Reshaping US aid to the Palestinians

[danielpalos]

I originally posted this in another thread as a response...but it's intriguing enough to deserve it's own discussion. I adamently oppose the Trump administration's unilateral cutting off of all aid to the Palestinians. Trump has no Middle East plan - all he believes in is punishing people into submission without regard to human suffering. However, this article offers some good ideas on how aid could be structured more effectively.



Reshaping US aid to the Palestinians

With prospects for diplomacy dim, with the need to change reality on the ground to restore a sense of possibility, and with past lessons showing that assistance should be used to promote development and reduce Israeli-Palestinian friction, we propose three recommendations for Congress to reprogram the $200 million fiscal 2018 monies to create a more stable economic, political and security environment in Gaza and the West Bank:

First, use that assistance to take water off the negotiating table. In the not too distant past, water negotiations were zero-sum, given the limited supply of water between the Mediterranean and Jordan River. Now, due to technological gains in water desalination, water use and reuse, water negotiations are no longer binary trade-offs. Instead, they can focus on the much simpler challenges of distribution and pricing.

What could this mean in practice? U.S. assistance in Gaza can fund a small solar field to power the existing Gaza Wastewater Treatment Plant, build up the community-based solar desalination units piloted by MIT, expand the UNICEF solar-fuel facility in Gaza’s Khan Younis neighborhood, initiate additional phases of the World Bank-funded North Gaza Emergency Sanitation Treatment plant, and repair water infrastructure degraded by three wars. Water also is directly linked to electricity; progress in water and sanitation will yield a better, more predictable power supply. There is real potential for small-scale, renewable power throughout Gaza, supplying energy at the community level while minimizing the risk of disruption historically associated with Gaza’s power plant.

Second, U.S. assistance should be used to substantially expand trade between Palestinians and Israelis. Consider the northern West Bank city of Jenin: Israel decided 15 years ago that if it opened a crossing point so Israeli Arabs could shop in the West Bank, it would be a stabilizer, even though the Second Intifada rebellion was ongoing. That calculation was successful; increased Palestinian trade has reduced unemployment in the northern West Bank from reportedly 50 percent in 2003 to below 20 percent now. These robust trading channels have opened sustainable opportunities for small and medium-sized businesses, improved local governance and fostered broad-based security for Palestinians and Israelis alike. In 2003, Jenin was the center for suicide bombers during the peak of the Second Intifada but now is one of the more successful Palestinian cities.

The Jenin model is replicable. American aid can help establish similar trading zones in the West Bank city of Qalqilya where Palestinian traders, shopkeepers and small businesses can sell directly to the large Israeli Arab community a few miles away. The Jenin model also can work in Gaza: Palestinian textile manufacturers have relationships with Israeli designers and European markets; Gaza historically supplied much of the fresh fruits and vegetables in Israel. These relationships could restart in months with the sustained, predictable opening of the Karem Shalom crossing and additional trading corridors from Erez or elsewhere.

Perhaps most interesting is the nascent but growing Gaza tech sector, where Gaza Sky Geeks is incubating Palestinian start-ups and more established firms are initiating software development with tech firms in Israel and beyond. Israel’s tech industry has more than 10,000 unfilled jobs which could be filled from the surplus of high-tech graduates in the West Bank and Gaza.

Third, education is a key foundation for a better future. Israelis and Americans have long criticized the Palestinian Authority for not educating its people for peace. Why not engage American universities and NGOs to elevate the Palestinian education system and prepare Palestinians for a 21st century economy? Bard College has provided long-term teacher training at Al Quds University in which teachers and principals earn an American master’s degree in education and serve as leaders in their schools. Imagine if education programming and people-to-people funding allowed the best cohort of Palestinian youth to study in Israeli universities, intern at Israeli high-tech firms, and do residencies at Israeli hospitals. ​

better solutions at lower cost is the shape of aid we should be providing in the region of the Middle East.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I originally posted this in another thread as a response...but it's intriguing enough to deserve it's own discussion. I adamently oppose the Trump administration's unilateral cutting off of all aid to the Palestinians. Trump has no Middle East plan - all he believes in is punishing people into submission without regard to human suffering. However, this article offers some good ideas on how aid could be structured more effectively.



