Reshaping US aid to the Palestinians

[Coyote]

Do you want to know why I really think Trump cut funding to Palestine?

Its because Trump since day one has wanted to put the little "Israel/Palestine Peace Agreement" as a notch in his political bedpost to make his pp look bigger. He imagines himself to be a businessman getting the business done and playing hardball is the way to do it, in his narcissistic mind.

Yup...I couldnt agree with you more thete That is why there is no real strategy or long term plan behind it.

 

[Sixties Fan]

In related news, Jordan is upset over the UNRWA cuts, because it doesn't have the money to make up for lost (free) UNRWA services to two million of its citizens. The sob stories aren't exactly sob stories, though:
Caught in the budget battle are people like Saadi Shalaan. The 57-year-old electrical engineer, a Jordanian citizen whose parents were born near Jerusalem, sends his children to free Unrwa schools in the Wihdat refugee camp where they live. Private schools are too expensive, he said. Public schools are overcrowded and unable to accommodate more students, officials say.Why exactly does he deserve free education for his kids again?
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The Trump administration said it would make up for the UNRWA shortfall by directly paying governments to build the proper schools it should have built for its own people 70 years ago. The entire reason Jordan didn't do it is because the world was paying the bill for millions of its own citizens. Why should that continue?

UNRWA can fix its budget problems in a minute by admitting there are no "refugees" in the West Bank, Gaza or Jordan, since they are living in "Palestine" or are citizens (with a small number of exceptions of Gazans who went to Jordan in 1967.) The governments in charge should pay for their people's education, not the world. That's 80% of UNRWA's budget right there that should be slashed instantly, with the funds being transferred to the PA and Jordan earmarked to mainstream fake refugees into the mainstream, where they belong.

(full article online)

Another @UNRWA fundraising lie: it is not "secular." UNRWA schools teach the Quran (and martyrdom.) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

Before dissing Jordan it might be useful to remember that they are housing some 1.4 million Syrian refugees on top of Palestinians.

Could you tell me why you have not mentioned or talked about the issue the article brings?

What was the article about?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Do you want to know why I really think Trump cut funding to Palestine?

Its because Trump since day one has wanted to put the little "Israel/Palestine Peace Agreement" as a notch in his political bedpost to make his pp look bigger. He imagines himself to be a businessman getting the business done and playing hardball is the way to do it, in his narcissistic mind.

Yup...I couldnt agree with you more thete That is why there is no real strategy or long term plan behind it.

The original long term was the Oslo Accords.
The ones Arafat and all Arab leaders have scorned at, and continue to scorn to this day.

It was long term. It would have been easy to do for anyone in any conflict.

But not for the Muslim Arabs who cannot give up their demands of a Jew free Palestine, the whole Mandate.

So, what long term plan did you have in mind to eventually make the Arab Palestinian leaders come to the table and negotiate a Peace Treaty?

 

[Coyote]

In related news, Jordan is upset over the UNRWA cuts, because it doesn't have the money to make up for lost (free) UNRWA services to two million of its citizens. The sob stories aren't exactly sob stories, though:
Caught in the budget battle are people like Saadi Shalaan. The 57-year-old electrical engineer, a Jordanian citizen whose parents were born near Jerusalem, sends his children to free Unrwa schools in the Wihdat refugee camp where they live. Private schools are too expensive, he said. Public schools are overcrowded and unable to accommodate more students, officials say.Why exactly does he deserve free education for his kids again?
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The Trump administration said it would make up for the UNRWA shortfall by directly paying governments to build the proper schools it should have built for its own people 70 years ago. The entire reason Jordan didn't do it is because the world was paying the bill for millions of its own citizens. Why should that continue?

UNRWA can fix its budget problems in a minute by admitting there are no "refugees" in the West Bank, Gaza or Jordan, since they are living in "Palestine" or are citizens (with a small number of exceptions of Gazans who went to Jordan in 1967.) The governments in charge should pay for their people's education, not the world. That's 80% of UNRWA's budget right there that should be slashed instantly, with the funds being transferred to the PA and Jordan earmarked to mainstream fake refugees into the mainstream, where they belong.

(full article online)

Another @UNRWA fundraising lie: it is not "secular." UNRWA schools teach the Quran (and martyrdom.) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

Before dissing Jordan it might be useful to remember that they are housing some 1.4 million Syrian refugees on top of Palestinians.

Could you tell me why you have not mentioned or talked about the issue the article brings?

What was the article about?

