, collection agencies” and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention “for the purposes of pursuing old warrants, collecting outstanding debts, and tracking people for mandatory vaccines,” Mr. O’Malley’s office said.

The Ohio attorney general, Dave Yost, whose office investigated the calls, said in a statement on Monday that Mr. Wohl and Mr. Burkman had been trying to suppress voting in minority neighborhoods.

Mr. Wohl and Mr. Burkman face similar charges in Michigan, where they were charged in 2020 with intimidating voters, conspiracy to intimidate voters, using a computer to intimidate voters and conspiracy to use a computer to intimidate voters, according to a criminal complaint.

The allegations against the two operatives came at a time when Donald J. Trump, as president, was seeking to discredit mail-in voting, saying without offering evidence that it was rife with fraud. At the time, millions of voters were expected to vote by mail because of the pandemic.

Right-Wing Operatives Plead Guilty in Voter-Suppression Scheme (Published 2022)

Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman arranged thousands of robocalls that prosecutors said were intended to discourage residents of minority neighborhoods from voting by mail in 2020.

www.nytimes.com

Did they tell them they weren't allowed to vote at all?
No, it seems they were encouraging them to just vote in person rather than by mail which is known as an easy way to cheat.
Maybe they shouldn't sent out the robocalls but claiming this is suppressing voters is disingenuous when they could still vote the right way, in person with a valid ID

 

[Yarddog]

The best way to fight voter suppression. is to mark your calendar, see what is voting day... If you don't have a ride, get one from a neighbor, friend or family member who is going also to vote and go down in person and cast your ballot. In person.

 

[Meister]

Thread closed, already a thread on this very topic in the politics forum

 

[flacaltenn]

I'm re-opening this version of the story because about the time that Meister closed it -- the "other" thread went to Badlands. Also including another non-paywalled link that MisterBeale found that is a good summary of the NYTimes article below.

Right-Wing Operatives Plead Guilty in Voter-Suppression Scheme (Published 2022)

Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman arranged thousands of robocalls that prosecutors said were intended to discourage residents of minority neighborhoods from voting by mail in 2020.

www.nytimes.com

 

[MisterBeale]

Right-Wing Operatives Plead Guilty in Voter-Suppression Scheme

 

[Magnus]

Did they tell them they weren't allowed to vote at all?
No, it seems they were encouraging them to just vote in person rather than by mail which is known as an easy way to cheat.
Maybe they shouldn't sent out the robocalls but claiming this is suppressing voters is disingenuous when they could still vote the right way, in person with a valid ID

LOL What part of this, did you not get?

Two right-wing political operatives have pleaded guilty in Ohio to a telecommunications fraud charge for arranging thousands of robocalls that falsely claimed that the information voters included with mail ballots could be used by law enforcement and debt collectors, prosecutors said.

 

[OKTexas]

Two right-wing political operatives have pleaded guilty in Ohio to a telecommunications fraud charge for arranging thousands of robocalls that falsely claimed that the information voters included with mail ballots could be used by law enforcement and debt collectors, prosecutors said.

The recorded messages “falsely warned people that if they voted by mail that their information could be used by law enforcement, collection agencies” and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention “for the purposes of pursuing old warrants, collecting outstanding debts, and tracking people for mandatory vaccines,” Mr. O’Malley’s office said.

The Ohio attorney general, Dave Yost, whose office investigated the calls, said in a statement on Monday that Mr. Wohl and Mr. Burkman had been trying to suppress voting in minority neighborhoods.

Mr. Wohl and Mr. Burkman face similar charges in Michigan, where they were charged in 2020 with intimidating voters, conspiracy to intimidate voters, using a computer to intimidate voters and conspiracy to use a computer to intimidate voters, according to a criminal complaint.

The allegations against the two operatives came at a time when Donald J. Trump, as president, was seeking to discredit mail-in voting, saying without offering evidence that it was rife with fraud. At the time, millions of voters were expected to vote by mail because of the pandemic.

Right-Wing Operatives Plead Guilty in Voter-Suppression Scheme (Published 2022)

Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman arranged thousands of robocalls that prosecutors said were intended to discourage residents of minority neighborhoods from voting by mail in 2020.

www.nytimes.com

I don't get it. Lists of people who were sent mail in ballots are publicly available, how do you think ballot harvesters know where to find them? If ballot harvesters can get the lists with current addresses, why couldn't law enforcement or debt collectors? The only stretch I'm seeing is the one about the CDC.

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[Magnus]

I don't get it. Lists of people who were sent mail in ballots are publicly available, how do you think ballot harvesters know where to find them? If ballot harvesters can get the lists with current addresses, why couldn't law enforcement or debt collectors? The only stretch I'm seeing is the one about the CDC.

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Yeah, we know. You don't get it. Read it a few times and then when you are done, read it a couple more times. You will eventually get it.

Good luck.

 

[j-mac]

Shame on them....What will they get? a fine? No different really than some of the Democrat phone campaigns...

 

[jc456]

Yeah, we know. You don't get it. Read it a few times and then when you are done, read it a couple more times. You will eventually get it.

Good luck.

Telecommunications fine?

 

[Magnus]

Telecommunications fine?

Mr. Gutierrez said that the count that the two men pleaded guilty to covered the calls that were made to voters in Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland. They face up to a year in prison and a fine of $2,500 when they are sentenced on Nov. 29, he said.

 

[OKTexas]

Yeah, we know. You don't get it. Read it a few times and then when you are done, read it a couple more times. You will eventually get it.

Good luck.

So you can't actually address what I said, got it!!!!!

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[jc456]

Mr. Gutierrez said that the count that the two men pleaded guilty to covered the calls that were made to voters in Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland. They face up to a year in prison and a fine of $2,500 when they are sentenced on Nov. 29, he said.

Telecommunications not election fraud

 

[Magnus]

So you can't actually address what I said, got it!!!!!

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Say something intelligent and I will. Good luck.

 

[MagicMike]

The best way to fight voter suppression. is to mark your calendar, see what is voting day... If you don't have a ride, get one from a neighbor, friend or family member who is going also to vote and go down in person and cast your ballot. In person.

Why is this the "best" way?

 

[Yarddog]

Why is this the "best" way?

everyone take personal responsibility for their own vote? if they go down to vote, no one is going to stop them. A mailed in ballot has some chance of being intercepted somehow.

 

[Dragonlady]

Did they tell them they weren't allowed to vote at all?
No, it seems they were encouraging them to just vote in person rather than by mail which is known as an easy way to cheat.
Maybe they shouldn't sent out the robocalls but claiming this is suppressing voters is disingenuous when they could still vote the right way, in person with a valid ID

There is no "right way to vote".

No one ever suggested that mail in voting was an easy way to cheat until Donald Trump lied about mail in voting. There is no evidence that mail-in voting is an easy way to cheat, either. All you have is Trump's lies.

 

[OKTexas]

There is no "right way to vote".

No one ever suggested that mail in voting was an easy way to cheat until Donald Trump lied about mail in voting. There is no evidence that mail-in voting is an easy way to cheat, either. All you have is Trump's lies.

Well that and about 75% of the worlds countries don't use it because it's too easy to cheat.

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[Dragonlady]

Well that and about 75% of the worlds countries don't use it because it's too easy to cheat.

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We keep debunking that lie and fools like you keep bringing it up. 3 Pinnochios for you Asshat!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/04/trumps-assertion-that-only-two-european-nations-allow-mail-in-voting/