Republicans propose declaring Idaho a 'Christian state'

[JakeStarkey]

Are they also planning to rewrite the Constitution?

Anyone who says RWs "love" the US hasn't been paying attention.

Says the Obama fluffer.

Says the Cruz fluffer.

 

[OKTexas]

Certainly within the law, such an action will spark intense discussion, I think. Whether I agree or not, my left and right sides of the brain are in disagreement at the moment.

Republicans propose declaring Idaho a Christian state - Yahoo News

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." Sinclair Lewis

"The state action requirement stems from the fact that the constitutional amendments which protect individual rights (especially the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment) are mostly phrased as prohibitions against government action. For example, the First Amendment states that “[c]ongress shall make no law” infringing upon the freedoms of speech and religion. Because of this requirement, it is impossible for private parties (citizens or corporations) to violate these amendments, and all lawsuits alleging constitutional violations of this type must show how the government (state or federal) was responsible for the violation of their rights. This is referred to as the state action requirement. "
State Action Requirement Wex Legal Dictionary Encyclopedia LII Legal Information Institute


Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


In other words, not Congress nor sub-Congressional level entities or individuals can make a law respecting any particular religion.

What a fucking idiot, there is only one congress referred to in the Constitution, that would be the United States Congress, there is no such thing as a sub congress in the document.

 

[Dot Com]

The resolution to be voted on by the Kootenai County Republican Central Committee is non-binding, meaning it does not have the effect of laws or rules

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IOW's- its like bills that Repubs *cough* "worked on" during the last time they shut the gubment down? Maybe it was the time before the time they shut the gubment down.

 

[SwimExpert]

Certainly within the law, such an action will spark intense discussion, I think. Whether I agree or not, my left and right sides of the brain are in disagreement at the moment.

Republicans propose declaring Idaho a Christian state - Yahoo News

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." Sinclair Lewis

"The state action requirement stems from the fact that the constitutional amendments which protect individual rights (especially the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment) are mostly phrased as prohibitions against government action. For example, the First Amendment states that “[c]ongress shall make no law” infringing upon the freedoms of speech and religion. Because of this requirement, it is impossible for private parties (citizens or corporations) to violate these amendments, and all lawsuits alleging constitutional violations of this type must show how the government (state or federal) was responsible for the violation of their rights. This is referred to as the state action requirement. "
State Action Requirement Wex Legal Dictionary Encyclopedia LII Legal Information Institute


Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


In other words, not Congress nor sub-Congressional level entities or individuals can make a law respecting any particular religion.

What a fucking idiot, there is only one congress referred to in the Constitution, that would be the United States Congress, there is no such thing as a sub congress in the document.

Delta is an idiot, but you're just as much of an idiot. He did not say Sub-Congress, as if referring to a body called Sub-Congress. He said sub-congressional entities....a clumsy way of trying to argue that the constitution inherently refers to all levels of government anywhere within the United States. His argument is entirely wrong and demonstrates his full stupidity and lack of education. And your ridiculous response demonstrates your own stupidity and lack of education.

 

[jknowgood]

Are they also planning to rewrite the Constitution?

Anyone who says RWs "love" the US hasn't been paying attention.

Says the Obama fluffer.

Says the Cruz fluffer.

Cruz? You're really not that ignorant? Are you?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Certainly within the law, such an action will spark intense discussion, I think. Whether I agree or not, my left and right sides of the brain are in disagreement at the moment.

Republicans propose declaring Idaho a Christian state - Yahoo News

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." Sinclair Lewis

"The state action requirement stems from the fact that the constitutional amendments which protect individual rights (especially the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment) are mostly phrased as prohibitions against government action. For example, the First Amendment states that “[c]ongress shall make no law” infringing upon the freedoms of speech and religion. Because of this requirement, it is impossible for private parties (citizens or corporations) to violate these amendments, and all lawsuits alleging constitutional violations of this type must show how the government (state or federal) was responsible for the violation of their rights. This is referred to as the state action requirement. "
State Action Requirement Wex Legal Dictionary Encyclopedia LII Legal Information Institute


Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


In other words, not Congress nor sub-Congressional level entities or individuals can make a law respecting any particular religion.

What a fucking idiot, there is only one congress referred to in the Constitution, that would be the United States Congress, there is no such thing as a sub congress in the document.

Delta is an idiot, but you're just as much of an idiot. He did not say Sub-Congress, as if referring to a body called Sub-Congress. He said sub-congressional entities....a clumsy way of trying to argue that the constitution inherently refers to all levels of government anywhere within the United States. His argument is entirely wrong and demonstrates his full stupidity and lack of education. And your ridiculous response demonstrates your own stupidity and lack of education.

No half-agree button is there?

 

[OKTexas]

Certainly within the law, such an action will spark intense discussion, I think. Whether I agree or not, my left and right sides of the brain are in disagreement at the moment.

