Rick Sanchez of CNN takes on Fox News

[Intense]

You personally quit watching them, and so their ratings went down?

Such power!

I stopped watching them because They won't Cover what is happening with ACORN. This is a conspiracy, they are part of covering up High Crimes. They are obstructing, and it is shameful. I don't claim to have anything to do with their ratings, they are of no concern to me.

CNN on ACORN:

ACORN workers caught on tape allegedly advising on prostitution

I suppose if you don't watch it, you don't know.

I Suppose Someone had to Represent ACORN's side. Nice Spin.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Who are the other 6%?

Probably those that don't hold to any political ideology or don't watch television or who simply didn't answer.

Go to PRC and research the numbers yourself.

It's not that important to me.

Then why'd ya ask?

 

[tigerbob]

I stopped watching them because They won't Cover what is happening with ACORN. This is a conspiracy, they are part of covering up High Crimes. They are obstructing, and it is shameful. I don't claim to have anything to do with their ratings, they are of no concern to me.

CNN on ACORN:

ACORN workers caught on tape allegedly advising on prostitution

I suppose if you don't watch it, you don't know.

I Suppose Someone had to Represent ACORN's side. Nice Spin.

It may just be a timing thing, but the article states...

Scott Levenson, a spokesman at ACORN's national offices said, "The portrayal is false and defamatory and an attempt at 'gotcha journalism.'

"This film crew tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed. ACORN wants to see the full video before commenting further," Levenson said.

The conservative filmmakers unsuccessfully attempted similar ruses at the group's offices in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Los Angeles, California, and New York, Levenson said.

and yet......

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So, clearly, the comment that "This film crew tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed" appears at best incorrect and at worst an outright lie, and the point that was made that "The conservative filmmakers unsuccessfully attempted similar ruses at the group's offices in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Los Angeles, California, and New York, " appears to be at best cherry picking, at worst another lie.

It's not hard to find articles that cover the other cities such as this one...

ACORN Employees caught at Brooklyn office helping hookers launder earnings

...though this was admittedly a few days after so it may be, like I said, a timing thing.

 

[tigerbob]

Probably those that don't hold to any political ideology or don't watch television or who simply didn't answer.

Go to PRC and research the numbers yourself.

It's not that important to me.

Then why'd ya ask?

Idle curiosity. I was wondering whether they were 'don't knows' or it was a margin of error / rounding thing.

 

[Intense]

CNN on ACORN:

ACORN workers caught on tape allegedly advising on prostitution

I suppose if you don't watch it, you don't know.

I Suppose Someone had to Represent ACORN's side. Nice Spin.

It may just be a timing thing, but the article states...

Scott Levenson, a spokesman at ACORN's national offices said, "The portrayal is false and defamatory and an attempt at 'gotcha journalism.'

"This film crew tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed. ACORN wants to see the full video before commenting further," Levenson said.

The conservative filmmakers unsuccessfully attempted similar ruses at the group's offices in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Los Angeles, California, and New York, Levenson said.

and yet......

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So, clearly, the comment that "This film crew tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed" appears at best incorrect and at worst an outright lie, and the point that was made that "The conservative filmmakers unsuccessfully attempted similar ruses at the group's offices in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Los Angeles, California, and New York, " appears to be at best cherry picking, at worst another lie.

It's not hard to find articles that cover the other cities such as this one...

ACORN Employees caught at Brooklyn office helping hookers launder earnings

...though this was admittedly a few days after so it may be, like I said, a timing thing.

CNN is part of the Smoke Screen, holding Their Breath, waiting for it to blow over.

 

[rubberhead]

The funny thing is, because Fox says so, this should be a huge, front page, don't mention anything else type story. BECAUSE FOX SAID SO.

LOL

Enjoy the rep I sent you. Fantastic post sir.

It's not because Fox says so, it's a big story because it involves tax payer money funding a corrupt organization. Furthermore, our president has been inextricably involved with that organization for over a decade. This and many lesser stories were front page news when GWB was president, so what's changed? I'll tell you, because your answer will undoubtedly be total bullshit if in fact it even you even address the question. What's changed is that things have gotten so bad (partially because of GWB's administration) that people want to believe Obama's unrealistic promises so bad that they refuse to acknowledge that he (and his staff) are completely inept. However, more conservative lawmakers are more bound by the rules of polite decorum so they won't engage in the same kind of debasement of our public forums that liberals did so often in the interest of enraging their constituents during the reign of GWB. The one exception being Joe Wilson, who was right by the way and I think the president should be asked to publicly apologize for disrespecting the forum and his office by lying from his bully pulpit. Then congress should apologize to Joe Wilson for chastising him for being the only congressman with the courage to call him on it.

 

[HUGGY]

The funny thing is, because Fox says so, this should be a huge, front page, don't mention anything else type story. BECAUSE FOX SAID SO.

LOL

Enjoy the rep I sent you. Fantastic post sir.

