Revolt

[namvet]

You have no right to accuse anyone of being an enemy of the Constitution.

You have no right to accuse anyone of treason.

You sound like a Fascist.

takin' away all our rights eh ??

LOL!!! You're a joke.

Go ahead and start your little revolution. I will enjoy watching it get put down by the local police.

oops !!! their on our side to. now what???

 

[9thIDdoc]

Our forefathers made it very clear what they thought of tyranny and those who support it.

 

[namvet]

Our forefathers made it very clear what they thought of tyranny and those who support it.

 

[Victory67]

Our forefathers made it very clear what they thought of tyranny and those who support it.

Our forefathers also gave us a free and democratic society so that we could enact political change when things go wrong.

Why are you spitting on the hard work of our founding fathers?

 

[namvet]

Our forefathers made it very clear what they thought of tyranny and those who support it.

Our forefathers also gave us a free and democratic society so that we could enact political change when things go wrong.

Why are you spitting on the hard work of our founding fathers?

because your current father is spitting on us and wiping his ass with the constitution

 

[williepete]

I will give you one thing, and that is that all soldiers have the right to refuse to follow clearly illegal orders, such as to kill civilians, torture POWs, commit theft, violate international treaties, etc.

International treaties? War is all about blowing those all to Hell. But I'm glad to see you clarified your position on legal orders.

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

When I served, I disobeyed an order two times. The orders weren't illegal. They were incredibly stupid and short sighted. I did what was best for the service and my mission. Not a thing happened to me. All of us who served can give plenty of examples of Officers and NCOs looking the other way when their unit was burdened with an idiotic order. But these I speak of are petty issues.

Orders of magnitude such as killing your fellow citizen would have to pass the legal test in order to be issued and pass a test of individual morality and conscience to be carried out. In short, our servicemen aren't robots. Orders at this level would be scrutinized carefully before issued and after received. The Nuremburg Trials clearly established in Western society that following orders is not a defense against a crime.

In United States v. Keenan, 1969, the accused (Keenan) was found guilty of murder after he obeyed an order to shoot and kill an elderly Vietnamese citizen. The Court of Military Appeals held that "the justification for acts done pursuant to orders does not exist if the order was of such a nature that a man of ordinary sense and understanding would know it to be illegal."
United States v. Keenan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[MikeK]

They were throwing rocks and bottles. The people executed by stoning in the ME would probably understand that rocks and bottles can be deadly weapons if they weren't dead. They had also attacked police and firefighters, damaged and destroyed property and committed arson. And there were reports of the firing of a handgun.

Unfounded reports of a handgun. That report amounted to a rumor and nothing more.

They learned that attacking armed men is not a good idea. Big surprise.

Therein you've pronounced the very reason for the Second Amendment.

 

[Victory67]

Talking about revolution and revolt, on an anonymous internet chat forum?

Talk about being a major *****.

 

[9thIDdoc]

There's something brave about kissing government ass?

 

[Victory67]

There's something brave about kissing government ass?

start that revolution yet?

thought not. You're such an armchair revolutionary *****.

 

[MikeK]

There's something brave about kissing government ass?

start that revolution yet?

thought not. You're such an armchair revolutionary *****.

Calling names and posting silly images proves nothing but your own inability to defend your position intelligently.

 

[Drake_Roberts]

Were you aware that in 1775, a large percentage of the Colonies population did not sympathize with the rebels who were trying to throw off the yoke of the King?

Most Americans will back the winner...its what the sheep do.

That's very nice but if 500 idiots start a violent revolution in the USA over Obamacare, abortion, the income tax, Obama raising the minimum wage for Federal contractors, and NSA spying, the local, State, and Federal police will put them down, the National Guard will help if needed, and the American people will applaud.

I may be advocating war if necessary, but I wouldn't start with 500. That is most definitely suicide. Now an army of civilians in the millions? When the military is asked to fire on their friends and relatives? Even if Constitutional loyalty is strong among the armed forces, I'd place my bets on familial bonds winning out.

 

[Drake_Roberts]

You have no right to accuse anyone of being an enemy of the Constitution.

You have no right to accuse anyone of treason.

You sound like a Fascist.

takin' away all our rights eh ??

LOL!!! You're a joke.

Go ahead and start your little revolution. I will enjoy watching it get put down by the local police.

You know what Victory? I hope the left puts you in charge of PR for their entire party. Or Washington in general. I think we would have our revolution in a week or so if they did that.

 

[Drake_Roberts]

Our forefathers made it very clear what they thought of tyranny and those who support it.

Our forefathers also gave us a free and democratic society so that we could enact political change when things go wrong.

Why are you spitting on the hard work of our founding fathers?

Because people like you shred the Constitution into bits, buried them in the backyard, and built your new monument of tyranny, corruption, and the removal of the people's rights on top of its grave. What you perceive as us spitting on their work is actually us spitting on what you have made it.

 

[Imissbush]

Tim McVeighs right wing terrorism showed that the country will crush any right wing revolutions. He was killed...Good! The State snuffed that garbage out

 

[Drake_Roberts]

Tim McVeighs right wing terrorism showed that the country will crush any right wing revolutions. He was killed...Good! The State snuffed that garbage out

What about a revolt made of both the left and right? Or one made of millions?

 

[Unkotare]

What about you take your meds like the nice doctor told you to?

 

[Darkwind]

No, liberals would probably applaud.....but then, we're not really talking Americans in that case.

I enjoyed how you suddenly have intel on what some group may or may not bring to a revolt....

I'm not advocating for revolution, I think that the education department has done to good a job at domesticating 80% of the population, but if a revolt occurs, its likely to be millions, not 500....

But good luck with your fantasy.

You think millions of Americans will betray their country and revolt?

Over Obamacare, income taxes, abortion, and Social Security?

You are in a drug-induced dreamworld friend and if a "revolt" ever does happen it will be quickly put down and the American people will yell "bravo!!!!!!! encore!!!!!"

You assume (you know what that gets you) that people who are revolting are against their country.

You do understand that the government is not 'the country', right?

Have you read ANY history at all? Do you know why we overthrew the crown to begin with? And please, don't say taxes, but taxes was just a small part in a longer list of abuses...

Kind of like that list you have going on right there.

 

[Darkwind]

Tim McVeighs right wing terrorism showed that the country will crush any right wing revolutions. He was killed...Good! The State snuffed that garbage out

I know its all the rage, but McVeighs rantings does not make him right wing. It makes him nuts....and not too bright to blow up a building just to make a point.

That is not a revolt or a revolution.

 

[Drake_Roberts]

What about you take your meds like the nice doctor told you to?

Remind me why I would take meds when I am perfectly sane?