...what is there to discuss ? Whst eas your point on posting this?

 

[Mindful]

Do you want to know why I really think Trump cut funding to Palestine?

Its because Trump since day one has wanted to put the little "Israel/Palestine Peace Agreement" as a notch in his political bedpost to make his pp look bigger. He imagines himself to be a businessman getting the business done and playing hardball is the way to do it, in his narcissistic mind.

Yup...I couldnt agree with you more thete That is why there is no real strategy or long term plan behind it.

The original long term was the Oslo Accords.
The ones Arafat and all Arab leaders have scorned at, and continue to scorn to this day.

It was long term. It would have been easy to do for anyone in any conflict.

But not for the Muslim Arabs who cannot give up their demands of a Jew free Palestine, the whole Mandate.

So, what long term plan did you have in mind to eventually make the Arab Palestinian leaders come to the table and negotiate a Peace Treaty?

The whole Mandate? Including Jordan?

 

[Coyote]

why do you keepca

Do you want to know why I really think Trump cut funding to Palestine?

Its because Trump since day one has wanted to put the little "Israel/Palestine Peace Agreement" as a notch in his political bedpost to make his pp look bigger. He imagines himself to be a businessman getting the business done and playing hardball is the way to do it, in his narcissistic mind.

Yup...I couldnt agree with you more thete That is why there is no real strategy or long term plan behind it.

The original long term was the Oslo Accords.
The ones Arafat and all Arab leaders have scorned at, and continue to scorn to this day.

It was long term. It would have been easy to do for anyone in any conflict.

But not for the Muslim Arabs who cannot give up their demands of a Jew free Palestine, the whole Mandate.

So, what long term plan did you have in mind to eventually make the Arab Palestinian leaders come to the table and negotiate a Peace Treaty?

Why do you keep calling them Muslim Arabs? They include Christians too you know.

 

[P F Tinmore]

In related news, Jordan is upset over the UNRWA cuts, because it doesn't have the money to make up for lost (free) UNRWA services to two million of its citizens. The sob stories aren't exactly sob stories, though:
Caught in the budget battle are people like Saadi Shalaan. The 57-year-old electrical engineer, a Jordanian citizen whose parents were born near Jerusalem, sends his children to free Unrwa schools in the Wihdat refugee camp where they live. Private schools are too expensive, he said. Public schools are overcrowded and unable to accommodate more students, officials say.Why exactly does he deserve free education for his kids again?
-----------------

The Trump administration said it would make up for the UNRWA shortfall by directly paying governments to build the proper schools it should have built for its own people 70 years ago. The entire reason Jordan didn't do it is because the world was paying the bill for millions of its own citizens. Why should that continue?

UNRWA can fix its budget problems in a minute by admitting there are no "refugees" in the West Bank, Gaza or Jordan, since they are living in "Palestine" or are citizens (with a small number of exceptions of Gazans who went to Jordan in 1967.) The governments in charge should pay for their people's education, not the world. That's 80% of UNRWA's budget right there that should be slashed instantly, with the funds being transferred to the PA and Jordan earmarked to mainstream fake refugees into the mainstream, where they belong.

(full article online)

Another @UNRWA fundraising lie: it is not "secular." UNRWA schools teach the Quran (and martyrdom.) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

Before dissing Jordan it might be useful to remember that they are housing some 1.4 million Syrian refugees on top of Palestinians.

Could you tell me why you have not mentioned or talked about the issue the article brings?

What was the article about?

Trump thinks he can get the Palestinians to sign away their rights for a few crumbs.

IOW, he knows nothing about the Palestinians.

 

[rylah]

Do you want to know why I really think Trump cut funding to Palestine?

Its because Trump since day one has wanted to put the little "Israel/Palestine Peace Agreement" as a notch in his political bedpost to make his pp look bigger. He imagines himself to be a businessman getting the business done and playing hardball is the way to do it, in his narcissistic mind.

Shusha I have never seen You make such infantile observations before.
Do You really imagine the situation in such terms?
No plan and vision?

Maybe we don't see the whole picture for a certain purpose...keep it positive.

 

[P F Tinmore]

why do you keepca

Do you want to know why I really think Trump cut funding to Palestine?

Its because Trump since day one has wanted to put the little "Israel/Palestine Peace Agreement" as a notch in his political bedpost to make his pp look bigger. He imagines himself to be a businessman getting the business done and playing hardball is the way to do it, in his narcissistic mind.

Yup...I couldnt agree with you more thete That is why there is no real strategy or long term plan behind it.

