Republicans won’t be satisfied with overturning Roe

[Frankenstein]

I don’t find the male at fault.


There is no crime when it’s consensual sex. So no one is at fault.

I just wonder why you’re such a nosy SOB..

Consensual sex specially random consensual sex out of the family structure does not entitle the male to seize control of the woman’s uterus and other reproductive organs just because a sperm breaks through the lining of an egg.

Who do you think these male assholes are?

Supreme beings?

EQUAL participants! The child may even have more of his DNA. If that is the case take out thew males responsibility to pay if she has it!!!!! Nosy? Infanticide is wrong!

 

[whutTHEYsay]

All of the emphasis is on incentivizing irresponsible sex and trivializing the termination/murder of the unwanted fetus.

You are a liar since Don Trump’s wife reiterated the rational and ethical secular position on the issue.

iii. NotfooledbyW i. inserts info on Melania Trump:

“It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,”​

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“Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes."​

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She is absolutely correct.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The child may even have more of his DNA.

DNA in a fetus does not a person make.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

DNA in a fetus does not a person make.

It didn't make you one.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

It didn't make you one.

Is Don Trump’s wife not a “person as well”?


iii. NotfooledbyW i. inserts info on Melania Trump: “It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,”. “Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.". nfbw 241003 Vdtwsa00001

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Is Don Trump’s wife not a “person as well”?


iii. NotfooledbyW i. inserts info on Melania Trump: “It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,”. “Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.". nfbw 241003 Vdtwsa00001

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Duck and dodge, as usual.










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[whutTHEYsay]

Duck and dodge, as usual.

you say I’m not a person for holding the same exact views as Melania Trump.

iii. NotfooledbyW i. inserts info on Melania Trump:“It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,”. “Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.". nfbw 241003 Vdtwsa00001

Is Melania Trump not a person as well?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

you say I’m not a person for holding the same exact views as Melania Trump.

iii. NotfooledbyW i. inserts info on Melania Trump:“It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,”. “Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.". nfbw 241003 Vdtwsa00001

Is Melania Trump not a person as well?

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QUOTE the thread title and post number in which I said that.








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[Mashmont]

“Republican senators are giving us a glimpse of the culture war clashes to come. There are already warning signs — including the Texas directive that prohibits parents from legally providing gender-affirming treatment and therapies to their children, as well as various state officials’ questioning whether the Constitution sanctions contraceptive use. Indeed, some Republican senators have gestured toward these future conflicts. In his questions to Jackson, Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.) repeatedly sought her views of Obergefell v. Hodges, the court’s 2015 decision legalizing same-sex marriage, pressing her as to whether the decision was properly decided. Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) took her turn at the microphone to criticize Griswold v. Connecticut, the 1965 case that legalized contraception use. It’s not a stretch to imagine this revisionism extending to Loving v. Virginia, the ruling that legalized interracial marriage. A Republican senator recently said he was open to overturning that ruling. He later walked back his comments.

All this underscores that abortion was never the conservatives’ endgame. It is merely a way station on the path to rolling back a wide range of rights — the rights that scaffold the most intimate aspects of our lives and protect the liberty and equality of marginalized groups.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/03/25/ketanji-brown-jackson-roe/

Republicans’ assault on citizens’ rights and protected liberties has just begun.

It's time to protect black babies. All blacks should want to do that. I do.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

QUOTE the thread title and post number in which I said that.

NotfooledbyW said: you say I’m not a person for holding the same exact views as Melania Trump.


I did not say you said that. You are a liar. But using your logic that my position on reproductive freedom for women disqualifies me as being a person means that everyone who has my views on the legality and the right to an abortion in your mind is not a person.

If I am not a person; Melania Trump cannot be a person; by your logic and reasoning and basic white medieval Christianity bigotry and hate, No one who believes that women should have the basic right to choose to continue a pregnancy or not is a person I’m reading your original statement.