Reshaping US aid to the Palestinians

With prospects for diplomacy dim, with the need to change reality on the ground to restore a sense of possibility, and with past lessons showing that assistance should be used to promote development and reduce Israeli-Palestinian friction, we propose three recommendations for Congress to reprogram the $200 million fiscal 2018 monies to create a more stable economic, political and security environment in Gaza and the West Bank:

First, use that assistance to take water off the negotiating table. In the not too distant past, water negotiations were zero-sum, given the limited supply of water between the Mediterranean and Jordan River. Now, due to technological gains in water desalination, water use and reuse, water negotiations are no longer binary trade-offs. Instead, they can focus on the much simpler challenges of distribution and pricing.

What could this mean in practice? U.S. assistance in Gaza can fund a small solar field to power the existing Gaza Wastewater Treatment Plant, build up the community-based solar desalination units piloted by MIT, expand the UNICEF solar-fuel facility in Gaza’s Khan Younis neighborhood, initiate additional phases of the World Bank-funded North Gaza Emergency Sanitation Treatment plant, and repair water infrastructure degraded by three wars. Water also is directly linked to electricity; progress in water and sanitation will yield a better, more predictable power supply. There is real potential for small-scale, renewable power throughout Gaza, supplying energy at the community level while minimizing the risk of disruption historically associated with Gaza’s power plant.

Second, U.S. assistance should be used to substantially expand trade between Palestinians and Israelis. Consider the northern West Bank city of Jenin: Israel decided 15 years ago that if it opened a crossing point so Israeli Arabs could shop in the West Bank, it would be a stabilizer, even though the Second Intifada rebellion was ongoing. That calculation was successful; increased Palestinian trade has reduced unemployment in the northern West Bank from reportedly 50 percent in 2003 to below 20 percent now. These robust trading channels have opened sustainable opportunities for small and medium-sized businesses, improved local governance and fostered broad-based security for Palestinians and Israelis alike. In 2003, Jenin was the center for suicide bombers during the peak of the Second Intifada but now is one of the more successful Palestinian cities.

The Jenin model is replicable. American aid can help establish similar trading zones in the West Bank city of Qalqilya where Palestinian traders, shopkeepers and small businesses can sell directly to the large Israeli Arab community a few miles away. The Jenin model also can work in Gaza: Palestinian textile manufacturers have relationships with Israeli designers and European markets; Gaza historically supplied much of the fresh fruits and vegetables in Israel. These relationships could restart in months with the sustained, predictable opening of the Karem Shalom crossing and additional trading corridors from Erez or elsewhere.

Perhaps most interesting is the nascent but growing Gaza tech sector, where Gaza Sky Geeks is incubating Palestinian start-ups and more established firms are initiating software development with tech firms in Israel and beyond. Israel’s tech industry has more than 10,000 unfilled jobs which could be filled from the surplus of high-tech graduates in the West Bank and Gaza.

Third, education is a key foundation for a better future. Israelis and Americans have long criticized the Palestinian Authority for not educating its people for peace. Why not engage American universities and NGOs to elevate the Palestinian education system and prepare Palestinians for a 21st century economy? Bard College has provided long-term teacher training at Al Quds University in which teachers and principals earn an American master’s degree in education and serve as leaders in their schools. Imagine if education programming and people-to-people funding allowed the best cohort of Palestinian youth to study in Israeli universities, intern at Israeli high-tech firms, and do residencies at Israeli hospitals. ​

better solutions at lower cost is the shape of aid we should be providing in the region of the Middle East.

What solutions, which anyone else at the UN, Israel, etc has not thought about?

We are talking about the Palestinians and how the leaders take what they want and provide hardly anything to the rest of the population.

What solution is there for that?

 

[danielpalos]

I originally posted this in another thread as a response...but it's intriguing enough to deserve it's own discussion. I adamently oppose the Trump administration's unilateral cutting off of all aid to the Palestinians. Trump has no Middle East plan - all he believes in is punishing people into submission without regard to human suffering. However, this article offers some good ideas on how aid could be structured more effectively.



Reshaping US aid to the Palestinians

With prospects for diplomacy dim, with the need to change reality on the ground to restore a sense of possibility, and with past lessons showing that assistance should be used to promote development and reduce Israeli-Palestinian friction, we propose three recommendations for Congress to reprogram the $200 million fiscal 2018 monies to create a more stable economic, political and security environment in Gaza and the West Bank:

First, use that assistance to take water off the negotiating table. In the not too distant past, water negotiations were zero-sum, given the limited supply of water between the Mediterranean and Jordan River. Now, due to technological gains in water desalination, water use and reuse, water negotiations are no longer binary trade-offs. Instead, they can focus on the much simpler challenges of distribution and pricing.

