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The swath of destruction left by Karl Marx continues to this day. Well over 100,000,000 humans murdered by socialists and communists and that grisly toll continues, not only in North Korea and China and Cuba and Venezuela, but in African countries as well. Elsewhere in the world, Millennials are enamored by socialism and a majority of them favor it over "greedy" capitalism. Of course capitalism, or freedom, has prospered more humans than any other system in human history, but facts don't matter to Leftists/socialists. They care only about power and controlling others with their pretension of intellectual superiority. They "care" and you obviously do not.

The World Bank released its study a few months ago that claimed the world's most uneven distribution of wealth today is in Union of South Africa. I wrote a letter to about ten of the top officers there advising them that the world's most EVEN distribution of wealth was in North Sentinel Island, in the Andaman Sea. All five hundred or so inhabitants there are hunter gatherers. They have NOTHING, but everyone is equal so it's Leftist-socialist nirvana, eh?

If all those 500 people living in loin cloths were relocated to the slums of South Africa, their lives would be immeasurably improved! They would have access to clean water, food they never before imagined, some medical care, and much, much more.

"Greed" vs the benevolent pretensions of Leftists/socialists.
 

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The people of North Sentinel Island have nothing YOU consider important. Some cultures don't put a dollar sign on their God given right to live their own way on their own land without interference from some arrogant asshole who thinks he is doing them a favor by taking them to a slum in South Africa?
 
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The people of North Sentinel Island have nothing YOU consider important. Some cultures don't put a dollar sign on their God given right to live their own way on their own land without interference from some arrogant asshole who thinks he is doing them a favor by taking them to a slum in South Africa?

Fifty-seven individuals have read this so far, and only OldLady has responded with her *wisdom*.
Your kindness and intelligence shine like beautiful diamonds in the bright sunlight, OldLady. Truly. You voted for Hillary, didn't you. It's glaringly obvious.

1. It was a hypothetical. Nobody is really going to do it, but IF ONE WERE TO DO SO, only a true Marxist would make the absurd claim that they were better off with no medical care whatsoever, wearing loin cloths, and struggling to get the next meal.
2. If their conditions are so wonderful, why don't you become a hunter gatherer, OldLady?

God bless you.
 

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When a person is a member of a aboriginal tribe they are generally very content in their lives. It is the exposure to "greed" that makes life miserable. I have more than you! the classic conservative lie only helps to keep people in the poor house.
 

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The greatest threat to aboriginal tribes is human overpopulation, which is encroaching on aboriginal land all over the planet.

The solution is to express a desire to have 2 kids per family, and then back that desire up by shooting anyone and everyone who says otherwise, especially religious leaders.... and then offing any parent who has a third kid.
 
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When a person is a member of a aboriginal tribe they are generally very content in their lives. It is the exposure to "greed" that makes life miserable. I have more than you! the classic conservative lie only helps to keep people in the poor house.


How lovely that YOU are not "greedy." No, you're quite content with what you have right now, correct?
Conservatives are FAR more generous than you Leftists. Read Who Really Cares by Arthur C. Brooks and learn.

"Is there some society you know that doesn't run on greed?" - Milton Friedman to Phil Donahue
Listen and learn, if you can.


 

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The people of North Sentinel Island have nothing YOU consider important. Some cultures don't put a dollar sign on their God given right to live their own way on their own land without interference from some arrogant asshole who thinks he is doing them a favor by taking them to a slum in South Africa?

Fifty-seven individuals have read this so far, and only OldLady has responded with her *wisdom*.
Your kindness and intelligence shine like beautiful diamonds in the bright sunlight, OldLady. Truly. You voted for Hillary, didn't you. It's glaringly obvious.

1. It was a hypothetical. Nobody is really going to do it, but IF ONE WERE TO DO SO, only a true Marxist would make the absurd claim that they were better off with no medical care whatsoever, wearing loin cloths, and struggling to get the next meal.
2. If their conditions are so wonderful, why don't you become a hunter gatherer, OldLady?

God bless you.
Keep your nose out of their business, and keep your blessing.
 

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Another one of many false dichotomies.

I'm unsure if any dichotomies actually exist that way except in pure abstraction.
 

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Another one of many false dichotomies.

I'm unsure if any dichotomies actually exist that way except in pure abstraction.
Most pure ideals and theories respond much better to meeting somewhere in the middle.
 