By logic truth and reason, that is a fact.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is Don Trump’s wife not a “person as well”?


iii. NotfooledbyW i. inserts info on Melania Trump: “It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,”. “Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.". nfbw 241003 Vdtwsa00001

Worry about your own shortcomings first.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Worry about your own shortcomings first.

I have no shortcomings when it comes to reason facts and truth.

Melania Trump speaks truth here:

iii. NotfooledbyW i. inserts info on Melania Trump:“It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,”. “Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.". nfbw 241003 Vdtwsa00001

tell me why she is wrong.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

NotfooledbyW said: you say I’m not a person for holding the same exact views as Melania Trump.


I did not say you said that. You are a liar. But using your logic that my position on reproductive freedom for women disqualifies me as being a person means that everyone who has my views on the legality and the right to an abortion in your mind is not a person.

If I am not a person; Melania Trump cannot be a person; by your logic and reasoning and basic white medieval Christianity bigotry and hate, No one who believes that women should have the basic right to choose to continue a pregnancy or not is a person I’m reading your original statement.

By logic truth and reason, that is a fact.

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Yeah. We all thought so. Thanks for confirming.












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[whutTHEYsay]

The hypocrisy of the left is breathtaking.

Why do yiuv say “left”

iii. NotfooledbyW i. inserts info on Melania Trump:“It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,”. “Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.". nfbw 241003 Vdtwsa00001

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Thanks for confirming.

If I am not a person; Melania Trump cannot be a person.

Using your logic and reasoning and basic white medieval Christianity bigotry and hate we are either both “persons“ or we are not both “persons“.

Which is it now?

 

[MarathonMike]

You are a liar since Don Trump’s wife reiterated the rational and ethical secular position on the issue.

iii. NotfooledbyW i. inserts info on Melania Trump:

“It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,”​

​

“Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes."​

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She is absolutely correct.

Donald Trump's wife? Are u kidding me? You've lost the argument. If you are SO IRRESPONSIBLE that you can't get your butt to an abortion clinic by 18 weeks, then yes you should have the baby THAT YOU CREATED and give it up to one of the 2 million couples waiting on the adoption list.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

You've lost the argument.

why have I lost the argument?

This is my view, very precisely and eloquently stated;

iii. NotfooledbyW i. inserts info on Melania Trump:“It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,”. “Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.". nfbw 241003 Vdtwsa00001

Do you have an argument against it?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

If I am not a person; Melania Trump cannot be a person.

Using your logic and reasoning and basic white medieval Christianity bigotry and hate we are either both “persons“ or we are not both “persons“.

Which is it now?

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Keep trying, kid.

This is fun.

Oh, and while you're tossing that word salad, I prefer balsamic vinaigrette.

On the side.








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[Frankenstein]

DNA in a fetus does not a person make.

It certainly does, it is now a completely different person than the mother, dress that up how you want it is a separate being!

 

[whutTHEYsay]

certainly does, it is now a completely different person than the mother, dress that up how you want it is a separate being!

Nowhere is it recognized as a person until birth; including in the Dobbs decision.

“For our part, we do not question the motives of either those who have supported and those who have opposed laws restricting abortion,” Sam Alito..​

Alito sneaked a church law into Dobbs in order to rewrite a medieval era Church law to make it look like English Common Law.

Alito sneakily cited an old law that imposed punishment for the killing of a fetus and inappropriately attributed it to English Common Law. The law was Leges Henrici Primi 222–223 (L. Downer ed. 1972) (imposing penalty for any abortion and treating a woman who aborted a "quick" child "as if she were a murderess").

It actually reads "If she does this [intentionally destroys her embryo] after it is quick [animate], she shall do penance for seven years as if she were a murderess."​

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However sAlito carefully clipped out the words "she shall do penance for seven years" from the quotation, between "quick" and "as.”​

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The word penance ding beagle9 CarsomyrPlusSix makes it church law which is not supposed to be considered civil law.

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