What could this mean in practice? U.S. assistance in Gaza can fund a small solar field to power the existing Gaza Wastewater Treatment Plant, build up the community-based solar desalination units piloted by MIT, expand the UNICEF solar-fuel facility in Gaza’s Khan Younis neighborhood, initiate additional phases of the World Bank-funded North Gaza Emergency Sanitation Treatment plant, and repair water infrastructure degraded by three wars. Water also is directly linked to electricity; progress in water and sanitation will yield a better, more predictable power supply. There is real potential for small-scale, renewable power throughout Gaza, supplying energy at the community level while minimizing the risk of disruption historically associated with Gaza’s power plant.

Second, U.S. assistance should be used to substantially expand trade between Palestinians and Israelis. Consider the northern West Bank city of Jenin: Israel decided 15 years ago that if it opened a crossing point so Israeli Arabs could shop in the West Bank, it would be a stabilizer, even though the Second Intifada rebellion was ongoing. That calculation was successful; increased Palestinian trade has reduced unemployment in the northern West Bank from reportedly 50 percent in 2003 to below 20 percent now. These robust trading channels have opened sustainable opportunities for small and medium-sized businesses, improved local governance and fostered broad-based security for Palestinians and Israelis alike. In 2003, Jenin was the center for suicide bombers during the peak of the Second Intifada but now is one of the more successful Palestinian cities.

The Jenin model is replicable. American aid can help establish similar trading zones in the West Bank city of Qalqilya where Palestinian traders, shopkeepers and small businesses can sell directly to the large Israeli Arab community a few miles away. The Jenin model also can work in Gaza: Palestinian textile manufacturers have relationships with Israeli designers and European markets; Gaza historically supplied much of the fresh fruits and vegetables in Israel. These relationships could restart in months with the sustained, predictable opening of the Karem Shalom crossing and additional trading corridors from Erez or elsewhere.

Perhaps most interesting is the nascent but growing Gaza tech sector, where Gaza Sky Geeks is incubating Palestinian start-ups and more established firms are initiating software development with tech firms in Israel and beyond. Israel’s tech industry has more than 10,000 unfilled jobs which could be filled from the surplus of high-tech graduates in the West Bank and Gaza.

Third, education is a key foundation for a better future. Israelis and Americans have long criticized the Palestinian Authority for not educating its people for peace. Why not engage American universities and NGOs to elevate the Palestinian education system and prepare Palestinians for a 21st century economy? Bard College has provided long-term teacher training at Al Quds University in which teachers and principals earn an American master’s degree in education and serve as leaders in their schools. Imagine if education programming and people-to-people funding allowed the best cohort of Palestinian youth to study in Israeli universities, intern at Israeli high-tech firms, and do residencies at Israeli hospitals. ​

better solutions at lower cost is the shape of aid we should be providing in the region of the Middle East.

What solutions, which anyone else at the UN, Israel, etc has not thought about?

We are talking about the Palestinians and how the leaders take what they want and provide hardly anything to the rest of the population.

What solution is there for that?

In the extra-ordinary world, we could simply ask a Dey, to go to the Middle East, to "save the day".

 

[Sixties Fan]

I originally posted this in another thread as a response...but it's intriguing enough to deserve it's own discussion. I adamently oppose the Trump administration's unilateral cutting off of all aid to the Palestinians. Trump has no Middle East plan - all he believes in is punishing people into submission without regard to human suffering. However, this article offers some good ideas on how aid could be structured more effectively.



Reshaping US aid to the Palestinians

With prospects for diplomacy dim, with the need to change reality on the ground to restore a sense of possibility, and with past lessons showing that assistance should be used to promote development and reduce Israeli-Palestinian friction, we propose three recommendations for Congress to reprogram the $200 million fiscal 2018 monies to create a more stable economic, political and security environment in Gaza and the West Bank:

First, use that assistance to take water off the negotiating table. In the not too distant past, water negotiations were zero-sum, given the limited supply of water between the Mediterranean and Jordan River. Now, due to technological gains in water desalination, water use and reuse, water negotiations are no longer binary trade-offs. Instead, they can focus on the much simpler challenges of distribution and pricing.

