Results of the Trump/Putin Meeting on Aug 15th, 2025

I suspect Trump will offer Putin some kind of off ramp so he get himself out this quagmire he has gotten himself into rather Putin is smart enough to take who knows. Ukraine is not going to drive Russia totally out the country and Russia is not going to take over all of Ukraine and nothing is going to change till people come to terms with this.
 
Two of the recent excuses.

1). Whatever happens, but only if bad, is the fault of the left.
2). Whatever happens, we will blame the Left for ******* it up.

Sounds like you cult members aren't expecting any good news. WHY?

Have we ever heard good news about Trump from the left?

Not that I'm aware of.
 
Have we ever heard good news about Trump from the left?

Not that I'm aware of.
The DOW is up a bit.

Started at 44,025, now at 44,911.
This is a FACT.

Up 2% in 7 months.

Great news from the trump side.....not good news.....GREAT NEWS.

You like that ^^^^.
 
The DOW is up a bit.

Started at 44,025, now at 44,911.
This is a FACT.

Up 2% in 7 months.

Great news from the trump side.....not good news.....GREAT NEWS.

You like that ^^^^.

Well, he did include "Make America wealthy again" toward the closing of his campaign rallies.
 
Two of the recent excuses.

1). Whatever happens, but only if bad, is the fault of the left.
2). Whatever happens, we will blame the Left for ******* it up.

Sounds like you cult members aren't expecting any good news. WHY?
You on the left sure think highly of yourselves.

WTF do you think you have to do with it?

Good news would be the end of the war and the end of sending Ukraine any more money.

The bad news is communists keep doing what they do and kill each other off for a while longer.

Unicorn fantasies can only take so much reality but the reality is the area will never be as it was 5 years ago.
 
I don't have anything vested in the stock market. :laughing0301:

Well, he did include "Make America wealthy again" toward the closing of his campaign rallies.
Well congrats.

Because I do. 401k plus 403b
Plus a Pension.
Plus a Retirement Plan.

And SS when I decide that I can give up my 100K job at 65 to only earn 36K in SS.
 
I suspect Trump will offer Putin some kind of off ramp so he get himself out this quagmire he has gotten himself into rather Putin is smart enough to take who knows. Ukraine is not going to drive Russia totally out the country and Russia is not going to take over all of Ukraine and nothing is going to change till people come to terms with this.
I dont think Putin has or will come to terms with that. He wants all of Ukraine, and at the very least Kyiv. And unless we help Ukrainians slaughter 100s of 1000s more Russians, he will probably get it.

Main issue: is Ukraine worth a nuclear exchange, no matter how small the exchange?

Because I do believe Putin would nuke a Ukrainian city before giving up.

If he did, would we retaliate?

So maybe best just to keep this guy slogging until he drops dead...?
 
A very bizarre thing to say, since Putin is the one who fucked up the last ceasefire.

It's like you're programmed.
Zalenski isn’t a serious leader, he showed that at the White House. He’s just there for handouts, the worst thing for him is if the war ends and he actually has to lead what’s left of his country.

Putin knows this, Trump knows this and that’s why he wasn’t invited to Alaska.

We will see what happens next but don’t be surprised part of the deal is new Ukrainian leadership.
 
Well congrats.

Because I do. 401k plus 403b
Plus a Pension.
Plus a Retirement Plan.

And SS when I decide that I can give up my 100K job at 65 to only earn 36K in SS.
Told you SS was the worst investment you could make.
 
He’s just there for handouts
What other people call assistance against the invading dictator who is slaughtering Ukrainian civilians and invaded a European country for the third time in 14 years. Yes, that's how it works. He is asking for handouts. Hat in hand. Behind closed doors. You don't trot him out there and try to show the world that he is in a meek position and let the smattering of dumbfucks that are hanging out berate him. Typical classless, embarrassing display from our unfit President.

You also don't make it transactional. If Ukraine could just buy the weapons and trainers, it would. But such a simple idea never enters the smooth brain of our President.
 
It’ll be Chamberlain in Munich

You're still stupidly underestimating Donald Trump, just as you have for the last 8 years. Do you have any idea why Trump chose Alaska as the place to meet with Putin?

He's asserting his dominance over Putin even before the meeting has started. He's telling Putin "This used to be your land at one time, but now it belongs to us."
 
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