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When a person is a member of a aboriginal tribe they are generally very content in their lives. It is the exposure to "greed" that makes life miserable. I have more than you! the classic conservative lie only helps to keep people in the poor house.





Oh? People are induced into a life of misery? Funny how all of those telling us to live with less, and to not travel, and to not eat meat, are the very ones who are jet setting all over the world living lives of high luxury. Seems you need to look at them. They are the hypocrites here, and they are relying on your stupidity to let them get away with it.
 
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So, Capitalists haven't killed a whole bunch?

The subject of the thread is "Rich vs. Poor Stupidity by the Left."

Try to pay attention, would you?
But since you so ignorantly brought up the subject trying to derail the thread:

How many people have socialists murdered? 100,000,000?
How about those lovely Muslims? 140,000,000?
How many unborn babies have been murdered thanks to the lie of Roe v. Wade, incessantly promoted and defended by you Leftists? 60,000,000 and counting?
 

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So, Capitalists haven't killed a whole bunch?

The subject of the thread is "Rich vs. Poor Stupidity by the Left."

Try to pay attention, would you?
But since you so ignorantly brought up the subject trying to derail the thread:

How many people have socialists murdered? 100,000,000?
How about those lovely Muslims? 140,000,000?
How many unborn babies have been murdered thanks to the lie of Roe v. Wade, incessantly promoted and defended by you Leftists? 60,000,000 and counting?

Good point, the Capitalist USA has killed a bunch, as did the Capitalist British Empire.
 
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So, Capitalists haven't killed a whole bunch?

The subject of the thread is "Rich vs. Poor Stupidity by the Left."

Try to pay attention, would you?
But since you so ignorantly brought up the subject trying to derail the thread:

How many people have socialists murdered? 100,000,000?
How about those lovely Muslims? 140,000,000?
How many unborn babies have been murdered thanks to the lie of Roe v. Wade, incessantly promoted and defended by you Leftists? 60,000,000 and counting?

Good point, the Capitalist USA has killed a bunch, as did the Capitalist British Empire.

You have no good points to make. Someone as ugly and unshaven as you portray yourself is clearly unsuccessful in life. I pity any woman who is so desperate as to take a liking to you.
ciao Ignore List socialist
 

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So, Capitalists haven't killed a whole bunch?

The subject of the thread is "Rich vs. Poor Stupidity by the Left."

Try to pay attention, would you?
But since you so ignorantly brought up the subject trying to derail the thread:

How many people have socialists murdered? 100,000,000?
How about those lovely Muslims? 140,000,000?
How many unborn babies have been murdered thanks to the lie of Roe v. Wade, incessantly promoted and defended by you Leftists? 60,000,000 and counting?

Good point, the Capitalist USA has killed a bunch, as did the Capitalist British Empire.

You have no good points to make. Someone as ugly and unshaven as you portray yourself is clearly unsuccessful in life. I pity any woman who is so desperate as to take a liking to you.
ciao Ignore List socialist

What an idiotic statement, not all successful people are good looking, and clean shaven.
 

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So, Capitalists haven't killed a whole bunch?

The subject of the thread is "Rich vs. Poor Stupidity by the Left."

Try to pay attention, would you?
But since you so ignorantly brought up the subject trying to derail the thread:

How many people have socialists murdered? 100,000,000?
How about those lovely Muslims? 140,000,000?
How many unborn babies have been murdered thanks to the lie of Roe v. Wade, incessantly promoted and defended by you Leftists? 60,000,000 and counting?

Good point, the Capitalist USA has killed a bunch, as did the Capitalist British Empire.
Humans are a murderous race. Period. If you count the children that those capitalists put to work at 6 and 7 years old in factories for twelve hours a day, paying their workers so little that they lived cold, starving and sick for their entire lives...knowingly poisoning the water that we ALL drink and sending choking smoke into the air,
yeah, the capitalists needed a leash. And do you think if socialists hadn't demanded it and rioted for it and risked their lives for it that things would be any different today? I doubt it.

Neither theory works 100% in practice. Blending the better parts of each can work and it does work and many successful, stable countries have democratic socialism and their people are cared for. They even get medical care and clean water and jeans instead of a loin cloth.
 
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Neither theory works 100% in practice. Blending the better parts of each can work and it does work and many successful, stable countries have democratic socialism and their people are cared for. They even get medical care and clean water and jeans instead of a loin cloth.