What could this mean in practice? U.S. assistance in Gaza can fund a small solar field to power the existing Gaza Wastewater Treatment Plant, build up the community-based solar desalination units piloted by MIT, expand the UNICEF solar-fuel facility in Gaza’s Khan Younis neighborhood, initiate additional phases of the World Bank-funded North Gaza Emergency Sanitation Treatment plant, and repair water infrastructure degraded by three wars. Water also is directly linked to electricity; progress in water and sanitation will yield a better, more predictable power supply. There is real potential for small-scale, renewable power throughout Gaza, supplying energy at the community level while minimizing the risk of disruption historically associated with Gaza’s power plant.

Second, U.S. assistance should be used to substantially expand trade between Palestinians and Israelis. Consider the northern West Bank city of Jenin: Israel decided 15 years ago that if it opened a crossing point so Israeli Arabs could shop in the West Bank, it would be a stabilizer, even though the Second Intifada rebellion was ongoing. That calculation was successful; increased Palestinian trade has reduced unemployment in the northern West Bank from reportedly 50 percent in 2003 to below 20 percent now. These robust trading channels have opened sustainable opportunities for small and medium-sized businesses, improved local governance and fostered broad-based security for Palestinians and Israelis alike. In 2003, Jenin was the center for suicide bombers during the peak of the Second Intifada but now is one of the more successful Palestinian cities.

The Jenin model is replicable. American aid can help establish similar trading zones in the West Bank city of Qalqilya where Palestinian traders, shopkeepers and small businesses can sell directly to the large Israeli Arab community a few miles away. The Jenin model also can work in Gaza: Palestinian textile manufacturers have relationships with Israeli designers and European markets; Gaza historically supplied much of the fresh fruits and vegetables in Israel. These relationships could restart in months with the sustained, predictable opening of the Karem Shalom crossing and additional trading corridors from Erez or elsewhere.

Perhaps most interesting is the nascent but growing Gaza tech sector, where Gaza Sky Geeks is incubating Palestinian start-ups and more established firms are initiating software development with tech firms in Israel and beyond. Israel’s tech industry has more than 10,000 unfilled jobs which could be filled from the surplus of high-tech graduates in the West Bank and Gaza.

Third, education is a key foundation for a better future. Israelis and Americans have long criticized the Palestinian Authority for not educating its people for peace. Why not engage American universities and NGOs to elevate the Palestinian education system and prepare Palestinians for a 21st century economy? Bard College has provided long-term teacher training at Al Quds University in which teachers and principals earn an American master’s degree in education and serve as leaders in their schools. Imagine if education programming and people-to-people funding allowed the best cohort of Palestinian youth to study in Israeli universities, intern at Israeli high-tech firms, and do residencies at Israeli hospitals. ​

better solutions at lower cost is the shape of aid we should be providing in the region of the Middle East.

What solutions, which anyone else at the UN, Israel, etc has not thought about?

We are talking about the Palestinians and how the leaders take what they want and provide hardly anything to the rest of the population.

What solution is there for that?

In the extra-ordinary world, we could simply ask a Dey, to go to the Middle East, to "save the day".

Dey is a caliphate. There is no "save the day"
No one wants to go into that hornet's nest.
And Hamas and the PLO would be the first ones to be against them since they are the ones in power.
They will attack anyone who tries to take power from them.

 

[danielpalos]

I originally posted this in another thread as a response...but it's intriguing enough to deserve it's own discussion. I adamently oppose the Trump administration's unilateral cutting off of all aid to the Palestinians. Trump has no Middle East plan - all he believes in is punishing people into submission without regard to human suffering. However, this article offers some good ideas on how aid could be structured more effectively.



Reshaping US aid to the Palestinians

With prospects for diplomacy dim, with the need to change reality on the ground to restore a sense of possibility, and with past lessons showing that assistance should be used to promote development and reduce Israeli-Palestinian friction, we propose three recommendations for Congress to reprogram the $200 million fiscal 2018 monies to create a more stable economic, political and security environment in Gaza and the West Bank:

First, use that assistance to take water off the negotiating table. In the not too distant past, water negotiations were zero-sum, given the limited supply of water between the Mediterranean and Jordan River. Now, due to technological gains in water desalination, water use and reuse, water negotiations are no longer binary trade-offs. Instead, they can focus on the much simpler challenges of distribution and pricing.

What could this mean in practice? U.S. assistance in Gaza can fund a small solar field to power the existing Gaza Wastewater Treatment Plant, build up the community-based solar desalination units piloted by MIT, expand the UNICEF solar-fuel facility in Gaza’s Khan Younis neighborhood, initiate additional phases of the World Bank-funded North Gaza Emergency Sanitation Treatment plant, and repair water infrastructure degraded by three wars. Water also is directly linked to electricity; progress in water and sanitation will yield a better, more predictable power supply. There is real potential for small-scale, renewable power throughout Gaza, supplying energy at the community level while minimizing the risk of disruption historically associated with Gaza’s power plant.