The original long term was the Oslo Accords.
The ones Arafat and all Arab leaders have scorned at, and continue to scorn to this day.

It was long term. It would have been easy to do for anyone in any conflict.

But not for the Muslim Arabs who cannot give up their demands of a Jew free Palestine, the whole Mandate.

So, what long term plan did you have in mind to eventually make the Arab Palestinian leaders come to the table and negotiate a Peace Treaty?

Why do you keep calling them Muslim Arabs? They include Christians too you know.

It is part of their propaganda shtick.

 

[rylah]

why do you keepca

Do you want to know why I really think Trump cut funding to Palestine?

Its because Trump since day one has wanted to put the little "Israel/Palestine Peace Agreement" as a notch in his political bedpost to make his pp look bigger. He imagines himself to be a businessman getting the business done and playing hardball is the way to do it, in his narcissistic mind.

Yup...I couldnt agree with you more thete That is why there is no real strategy or long term plan behind it.

The original long term was the Oslo Accords.
The ones Arafat and all Arab leaders have scorned at, and continue to scorn to this day.

It was long term. It would have been easy to do for anyone in any conflict.

But not for the Muslim Arabs who cannot give up their demands of a Jew free Palestine, the whole Mandate.

So, what long term plan did you have in mind to eventually make the Arab Palestinian leaders come to the table and negotiate a Peace Treaty?

Why do you keep calling them Muslim Arabs? They include Christians too you know.

It is part of their propaganda shtick.

Why do Arabs say "Yahoodi" and translate it into "Israel" for English audiences?
Why does "Palestinian" means anyone BUT Jews?

Everyone knows why... "From the River to the Sea" means no Jews allowed, and everyone knows what "after Sabbath comes Sunday" means....

 

[Shusha]

Do you want to know why I really think Trump cut funding to Palestine?

Its because Trump since day one has wanted to put the little "Israel/Palestine Peace Agreement" as a notch in his political bedpost to make his pp look bigger. He imagines himself to be a businessman getting the business done and playing hardball is the way to do it, in his narcissistic mind.

Shusha I have never seen You make such infantile observations before.
Do You really imagine the situation in such terms?
No plan and vision?

Maybe we don't see the whole picture for a certain purpose...keep it positive.

Trump IS infantile.

It's not what I would suggest. But I really do think he thinks he can play that game.

 

[Sixties Fan]

In related news, Jordan is upset over the UNRWA cuts, because it doesn't have the money to make up for lost (free) UNRWA services to two million of its citizens. The sob stories aren't exactly sob stories, though:
Caught in the budget battle are people like Saadi Shalaan. The 57-year-old electrical engineer, a Jordanian citizen whose parents were born near Jerusalem, sends his children to free Unrwa schools in the Wihdat refugee camp where they live. Private schools are too expensive, he said. Public schools are overcrowded and unable to accommodate more students, officials say.Why exactly does he deserve free education for his kids again?
-----------------

The Trump administration said it would make up for the UNRWA shortfall by directly paying governments to build the proper schools it should have built for its own people 70 years ago. The entire reason Jordan didn't do it is because the world was paying the bill for millions of its own citizens. Why should that continue?

UNRWA can fix its budget problems in a minute by admitting there are no "refugees" in the West Bank, Gaza or Jordan, since they are living in "Palestine" or are citizens (with a small number of exceptions of Gazans who went to Jordan in 1967.) The governments in charge should pay for their people's education, not the world. That's 80% of UNRWA's budget right there that should be slashed instantly, with the funds being transferred to the PA and Jordan earmarked to mainstream fake refugees into the mainstream, where they belong.

(full article online)

Another @UNRWA fundraising lie: it is not "secular." UNRWA schools teach the Quran (and martyrdom.) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

Before dissing Jordan it might be useful to remember that they are housing some 1.4 million Syrian refugees on top of Palestinians.

Could you tell me why you have not mentioned or talked about the issue the article brings?

What was the article about?

...what is there to discuss ? Whst eas your point on posting this?

For some reason you do not think that the refugee issue should be done with, once and for all as it has with all other refugees including the Jewish refugees.

For some reason Jordan should not be responsible for its Palestinian citizens and not have Unwra continue to be responsible for them.

The Syrians in Jordan and Lebanon Are refugees.

 

[Sixties Fan]

why do you keepca

Do you want to know why I really think Trump cut funding to Palestine?

