Republicans won’t be satisfied with overturning Roe

[Cecilie1200]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/19/oklahoma-abortion-ban-fertilization/

Oklahoma just voted to ban abortion at conception and charge anyone who abets it including cab drivers to the airport.

Only a fool really believes anyone's going to be criminally charged with driving a woman in a cab to the airport. Have you ever heard of the concept of "intent"?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Only a fool really believes anyone's going to be criminally charged with driving a woman in a cab to the airport. Have you ever heard of the concept of "intent"?

Same structure as Texas. Financial bounty to do so.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Same structure as Texas. Financial bounty to do so.

Clearly, you're not understanding the words.

Cab drivers - or rideshare drivers, more likely - have no intent to commit a crime, because they have no idea what the woman is going to the airport for. I don't know if you've ever taken a cab or an Uber, but the driver doesn't typically interrogate the passenger about why they're going somewhere.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Clearly, you're not understanding the words.

Cab drivers - or rideshare drivers, more likely - have no intent to commit a crime, because they have no idea what the woman is going to the airport for. I don't know if you've ever taken a cab or an Uber, but the driver doesn't typically interrogate the passenger about why they're going somewhere.

Intent not needed.

 

[daveman]

We already have. And you're all stroking yourselves as you dream about murdering those involved with it, because that's what psychopath fascist pervs do.

The last post featured some openly racist "replacement theory" screeching from one of your white supremacist pals here. Do you also embrace that openly racist propaganda, or do you condemn it?

Yeah, right. Maybe you're not white supremacist filth yourself, but conservatives are now required to at least give white supremacists a free pass on their white supremacism.

Don't you ever get tired of being a fucking liar? Don't you ever get tired of having nobody but your fellow leftist retards believing your lies?

Rhetorical questions. Of course you don't.

 

[daveman]

Thanks for your ignorance and stupidity. They are NOT outlawing abortion, They are leaving it up to the State

Leftists like Jonesy believe people shouldn't be allowed to decide for themselves, because they might make the wrong decision and not give Democrats more power over themselves.

 

[eagle1462010]

Intent not needed.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Intent not needed.

Sorry, but that's the law in every state in the country. No abortion law is going to change that. Driving a woman to an abortion clinic is, arguably, a different matter, because the driver knows it's an abortion clinic and what women go there for. Airports, on the other hand . . . she could be going on a trip for any damned reason, and the driver has no way of knowing.

I'm very sorry for your fun, scary little fantasies, but that's reality.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/19/oklahoma-abortion-ban-fertilization/

Oklahoma just voted to ban abortion at conception and charge anyone who abets it including cab drivers to the airport.

Bullshit, to be culpable would require the cab driver to be acting knowingly.

The Bill only allows for civil suits to begin with, not criminal charges.

Washington (CNN)Oklahoma's legislature on Thursday passed a bill that would ban abortions from the stage of "fertilization" and allow private citizens to sue abortion providers who "knowingly" perform or induce an abortion "on a pregnant woman."

The Bill also allows for exemptions for rape, incest, and a clear threat to the life of the mother.

The bill prohibits abortions at any stage of pregnancy, with exceptions for medical emergencies or if the pregnancy was a result of rape, sexual assault or incest and reported to law enforcement.

So the question is, are you lying or just ignorant and talking out of your ass?

Oklahoma lawmakers pass one of nation's strictest abortion bills banning procedure 'from fertilization'

Oklahoma's legislature on Thursday passed a bill that would ban abortions from the stage of "fertilization" and allow private citizens to sue abortion providers who "knowingly" perform or induce an abortion "on a pregnant woman."

www.cnn.com

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Intent not needed.

Is your position really so weak that you all have to lie in unison?

If you had an actual, factual argument you would not all have to resort to such tactics.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

'The damage will of course not be limited to abortion rights, but we are told comfortingly that this would never be the case. We are already hearing that abortion education will end in red states, Mississippi is workshopping a contraception ban, and options for obtaining birth control are already dwindling in states like Texas. We are living through an age in which pregnancy, miscarriage, in vitro fertilization, and contraception are all increasingly subject to monitoring and criminalization, which will be left at the discretion of overzealous state prosecutors and, yes, citizen vigilantes. New versions of the already Supreme Court–approved S.B. 8, the Texas “bounty” law, not only encourage private citizens to act under color of law, backed by the actual force of law, but they also make it impossible to ask for help for anyone who is young, pregnant, and terrified. Every conversation with a counselor, pastor, teacher, or driver is deliberately chilled. The most vulnerable pregnant persons will be left alone, terrified, and without even the possibility of openly discussing their situation with anyone. That is the plan: to chill pregnant people from seeking help unless they opt to carry to term. Don’t let the people putting the plan into effect say that it isn’t the plan.'