Second, U.S. assistance should be used to substantially expand trade between Palestinians and Israelis. Consider the northern West Bank city of Jenin: Israel decided 15 years ago that if it opened a crossing point so Israeli Arabs could shop in the West Bank, it would be a stabilizer, even though the Second Intifada rebellion was ongoing. That calculation was successful; increased Palestinian trade has reduced unemployment in the northern West Bank from reportedly 50 percent in 2003 to below 20 percent now. These robust trading channels have opened sustainable opportunities for small and medium-sized businesses, improved local governance and fostered broad-based security for Palestinians and Israelis alike. In 2003, Jenin was the center for suicide bombers during the peak of the Second Intifada but now is one of the more successful Palestinian cities.

The Jenin model is replicable. American aid can help establish similar trading zones in the West Bank city of Qalqilya where Palestinian traders, shopkeepers and small businesses can sell directly to the large Israeli Arab community a few miles away. The Jenin model also can work in Gaza: Palestinian textile manufacturers have relationships with Israeli designers and European markets; Gaza historically supplied much of the fresh fruits and vegetables in Israel. These relationships could restart in months with the sustained, predictable opening of the Karem Shalom crossing and additional trading corridors from Erez or elsewhere.

Perhaps most interesting is the nascent but growing Gaza tech sector, where Gaza Sky Geeks is incubating Palestinian start-ups and more established firms are initiating software development with tech firms in Israel and beyond. Israel’s tech industry has more than 10,000 unfilled jobs which could be filled from the surplus of high-tech graduates in the West Bank and Gaza.

Third, education is a key foundation for a better future. Israelis and Americans have long criticized the Palestinian Authority for not educating its people for peace. Why not engage American universities and NGOs to elevate the Palestinian education system and prepare Palestinians for a 21st century economy? Bard College has provided long-term teacher training at Al Quds University in which teachers and principals earn an American master’s degree in education and serve as leaders in their schools. Imagine if education programming and people-to-people funding allowed the best cohort of Palestinian youth to study in Israeli universities, intern at Israeli high-tech firms, and do residencies at Israeli hospitals. ​

better solutions at lower cost is the shape of aid we should be providing in the region of the Middle East.

What solutions, which anyone else at the UN, Israel, etc has not thought about?

We are talking about the Palestinians and how the leaders take what they want and provide hardly anything to the rest of the population.

What solution is there for that?

In the extra-ordinary world, we could simply ask a Dey, to go to the Middle East, to "save the day".

Dey is a caliphate. There is no "save the day"
No one wants to go into that hornet's nest.
And Hamas and the PLO would be the first ones to be against them since they are the ones in power.
They will attack anyone who tries to take power from them.

no, it isn't. it would be purely secular and temporal.

A deylicate of Palestine could ensure progress toward a more developed world in the region.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I originally posted this in another thread as a response...but it's intriguing enough to deserve it's own discussion. I adamently oppose the Trump administration's unilateral cutting off of all aid to the Palestinians. Trump has no Middle East plan - all he believes in is punishing people into submission without regard to human suffering. However, this article offers some good ideas on how aid could be structured more effectively.



Reshaping US aid to the Palestinians

With prospects for diplomacy dim, with the need to change reality on the ground to restore a sense of possibility, and with past lessons showing that assistance should be used to promote development and reduce Israeli-Palestinian friction, we propose three recommendations for Congress to reprogram the $200 million fiscal 2018 monies to create a more stable economic, political and security environment in Gaza and the West Bank:

First, use that assistance to take water off the negotiating table. In the not too distant past, water negotiations were zero-sum, given the limited supply of water between the Mediterranean and Jordan River. Now, due to technological gains in water desalination, water use and reuse, water negotiations are no longer binary trade-offs. Instead, they can focus on the much simpler challenges of distribution and pricing.

What could this mean in practice? U.S. assistance in Gaza can fund a small solar field to power the existing Gaza Wastewater Treatment Plant, build up the community-based solar desalination units piloted by MIT, expand the UNICEF solar-fuel facility in Gaza’s Khan Younis neighborhood, initiate additional phases of the World Bank-funded North Gaza Emergency Sanitation Treatment plant, and repair water infrastructure degraded by three wars. Water also is directly linked to electricity; progress in water and sanitation will yield a better, more predictable power supply. There is real potential for small-scale, renewable power throughout Gaza, supplying energy at the community level while minimizing the risk of disruption historically associated with Gaza’s power plant.

