Republicans to Hispanics.....Vote for us, or else!

[rightwinger]

I don't really agree. I think they are just acknowledging the reality that unless they pass something with a pure majority with no possibility of filibuster it just won't have any chance of getting through the house.

I suspect the question will be whether even then, the gop can present anything to the house that can pass. Because first it will never have enough gop votes to gain a majority without dem votes if it has any amnesty provision. Further, even then, I'm not sure it'll be something the dems wish to give any approval to because it will probably still be unpalatable to many latinos.

I agree that the TeaTards in the House will not support any immigration reform regardless of who writes it

I hope so.

Lets make this the GOP platform for 2014 and 2016

 

[g5000]

GOP: We'll move immigration reform if we take back Senate | TheHill

Senate Republicans say they'll try to pass immigration reform legislation in the next two years if they take back the Senate in November.

The Republicans say winning back the Senate will allow them to pass a series of bills on their own terms that have a better chance of winning approval in the House.





Typical Republicans. "If we don't get to call the shots then nobody can"

Actually, this is a good thing. The Republicans have laid a plan on the table instead of just whining like they always do.

Let's see the plan and judge its merits.

This is EXACTLY how politicians should behave. "If elected, here is what we will do."

So let's look at what they will do.

 

[g5000]

Here is a three page white paper the GOP has issued for immigration reform: http://www.azcentral.com/ic/pdf/immigration-reform-standard.pdf

Read it. Then comment on it.

 

[rightwinger]

GOP: We'll move immigration reform if we take back Senate | TheHill

Senate Republicans say they'll try to pass immigration reform legislation in the next two years if they take back the Senate in November.

The Republicans say winning back the Senate will allow them to pass a series of bills on their own terms that have a better chance of winning approval in the House.





Typical Republicans. "If we don't get to call the shots then nobody can"

Actually, this is a good thing. The Republicans have laid a plan on the table instead of just whining like they always do.

Let's see the plan and judge its merits.

This is EXACTLY how politicians should behave. "If elected, here is what we will do."

So let's look at what they will do.

And "if" they do not take back the Senate they will continue to block immigration reform

 

[g5000]

I like this part:

Every year thousands of foreign nationals pursue degrees at America’s colleges and universities, particularly in high skilled fields. Many of them want to use their expertise in U.S. industries that will spur economic growth and create jobs for Americans. When visas aren’t available, we end up exporting this labor and ingenuity to other countries. Visa and green card allocations need to reflect the needs of employers and the desire for these exceptional individuals to help grow our economy.

It is not an entirely bad thing that the people we are educating are going back home. This is an important means by which goodwill toward America is spread around the world.

However, we can and should be using some of that talent here at home to our own economic benefit.

I am unsure what is meant by this part:

Of particular concern are the needs of the agricultural industry, among others. It is imperative that these temporary workers are able to meet the economic needs of the country and do not displace or disadvantage American workers.

Immigrant farm workers do not displace American workers. They do the work Americans refuse to do. Every prosperous society around the world has always had an immigrant labor force that does the shit jobs the citizens don't want to do.

You are not going to get an American to leave their suburban tract house every morning and drive their Toyota Echo several hours to go and pick lettuce one week and then drive to another location to pick peaches the next.

It's called migrant work for a reason.

We had just as many, if not more, immigrants (legal and illegal) before the economic crash than we do now. And we had full employment. Therefore, immigrants are not displacing Americans.

Our quota system needs to match the supply of immigrant farm labor to the demand for immigrant farm labor. If a farmer needs 50 people, and there are only 10 legal immigrants available, he is going to hire 40 illegals. He has no choice, and he should not be punished for it.

 

[g5000]

GOP: We'll move immigration reform if we take back Senate | TheHill

Senate Republicans say they'll try to pass immigration reform legislation in the next two years if they take back the Senate in November.

The Republicans say winning back the Senate will allow them to pass a series of bills on their own terms that have a better chance of winning approval in the House.





Typical Republicans. "If we don't get to call the shots then nobody can"

Actually, this is a good thing. The Republicans have laid a plan on the table instead of just whining like they always do.

Let's see the plan and judge its merits.

This is EXACTLY how politicians should behave. "If elected, here is what we will do."

So let's look at what they will do.

And "if" they do not take back the Senate they will continue to block immigration reform

They will block Democratic immigration reform, yes. Just like Democrats block Republican immigration reform.

Read their plan. Then comment on what you think is right or wrong with it.

The whole point of an election is to choose whose plans you want enacted. The Republicans are to be praised for putting one on the table. Even if you don't like their plan, it shows a little spine on their part. Finally.

 

[Meister]

Republicans to Hispanics.....Vote for us, or else!