The fatuous pretense by Leftists that they "care" is arrogance and mendacity personified.
1. Conservatives give far more than Leftists, to charities, to secular causes, to family and friends.
Conservatives even give more of their time and blood.
2. The "capitalist" U.S. continues to spend trillions of dollars to "care for" people, notwithstanding the wails of Leftists.
3. LBJ waged his "War on Poverty" and vowed to eliminate it. How's that working? Trillions of dollars later?
For those who don't want to work, who are drug and alcohol addicts, why don't YOU give them YOUR money and put them up in YOUR home, hmmmm?

"Who doesn't work should not eat." - The Holy Bible

Socialism has been a miserable failure everywhere it has been attempted. But of course you American socialists *know how to do it RIGHT*. (wink, nudge) (with other people's money)

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Thomas Jefferson was a very remarkable man who started learning very early in life and never stopped.
At 5, began studying under his cousin's tutor.
At 9, studied Latin, Greek and French.
At 14, studied classical literature and additional languages.
At 16, entered the College of William and Mary.
Also could write in Greek with one hand, while writing the same in Latin with the other.
At 19, studied Law for 5 years starting under George Wythe.
At 23, started his own law practice.
At 25, was elected to the Virginia House of Burgesses.
At 31, wrote the widely circulated "Summary View of the Rights of British America,"
and retired from his law practice.
At 32, was a delegate to the Second Continental Congress.
At 33, wrote the Declaration of Independence.
At 33, took three years to revise Virginia's legal code
and wrote a Public Education bill and a statute for Religious Freedom.
At 36, was elected the second Governor of Virginia, succeeding Patrick Henry.
At 40, served in Congress for two years.
At 41, was the American minister to France and negotiated commercial treaties with European nations along with Ben Franklin and John Adams.
At 46, served as the first Secretary of State under George Washington.
At 53, served as Vice President and was elected President of the American Philosophical Society.
At 55, drafted the Kentucky Resolutions and became the active head of the Republican Party.
At 57, was elected the third president of the United States.
At 60, obtained the Louisiana Purchase, doubling the nation's size.
At 61, was elected to a second term as President.
At 65, retired to Monticello.
At 80, helped President Monroe shape the Monroe Doctrine.
At 81, almost single-handedly, created the University of Virginia and served as its first president.
At 83, died on the 50th Anniversary of the Signing of the Declaration of Independence, along with John Adams.
Thomas Jefferson knew because he himself studied, the previous failed attempts at government. He understood actual history, the nature of God, His laws and the nature of man. That happens to be way more than what most understand today.
Jefferson really knew his stuff...
A voice from the past to lead us in the future:
John F. Kennedy held a dinner in the White House for a group of the brightest minds in the nation at that time.
He made this statement:
"This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in the White House, with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."


"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe ." --Thomas Jefferson
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work
and give to those who would not." -- Thomas Jefferson
"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on, would save one-half the wars of the world." -- Thomas Jefferson
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretense of taking care of them." -- Thomas Jefferson
"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." -- Thomas Jefferson
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes, the propagation of ideas which
he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
 
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Neither theory works 100% in practice. Blending the better parts of each can work and it does work and many successful, stable countries have democratic socialism and their people are cared for. They even get medical care and clean water and jeans instead of a loin cloth.

The fatuous pretense by Leftists that they "care" is arrogance and mendacity personified.
1. Conservatives give far more than Leftists, to charities, to secular causes, to family and friends.
Conservatives even give more of their time and blood.
2. The "capitalist" U.S. continues to spend trillions of dollars to "care for" people, notwithstanding the wails of Leftists.
3. LBJ waged his "War on Poverty" and vowed to eliminate it. How's that working? Trillions of dollars later?
For those who don't want to work, who are drug and alcohol addicts, why don't YOU give them YOUR money and put them up in YOUR home, hmmmm?

"Who doesn't work should not eat." - The Holy Bible

Socialism has been a miserable failure everywhere it has been attempted. But of course you American socialists *know how to do it RIGHT*. (wink, nudge) (with other people's money)

LBJ & FDR saw 2 of the biggest rises in GDP & declines in poverty in 20th century US history.

But their social programs must have failed.
 
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Oh? People are induced into a life of misery? Funny how all of those telling us to live with less, and to not travel, and to not eat meat, are the very ones who are jet setting all over the world living lives of high luxury. Seems you need to look at them. They are the hypocrites here, and they are relying on your stupidity to let them get away with it.

Westwall is wise. Pay attention to him.
 

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