Second, U.S. assistance should be used to substantially expand trade between Palestinians and Israelis. Consider the northern West Bank city of Jenin: Israel decided 15 years ago that if it opened a crossing point so Israeli Arabs could shop in the West Bank, it would be a stabilizer, even though the Second Intifada rebellion was ongoing. That calculation was successful; increased Palestinian trade has reduced unemployment in the northern West Bank from reportedly 50 percent in 2003 to below 20 percent now. These robust trading channels have opened sustainable opportunities for small and medium-sized businesses, improved local governance and fostered broad-based security for Palestinians and Israelis alike. In 2003, Jenin was the center for suicide bombers during the peak of the Second Intifada but now is one of the more successful Palestinian cities.

The Jenin model is replicable. American aid can help establish similar trading zones in the West Bank city of Qalqilya where Palestinian traders, shopkeepers and small businesses can sell directly to the large Israeli Arab community a few miles away. The Jenin model also can work in Gaza: Palestinian textile manufacturers have relationships with Israeli designers and European markets; Gaza historically supplied much of the fresh fruits and vegetables in Israel. These relationships could restart in months with the sustained, predictable opening of the Karem Shalom crossing and additional trading corridors from Erez or elsewhere.

Perhaps most interesting is the nascent but growing Gaza tech sector, where Gaza Sky Geeks is incubating Palestinian start-ups and more established firms are initiating software development with tech firms in Israel and beyond. Israel’s tech industry has more than 10,000 unfilled jobs which could be filled from the surplus of high-tech graduates in the West Bank and Gaza.

Third, education is a key foundation for a better future. Israelis and Americans have long criticized the Palestinian Authority for not educating its people for peace. Why not engage American universities and NGOs to elevate the Palestinian education system and prepare Palestinians for a 21st century economy? Bard College has provided long-term teacher training at Al Quds University in which teachers and principals earn an American master’s degree in education and serve as leaders in their schools. Imagine if education programming and people-to-people funding allowed the best cohort of Palestinian youth to study in Israeli universities, intern at Israeli high-tech firms, and do residencies at Israeli hospitals. ​

better solutions at lower cost is the shape of aid we should be providing in the region of the Middle East.

What solutions, which anyone else at the UN, Israel, etc has not thought about?

We are talking about the Palestinians and how the leaders take what they want and provide hardly anything to the rest of the population.

What solution is there for that?

In the extra-ordinary world, we could simply ask a Dey, to go to the Middle East, to "save the day".

Dey is a caliphate. There is no "save the day"
No one wants to go into that hornet's nest.
And Hamas and the PLO would be the first ones to be against them since they are the ones in power.
They will attack anyone who tries to take power from them.

no, it isn't. it would be purely secular and temporal.

A deylicate of Palestine could ensure progress toward a more developed world in the region.

Again, how do you propose to get rid of Hamas, all the other terror groups, and the PLO and Abbas who will not give up his Presidency?

 

[danielpalos]

better solutions at lower cost is the shape of aid we should be providing in the region of the Middle East.

What solutions, which anyone else at the UN, Israel, etc has not thought about?

We are talking about the Palestinians and how the leaders take what they want and provide hardly anything to the rest of the population.

What solution is there for that?

In the extra-ordinary world, we could simply ask a Dey, to go to the Middle East, to "save the day".

Dey is a caliphate. There is no "save the day"
No one wants to go into that hornet's nest.
And Hamas and the PLO would be the first ones to be against them since they are the ones in power.
They will attack anyone who tries to take power from them.

no, it isn't. it would be purely secular and temporal.

A deylicate of Palestine could ensure progress toward a more developed world in the region.

Again, how do you propose to get rid of Hamas, all the other terror groups, and the PLO and Abbas who will not give up his Presidency?

That is what a dey is for; a lord, both spiritual and temporal; the People really can render all of their problems, unto their lord and dey.

 

[Sixties Fan]

What solutions, which anyone else at the UN, Israel, etc has not thought about?

We are talking about the Palestinians and how the leaders take what they want and provide hardly anything to the rest of the population.

What solution is there for that?

In the extra-ordinary world, we could simply ask a Dey, to go to the Middle East, to "save the day".