The People Who Promised Roe Was Safe Are Already Selling Their Next Bridge

Gaslighters thrive on calling you hysterical and emotional. They’ve been calling women hysterical and emotional for centuries.

slate.com

Republicans won't stop with just overturning Roe.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

'The damage will of course not be limited to abortion rights, but we are told comfortingly that this would never be the case. We are already hearing that abortion education will end in red states, Mississippi is workshopping a contraception ban, and options for obtaining birth control are already dwindling in states like Texas. We are living through an age in which pregnancy, miscarriage, in vitro fertilization, and contraception are all increasingly subject to monitoring and criminalization, which will be left at the discretion of overzealous state prosecutors and, yes, citizen vigilantes. New versions of the already Supreme Court–approved S.B. 8, the Texas “bounty” law, not only encourage private citizens to act under color of law, backed by the actual force of law, but they also make it impossible to ask for help for anyone who is young, pregnant, and terrified. Every conversation with a counselor, pastor, teacher, or driver is deliberately chilled. The most vulnerable pregnant persons will be left alone, terrified, and without even the possibility of openly discussing their situation with anyone. That is the plan: to chill pregnant people from seeking help unless they opt to carry to term. Don’t let the people putting the plan into effect say that it isn’t the plan.'

The People Who Promised Roe Was Safe Are Already Selling Their Next Bridge

Gaslighters thrive on calling you hysterical and emotional. They’ve been calling women hysterical and emotional for centuries.

slate.com

Republicans won't stop with just overturning Roe.

Completely unprovable, unsupportable histrionic BS.

Pregnant girls and women can absolutely get counseling from professionals, friends, or family members about abortion options in Texas.

It never has been and absolutely is not the place of schools to be providing, "abortion education".

 

[Big Bend Texas]

'The damage will of course not be limited to abortion rights, but we are told comfortingly that this would never be the case. We are already hearing that abortion education will end in red states, Mississippi is workshopping a contraception ban, and options for obtaining birth control are already dwindling in states like Texas. We are living through an age in which pregnancy, miscarriage, in vitro fertilization, and contraception are all increasingly subject to monitoring and criminalization, which will be left at the discretion of overzealous state prosecutors and, yes, citizen vigilantes. New versions of the already Supreme Court–approved S.B. 8, the Texas “bounty” law, not only encourage private citizens to act under color of law, backed by the actual force of law, but they also make it impossible to ask for help for anyone who is young, pregnant, and terrified. Every conversation with a counselor, pastor, teacher, or driver is deliberately chilled. The most vulnerable pregnant persons will be left alone, terrified, and without even the possibility of openly discussing their situation with anyone. That is the plan: to chill pregnant people from seeking help unless they opt to carry to term. Don’t let the people putting the plan into effect say that it isn’t the plan.'

The People Who Promised Roe Was Safe Are Already Selling Their Next Bridge

Gaslighters thrive on calling you hysterical and emotional. They’ve been calling women hysterical and emotional for centuries.

slate.com

Republicans won't stop with just overturning Roe.

"pregnant people".

Is it really so hard to say the word "women and girls" in 2022?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Is your position really so weak that you all have to lie in unison?

If you had an actual, factual argument you would not all have to resort to such tactics.

Read it. It's a civil statute. No government actor involved.

 

[BS Filter]

“Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) on Wednesday said his administration may challenge a Supreme Court ruling that states must provide free public education to all children, including undocumented immigrants.”

Abbott says Texas could challenge Supreme Court ruling that states educate all, including undocumented

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) on Wednesday said his administration may challenge a Supreme Court ruling that states must provide free public education to all children, including undocumented immigrant…

thehill.com

Further proof that the racist, bigoted, hateful authoritarian right will use overturning Roe as ‘justification’ to challenge other settled, accepted case law.

No such thing as "settled law".

 

[jbrownson0831]

Clearly conservatives believe the state knows better than individuals what’s in an individual’s best interest.

Actually, that is your Gestapo's version of government. Conservatives simply know that murder is against the laws of man and God.

 

[daveman]

Completely unprovable, unsupportable histrionic BS.

Pregnant girls and women can absolutely get counseling from professionals, friends, or family members about abortion options in Texas.

It never has been and absolutely is not the place of schools to be providing, "abortion education".

Leftist-run schools sure do like the idea of teenagers having sex.

 

[initforme]

We need alot less pregnancies for the good of the nation. The only way to get rid of abortion. Yet some idiots will rail against this.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

We need alot less pregnancies for the good of the nation. The only way to get rid of abortion. Yet some idiots will rail against this.

Absent immigration we have a negative population growth rate.

Ask yourself why democrats are so hell bent on Americans killing off generations of our own children while at the same time doing everything the can to flood the nation with poor, unskilled immigrants who will be dependent on gov't for their needs.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Read it. It's a civil statute. No government actor involved.

Glad you're catching up, what does that have to do with the claim intent is not needed?

Intent and foreknowledge would be required to prove either civil or criminal culpability absent a clear act of negligence.

The premise is ignorant, ill informed and ridiculous.