It's not because Fox says so, it's a big story because it involves tax payer money funding a corrupt organization. Furthermore, our president has been inextricably involved with that organization for over a decade. This and many lesser stories were front page news when GWB was president, so what's changed? I'll tell you, because your answer will undoubtedly be total bullshit if in fact it even you even address the question. What's changed is that things have gotten so bad (partially because of GWB's administration) that people want to believe Obama's unrealistic promises so bad that they refuse to acknowledge that he (and his staff) are completely inept. However, more conservative lawmakers are more bound by the rules of polite decorum so they won't engage in the same kind of debasement of our public forums that liberals did so often in the interest of enraging their constituents during the reign of GWB. The one exception being Joe Wilson, who was right by the way and I think the president should be asked to publicly apologize for disrespecting the forum and his office by lying from his bully pulpit. Then congress should apologize to Joe Wilson for chastising him for being the only congressman with the courage to call him on it.

Name an organization that is not corrupt to some degree. Even the Red Cross is succeptable to greed and coruption.

Red Cross CEO Pulled Down $651,957 Salary - Bush Strafes New Orleans - Share The Wealth

Why don't you fucking traitorous neo con pieces of shit ever tell the truth?

Instead of all this straw man crap just come clean why you don't like acorn.

 

[rubberhead]

I stopped watching them because They won't Cover what is happening with ACORN. This is a conspiracy, they are part of covering up High Crimes. They are obstructing, and it is shameful. I don't claim to have anything to do with their ratings, they are of no concern to me.

CNN on ACORN:

ACORN workers caught on tape allegedly advising on prostitution

I suppose if you don't watch it, you don't know.

I Suppose Someone had to Represent ACORN's side. Nice Spin.

Yeah, when they say that ACORN "focuses on issues such as predatory lending", don't they mean that ACORN advocates predatory lending?

I think the real reason why Obama won't appear on Fox is that it's the only way that he can try to encourage people not to watch Fox. Maybe while they're watching the interview on CNN they won't see Fox blowing over his house of cards. Pathetic.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

The funny thing is, because Fox says so, this should be a huge, front page, don't mention anything else type story. BECAUSE FOX SAID SO.

LOL

Enjoy the rep I sent you. Fantastic post sir.

It's not because Fox says so, it's a big story because it involves tax payer money funding a corrupt organization. Furthermore, our president has been inextricably involved with that organization for over a decade. This and many lesser stories were front page news when GWB was president, so what's changed? I'll tell you, because your answer will undoubtedly be total bullshit if in fact it even you even address the question. What's changed is that things have gotten so bad (partially because of GWB's administration) that people want to believe Obama's unrealistic promises so bad that they refuse to acknowledge that he (and his staff) are completely inept. However, more conservative lawmakers are more bound by the rules of polite decorum so they won't engage in the same kind of debasement of our public forums that liberals did so often in the interest of enraging their constituents during the reign of GWB. The one exception being Joe Wilson, who was right by the way and I think the president should be asked to publicly apologize for disrespecting the forum and his office by lying from his bully pulpit. Then congress should apologize to Joe Wilson for chastising him for being the only congressman with the courage to call him on it.

Name an organization that is not corrupt to some degree. Even the Red Cross is succeptable to greed and coruption.

Red Cross CEO Pulled Down $651,957 Salary - Bush Strafes New Orleans - Share The Wealth

Why don't you fucking traitorous neo con pieces of shit ever tell the truth?

Instead of all this straw man crap just come clean why you don't like acorn.

That's it, point to other bad behavior to justify bad behAvior.


You're a stupid fuck.

 

[rubberhead]

Name an organization that is not corrupt to some degree. Even the Red Cross is succeptable to greed and coruption.

Red Cross CEO Pulled Down $651,957 Salary - Bush Strafes New Orleans - Share The Wealth

Why don't you fucking traitorous neo con pieces of shit ever tell the truth?

Instead of all this straw man crap just come clean why you don't like acorn.

I'm not a neo-con or a piece of shit. But I'll answer your second question. I don't like ACORN because they're pushing a socialist agenda and they're as dirty as a Missouri whore (who they are actually helping traffic in some underage girls from El Salvador). OK, so you found some corruption in Red Cross, has our president ever worked for Red Cross? Has Obama done leadership training for Red Cross where he taught Red Cross employees the principles of Marxism? No, and actually your tu quoque argument that corruption is OK because everyone's doin' it is actually a more problematic fallacy than a straw man argument. Corruption is not OK. It wasn't OK when Bush and his republican majority were engaging in it, it is not OK now, and it is not OK when Red Cross employees engage in it. Why is it that you progressive communist bastards always try to distract people with stinky red herrings? Wait I'll answer that, because it's the only thing that will cover up the stench of what you're shoveling!

 

[Emma]

Or is Fox News simply fabricating a story?

Of course they are. Why should this surprise anyone?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Or is Fox News simply fabricating a story?

Of course they are. Why should this surprise anyone?

What story are they fabricating? And please be specific.

 

[Missourian]

Or is Fox News simply fabricating a story?