Dey is a caliphate. There is no "save the day"
No one wants to go into that hornet's nest.
And Hamas and the PLO would be the first ones to be against them since they are the ones in power.
They will attack anyone who tries to take power from them.

no, it isn't. it would be purely secular and temporal.

A deylicate of Palestine could ensure progress toward a more developed world in the region.

Again, how do you propose to get rid of Hamas, all the other terror groups, and the PLO and Abbas who will not give up his Presidency?

That is what a dey is for; a lord, both spiritual and temporal; the People really can render all of their problems, unto their lord and dey.

Start a thread about Dey.

This is a thread about reshaping the aid the Palestinians are getting.

 

[danielpalos]

In the extra-ordinary world, we could simply ask a Dey, to go to the Middle East, to "save the day".

Dey is a caliphate. There is no "save the day"
No one wants to go into that hornet's nest.
And Hamas and the PLO would be the first ones to be against them since they are the ones in power.
They will attack anyone who tries to take power from them.

no, it isn't. it would be purely secular and temporal.

A deylicate of Palestine could ensure progress toward a more developed world in the region.

Again, how do you propose to get rid of Hamas, all the other terror groups, and the PLO and Abbas who will not give up his Presidency?

That is what a dey is for; a lord, both spiritual and temporal; the People really can render all of their problems, unto their lord and dey.

Start a thread about Dey.

This is a thread about reshaping the aid the Palestinians are getting.

it can Only happen in the extra Ordinary world? it merely should require Ten simple Commandments from a God or a lord and dey.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Dey is a caliphate. There is no "save the day"
No one wants to go into that hornet's nest.
And Hamas and the PLO would be the first ones to be against them since they are the ones in power.
They will attack anyone who tries to take power from them.

no, it isn't. it would be purely secular and temporal.

A deylicate of Palestine could ensure progress toward a more developed world in the region.

Again, how do you propose to get rid of Hamas, all the other terror groups, and the PLO and Abbas who will not give up his Presidency?

That is what a dey is for; a lord, both spiritual and temporal; the People really can render all of their problems, unto their lord and dey.

Start a thread about Dey.

This is a thread about reshaping the aid the Palestinians are getting.

it can Only happen in the extra Ordinary world? it merely should require Ten simple Commandments from a God or a lord and dey.

Then you are in the wrong community. This is the Politics community and not the Religion one.

 

[danielpalos]

no, it isn't. it would be purely secular and temporal.

A deylicate of Palestine could ensure progress toward a more developed world in the region.

Again, how do you propose to get rid of Hamas, all the other terror groups, and the PLO and Abbas who will not give up his Presidency?

That is what a dey is for; a lord, both spiritual and temporal; the People really can render all of their problems, unto their lord and dey.

Start a thread about Dey.

This is a thread about reshaping the aid the Palestinians are getting.

it can Only happen in the extra Ordinary world? it merely should require Ten simple Commandments from a God or a lord and dey.

Then you are in the wrong community. This is the Politics community and not the Religion one.

what shape do You believe aid in that region, should be?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Again, how do you propose to get rid of Hamas, all the other terror groups, and the PLO and Abbas who will not give up his Presidency?

That is what a dey is for; a lord, both spiritual and temporal; the People really can render all of their problems, unto their lord and dey.

Start a thread about Dey.

This is a thread about reshaping the aid the Palestinians are getting.

it can Only happen in the extra Ordinary world? it merely should require Ten simple Commandments from a God or a lord and dey.

Then you are in the wrong community. This is the Politics community and not the Religion one.

what shape do You believe aid in that region, should be?

We are not talking about the region.
We are talking about aid to Gaza and the WB.

They get more than enough aid from everywhere, including Iran, which they usually use as weapons against Israel.

What other aid do they need, which they are not already getting?

 

[danielpalos]

That is what a dey is for; a lord, both spiritual and temporal; the People really can render all of their problems, unto their lord and dey.

Start a thread about Dey.

This is a thread about reshaping the aid the Palestinians are getting.

it can Only happen in the extra Ordinary world? it merely should require Ten simple Commandments from a God or a lord and dey.

Then you are in the wrong community. This is the Politics community and not the Religion one.

what shape do You believe aid in that region, should be?

We are not talking about the region.
We are talking about aid to Gaza and the WB.

They get more than enough aid from everywhere, including Iran, which they usually use as weapons against Israel.

What other aid do they need, which they are not already getting?

is that the dilemma? it should be about Peace in historic Palestine.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Start a thread about Dey.