Its because Trump since day one has wanted to put the little "Israel/Palestine Peace Agreement" as a notch in his political bedpost to make his pp look bigger. He imagines himself to be a businessman getting the business done and playing hardball is the way to do it, in his narcissistic mind.

Yup...I couldnt agree with you more thete That is why there is no real strategy or long term plan behind it.

The original long term was the Oslo Accords.
The ones Arafat and all Arab leaders have scorned at, and continue to scorn to this day.

It was long term. It would have been easy to do for anyone in any conflict.

But not for the Muslim Arabs who cannot give up their demands of a Jew free Palestine, the whole Mandate.

So, what long term plan did you have in mind to eventually make the Arab Palestinian leaders come to the table and negotiate a Peace Treaty?

Why do you keep calling them Muslim Arabs? They include Christians too you know.

Name one Christia Arab leader in charge of making peace decisions for all Palestinians as Arafat and Abbas have been.

 

[Coyote]

In related news, Jordan is upset over the UNRWA cuts, because it doesn't have the money to make up for lost (free) UNRWA services to two million of its citizens. The sob stories aren't exactly sob stories, though:
Caught in the budget battle are people like Saadi Shalaan. The 57-year-old electrical engineer, a Jordanian citizen whose parents were born near Jerusalem, sends his children to free Unrwa schools in the Wihdat refugee camp where they live. Private schools are too expensive, he said. Public schools are overcrowded and unable to accommodate more students, officials say.Why exactly does he deserve free education for his kids again?
-----------------

The Trump administration said it would make up for the UNRWA shortfall by directly paying governments to build the proper schools it should have built for its own people 70 years ago. The entire reason Jordan didn't do it is because the world was paying the bill for millions of its own citizens. Why should that continue?

UNRWA can fix its budget problems in a minute by admitting there are no "refugees" in the West Bank, Gaza or Jordan, since they are living in "Palestine" or are citizens (with a small number of exceptions of Gazans who went to Jordan in 1967.) The governments in charge should pay for their people's education, not the world. That's 80% of UNRWA's budget right there that should be slashed instantly, with the funds being transferred to the PA and Jordan earmarked to mainstream fake refugees into the mainstream, where they belong.

(full article online)

Another @UNRWA fundraising lie: it is not "secular." UNRWA schools teach the Quran (and martyrdom.) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

Before dissing Jordan it might be useful to remember that they are housing some 1.4 million Syrian refugees on top of Palestinians.

Could you tell me why you have not mentioned or talked about the issue the article brings?

What was the article about?

...what is there to discuss ? Whst eas your point on posting this?

For some reason you do not think that the refugee issue should be done with, once and for all as it has with all other refugees including the Jewish refugees.

For some reason Jordan should not be responsible for its Palestinian citizens and not have Unwra continue to be responsible for them.

The Syrians in Jordan and Lebanon Are refugees.

My feelings are this. All those who first hand became refugees, and were refused return, still are. The rest exist in a stateless limbo. You can’t just magically waive a wand and make them non refugees because they are an inconvenient reality. The burden should be shared between the Arab states hosting them, who should grant them citizenship, Israel, and should a Palestinian state come to fruition, it should take them also.

Why should Jordon alone bear all responsibility for refugees that fled there after the conflict with Israel? In case you haven’t noticed...Jordan is pretty overwhelmed with refugees.

 

[Coyote]

What does that have to with the fact they aren’t all Muslim, that the Christians call themselves and identify as Palestinian but you insist on referring to them all as Arab Muslims?

 

[Sixties Fan]

US: Why should we fund PA hospitals, when Abbas diverts money to pay terrorists?

 

[Sixties Fan]

The American government confronts the PA house of cards

 

[rylah]

What does that have to with the fact they aren’t all Muslim, that the Christians call themselves and identify as Palestinian but you insist on referring to them all as Arab Muslims?

Language -Arabic
Nation - Arab
Flag - Pan-Arab representing four Caliphates
Legislation - Sharia.

Questions?

 

[Coyote]

US: Why should we fund PA hospitals, when Abbas diverts money to pay terrorists?

Because we fund hospitals for other countries who’s governments mismanage money but for some reason the Palestinians should be singled out for special retribution.

The people who need medical care are the ones who get hurt by this.

 

[Coyote]

What does that have to with the fact they aren’t all Muslim, that the Christians call themselves and identify as Palestinian but you insist on referring to them all as Arab Muslims?

Language -Arabic
Nation - Arabic
Legislation - Sharia.

Questions?

There are a hell of a lot of Arab speaking Christians.