Of course they are. Why should this surprise anyone?

Don't be afraid. You've entered the first of five stages every ACORN supporter and super liberal must transcend during this difficult period.


1) Denial &#8212; "This can't be happening to ACORN."

Denial is usually only a temporary defense for the individual.​

2) Anger &#8212; "Why ACORN? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to ACORN?";

Once in the second stage, the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue. Because of anger, the person is very difficult to communicate rationally with due to misplaced feelings of rage and envy.​

3) Bargaining &#8212; "I'll say anything if this will just blow over ."

The third stage involves the hope that the individual can somehow postpone or delay the inevitable.​

4) Depression &#8212; "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "ACORN is going down . . . What's the point?";

During the fourth stage, the ACORN supporter begins to understand the certainty of the truth. Because of this, the individual may become silent, refuse to visit USMB and spend much of the time crying.​

5) Acceptance &#8212; "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it, I may as well accept that ACORN is corrupt"

This final stage comes with peace and understanding of the truth.​

 

[paperview]

Or is Fox News simply fabricating a story?

Of course they are. Why should this surprise anyone?

What story are they fabricating? And please be specific.

Skeptic already posted a link.

For your viewing pleasure:

Rick Sanchez takes on Fox. See the video.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Of course they are. Why should this surprise anyone?

What story are they fabricating? And please be specific.

Skeptic already posted a link.

For your viewing pleasure:

Rick Sanchez takes on Fox. See the video.

I saw the video and again I'm asking "what story are they fabricating? In my opinion CNN and the rest of the leftwing media didn't cover the story. Now they might have mentioned it and was sure to shed the protesters in the worst possible light, but that's not covering the story in a manner that's on par with journalistic standards.

The Preamble to its Code of (journalistic) Ethics states:

...public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility.

It's my opinion that CNN failed to cover the story consistent with these basic principles.

 

[paperview]

What story are they fabricating? And please be specific.

Skeptic already posted a link.

For your viewing pleasure:

Rick Sanchez takes on Fox. See the video.

I saw the video and again I'm asking "what story are they fabricating? In my opinion CNN and the rest of the leftwing media didn't cover the story. Now they might have mentioned it and was sure to shed the protesters in the worst possible light, but that's not covering the story in a manner that's on par with journalistic standards.

The Preamble to its Code of (journalistic) Ethics states:

...public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility.

It's my opinion that CNN failed to cover the story consistent with these basic principles.

As Sanchez ended that superb piece, I will respond likewise:

You

Lie.

 

[rubberhead]

Of course they are. Why should this surprise anyone?

What story are they fabricating? And please be specific.

Skeptic already posted a link.

For your viewing pleasure:

Rick Sanchez takes on Fox. See the video.

It's not a story, it's an ADVERTISEMENT. Fox made an ADVERTISEMENT and CNN is trying to pretend it's newsworthy. All that Rick Sanchez has proved is that he is a tool and his masters are being crushed by Fox, but they won't go down without whining like bitchez.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Skeptic already posted a link.

For your viewing pleasure:

Rick Sanchez takes on Fox. See the video.

I saw the video and again I'm asking "what story are they fabricating? In my opinion CNN and the rest of the leftwing media didn't cover the story. Now they might have mentioned it and was sure to shed the protesters in the worst possible light, but that's not covering the story in a manner that's on par with journalistic standards.

The Preamble to its Code of (journalistic) Ethics states:

...public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility.

It's my opinion that CNN failed to cover the story consistent with these basic principles.

As Sanchez ended that superb piece, I will respond likewise:

You

Lie.

What exactly am I lying about?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

What story are they fabricating? And please be specific.

Skeptic already posted a link.

For your viewing pleasure:

Rick Sanchez takes on Fox. See the video.

It's not a story, it's an ADVERTISEMENT. Fox made an ADVERTISEMENT and CNN is trying to pretend it's newsworthy. All that Rick Sanchez has proved is that he is a tool and his masters are being crushed by Fox, but they won't go down without whining like bitchez.

I see, well someone implied that Fox was fabricating a story and now it seems they are too cowardly to back it up. Which doesn't surprise me, I suppose it's hard to back up a lie.

 

[paperview]

I saw the video and again I'm asking "what story are they fabricating? In my opinion CNN and the rest of the leftwing media didn't cover the story. Now they might have mentioned it and was sure to shed the protesters in the worst possible light, but that's not covering the story in a manner that's on par with journalistic standards.

The Preamble to its Code of (journalistic) Ethics states:

...public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility.

It's my opinion that CNN failed to cover the story consistent with these basic principles.

As Sanchez ended that superb piece, I will respond likewise:

You

Lie.

What exactly am I lying about?

I will concede you prefaced that with an "in your opinion," so I take it back - opinions can't be lies.

You will, I am certain though, never concede that Fox News lied,
when they said that other networks didn't cover it.
They did. And did a fine job of it. Even better coverage than the anti-war protesters (which ironically your side bitched and moaned about and Fox gave scant coverage...)