Hispanics have no reason to believe our GOP on this: nothing indicates that the Party leadership will do anything other than "secure" the borders.

You mean like the reverse of the 1986 amnesty bill where the borders were supposed to be secured and the democrats walked away from it....That's where you got your skepticism huh, Jake?

 

[buckeye45_73]

GOP: We'll move immigration reform if we take back Senate | TheHill

Senate Republicans say they'll try to pass immigration reform legislation in the next two years if they take back the Senate in November.

The Republicans say winning back the Senate will allow them to pass a series of bills on their own terms that have a better chance of winning approval in the House.





Typical Republicans. "If we don't get to call the shots then nobody can"

you're such a dishonest prick. calling the shots is what libtards do and dumbasses like you cant live without their "direction"

so ram a few more laws up your ass, apparently obamacare wasn't big enough.

 

[TemplarKormac]

How ironic. Is this not the very same thing Democrats are doing to them? "Vote for us or else?" What about blacks and women? Yeah, as if this thread wasn't hypocritical enough.

 

[bedowin62]

you mean the GOP is "threatening" to do things their way if they regain control of the Senate?

oh the horrors leftardz!!!


libs are laughable crybabies and hypocrites

 

[JakeStarkey]

Republicans to Hispanics.....Vote for us, or else!

Hispanics have no reason to believe our GOP on this: nothing indicates that the Party leadership will do anything other than "secure" the borders.

You mean like the reverse of the 1986 amnesty bill where the borders were supposed to be secured and the democrats walked away from it....That's where you got your skepticism huh, Jake?

I was skeptical then. The language of this bill nothing can be done UNLESS EVERYTHING is done: immigration reform, business reform, border reform.

 

[rightwinger]

Actually, this is a good thing. The Republicans have laid a plan on the table instead of just whining like they always do.

Let's see the plan and judge its merits.

This is EXACTLY how politicians should behave. "If elected, here is what we will do."

So let's look at what they will do.

And "if" they do not take back the Senate they will continue to block immigration reform

They will block Democratic immigration reform, yes. Just like Democrats block Republican immigration reform.

Read their plan. Then comment on what you think is right or wrong with it.

The whole point of an election is to choose whose plans you want enacted. The Republicans are to be praised for putting one on the table. Even if you don't like their plan, it shows a little spine on their part. Finally.

I read it and it seems consistent with what has already passed the Senate

My problem is with the "Sequential" strategy of what gets passed and when

The method is code for "Pass the parts we like and then when the parts you like come up we will squash them"

TeaTards will not support any immigration reform leading to temporary work visas or eventual citizenship..Period

 

[JakeStarkey]

bedowin, the GOP won't regain the Senate if it pisses off women and minorities.

 

[g5000]

Will someone else besides me read the actual GOP guidelines and comment?

Thank you.

ETA: Here's another link to it if the first one I posted does not work for you: shusterman.com/pdf/house-gop-immigration-principles.pdf

It will automatically download.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Republicans to Hispanics.....Vote for us, or else!

Hispanics have no reason to believe our GOP on this: nothing indicates that the Party leadership will do anything other than "secure" the borders.

Without border security nothing else matters.

Thank you for showing why the Hispanics will continue to overwhelmingly vote for Dems and defeat Pubs.

You can shout "I would rather be right than win elections" and I can honestly state, "OK, you will be neither."

We all know the Dems want open borders that's why they will never get any immigration reform passed.

That's the problem with you liberal *****, it's party over country with you morons.

 

[Yurt]

you mean the GOP is "threatening" to do things their way if they regain control of the Senate?

oh the horrors leftardz!!!


libs are laughable crybabies and hypocrites

you mean elections have consequences?

 

[Yurt]

How ironic. Is this not the very same thing Democrats are doing to them? "Vote for us or else?" What about blacks and women? Yeah, as if this thread wasn't hypocritical enough.

war on women...war on mexicans...

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Republicans to Hispanics.....Vote for us, or else!

Hispanics have no reason to believe our GOP on this: nothing indicates that the Party leadership will do anything other than "secure" the borders.

Without border security nothing else matters.

Republicans to Hispanics

We support Immigration reform, we really do

We just won't allow ANYTHING to proceed until we are satisfied that the border can stop every immigrant from passing. Until that time, you will just have to wait

Why is it you can't call them what they are "illegal" immigrants?

 

[Yurt]

my GOP, if it cannot learn lessons about the demographics and that we serve The People, will lose yet again

your gop? lol. notice only a liberal thanked you....

tell me, what is wrong with the gop making promises if elected? and why are you in such hysterics over it?

 

[g5000]

TeaTards will not support any immigration reform leading to temporary work visas or eventual citizenship..Period

The Tea Party has become less and less influential.