This is a thread about reshaping the aid the Palestinians are getting.

it can Only happen in the extra Ordinary world? it merely should require Ten simple Commandments from a God or a lord and dey.

Then you are in the wrong community. This is the Politics community and not the Religion one.

what shape do You believe aid in that region, should be?

We are not talking about the region.
We are talking about aid to Gaza and the WB.

They get more than enough aid from everywhere, including Iran, which they usually use as weapons against Israel.

What other aid do they need, which they are not already getting?

is that the dilemma? it should be about Peace in historic Palestine.

You keep getting off topic.

 

[danielpalos]

it can Only happen in the extra Ordinary world? it merely should require Ten simple Commandments from a God or a lord and dey.

Then you are in the wrong community. This is the Politics community and not the Religion one.

what shape do You believe aid in that region, should be?

We are not talking about the region.
We are talking about aid to Gaza and the WB.

They get more than enough aid from everywhere, including Iran, which they usually use as weapons against Israel.

What other aid do they need, which they are not already getting?

is that the dilemma? it should be about Peace in historic Palestine.

You keep getting off topic.

Peace is a re-shapement of aid to historic Palestine.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Reshaping US aid to the Palestinians
※→ Coyote, et al,

While neither the West Bank or the Gaza Strip have specific trade agreements; it does not mean there is no trade:

West Bank + Gaza Strip* Exports:
$1.955 billion (2017 est.) $1.827 billion (2016 est.) ​

West Bank + Gaza Strip* Imports:
$6.476 billion (2017 est.) $6.11 billion (2016 est.)
​

While no one claims that the economy of the Territories is flourishing (Ranked 142)(whereas Israel Ranked ≈ 45 @ Imports: $60B). But as we discussed before, neither the Ramallah Government nor the Gaza Government is reinvesting revenue back into the infrastructure and the economy. They don't even have a plan (or for that matter a Prospectus) for the development of Areas "A" or "B."

* NOTE: The Jerusalem Economy and the does not include the
...............Sharia-compliant Finance and, of course, effects of the Wadiah.
​

Can you answer the question? If we are removing aid what trade options exist?

(COMMENT)

There is no real (unclassified) textbook on the subject of the financial interests of either government (Gaza of Ramallah). Not only is there a matter of Donor Contributions, but there are also undisclosed external covert sources and the contemporary Islamic movements.

On an open market scale, the economies of the West Bank and Gaza Strip is parasitic. Essentially, the Central Bank for the both is the Palestinian Monetary Authority (PMA). It was an outcome of the Oslo I Accords (1994). For all practical purposes, US Aid has little effect on the operation of the PMA in matters of financial stability and sustainable economic growth.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

Then you are in the wrong community. This is the Politics community and not the Religion one.

what shape do You believe aid in that region, should be?

We are not talking about the region.
We are talking about aid to Gaza and the WB.

They get more than enough aid from everywhere, including Iran, which they usually use as weapons against Israel.

What other aid do they need, which they are not already getting?

is that the dilemma? it should be about Peace in historic Palestine.

You keep getting off topic.

Peace is a re-shapement of aid to historic Palestine.

1) There is no "Historic Palestine"
2) You are continuously moving the topic from aid to peace.

You have no solutions at all.

 

[danielpalos]

what shape do You believe aid in that region, should be?

We are not talking about the region.
We are talking about aid to Gaza and the WB.

They get more than enough aid from everywhere, including Iran, which they usually use as weapons against Israel.

What other aid do they need, which they are not already getting?

is that the dilemma? it should be about Peace in historic Palestine.

You keep getting off topic.

Peace is a re-shapement of aid to historic Palestine.

1) There is no "Historic Palestine"
2) You are continuously moving the topic from aid to peace.

You have no solutions at all.

morals from a God don't seem to be enough; maybe orders from a dey, may.

 

[Shusha]

The adverse consequences felt in the economy are a direct result of, NOT peaceful and neighborly actions, but the fear they project in the Middle East and abroad. The Arab Palestinians do not represent a positive value to adjacent neighbors.

I think this is one of the key points in your post.

The Arab Palestinians want to be able to choose resistance (read: terrorism, violence, anti-peace, war, military conflict) while also expecting a robust and vibrant economy (even without their own active participation in such).

Those two things are mutually incompatible.

 

[Shusha]

Why should the Palestinians be the ones to surrender?

Well, if for no other reason, because they are losing. Badly.

But ultimately, its because their end game will result in a terrible injustice. A compromise solution benefits everyone. And is just for everyone.