Republicans propose declaring Idaho a Christian state - Yahoo News

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." Sinclair Lewis

"The state action requirement stems from the fact that the constitutional amendments which protect individual rights (especially the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment) are mostly phrased as prohibitions against government action. For example, the First Amendment states that “[c]ongress shall make no law” infringing upon the freedoms of speech and religion. Because of this requirement, it is impossible for private parties (citizens or corporations) to violate these amendments, and all lawsuits alleging constitutional violations of this type must show how the government (state or federal) was responsible for the violation of their rights. This is referred to as the state action requirement. "
State Action Requirement Wex Legal Dictionary Encyclopedia LII Legal Information Institute


Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


In other words, not Congress nor sub-Congressional level entities or individuals can make a law respecting any particular religion.

What a fucking idiot, there is only one congress referred to in the Constitution, that would be the United States Congress, there is no such thing as a sub congress in the document.

Delta is an idiot, but you're just as much of an idiot. He did not say Sub-Congress, as if referring to a body called Sub-Congress. He said sub-congressional entities....a clumsy way of trying to argue that the constitution inherently refers to all levels of government anywhere within the United States. His argument is entirely wrong and demonstrates his full stupidity and lack of education. And your ridiculous response demonstrates your own stupidity and lack of education.

Well excuse the hell out of me if I have a low level of tolerance for liberal stupidity. But we do agree the boy has no idea what he's talking about.

 

[whitehall]

Don't get your clown panties in a bunch lefties. It's not going to hurt you. There are no laws or rules. It's only a statement.

 

[Iceweasel]

It's an informality and a direct response to constant left wing attacks. Sorry if they aren't bending over and spreading their cheeks enough for you.

The real interesting question is this: If the resolution passes, does it establish Idaho as a Christian state?

If not, then the resolution is a lie.
If so, then it is de facto binding.

It's like saying this is a Christian nation. It is by all accounts since most of the population identifies themselves as Christian. That doesn't make us a theocracy, we have secular laws. One is a cultural statement, the other legal. Culture does influence law to some extent but the Constitution prevents (or is supposed to) government over reach.

 

[g5000]

Let them pass their meaningless and nonbinding resolution. It has zero effect on the law and is nothing more than lame attempt at pandering.

That's exactly what it is. Just more theater for the rubes.

"Ooooooohhhhh...PRETTY!!"

 

[Ravi]

Don't get your clown panties in a bunch lefties. It's not going to hurt you. There are no laws or rules. It's only a statement.

Imagine the meltdown from you if they declared it was a Muslim state.

 

[SwimExpert]

Certainly within the law, such an action will spark intense discussion, I think. Whether I agree or not, my left and right sides of the brain are in disagreement at the moment.

Republicans propose declaring Idaho a Christian state - Yahoo News

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." Sinclair Lewis

"The state action requirement stems from the fact that the constitutional amendments which protect individual rights (especially the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment) are mostly phrased as prohibitions against government action. For example, the First Amendment states that “[c]ongress shall make no law” infringing upon the freedoms of speech and religion. Because of this requirement, it is impossible for private parties (citizens or corporations) to violate these amendments, and all lawsuits alleging constitutional violations of this type must show how the government (state or federal) was responsible for the violation of their rights. This is referred to as the state action requirement. "
State Action Requirement Wex Legal Dictionary Encyclopedia LII Legal Information Institute


Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


In other words, not Congress nor sub-Congressional level entities or individuals can make a law respecting any particular religion.

What a fucking idiot, there is only one congress referred to in the Constitution, that would be the United States Congress, there is no such thing as a sub congress in the document.

Delta is an idiot, but you're just as much of an idiot. He did not say Sub-Congress, as if referring to a body called Sub-Congress. He said sub-congressional entities....a clumsy way of trying to argue that the constitution inherently refers to all levels of government anywhere within the United States. His argument is entirely wrong and demonstrates his full stupidity and lack of education. And your ridiculous response demonstrates your own stupidity and lack of education.

Well excuse the hell out of me if I have a low level of tolerance for liberal stupidity. But we do agree the boy has no idea what he's talking about.

I have a low level for tolerance for stupidity. Liberal, conservative, it does not matter. Stupidity is stupidity, and there are no excuses for tolerating it on a partisan basis.

 

[bodecea]

Certainly within the law, such an action will spark intense discussion, I think. Whether I agree or not, my left and right sides of the brain are in disagreement at the moment.

Republicans propose declaring Idaho a Christian state - Yahoo News

I thought they were going with South Carolina.

 

[mdk]

Don't get your clown panties in a bunch lefties. It's not going to hurt you. There are no laws or rules. It's only a statement.

It is also a huge waste of time.

 

[SwimExpert]

It's an informality and a direct response to constant left wing attacks. Sorry if they aren't bending over and spreading their cheeks enough for you.

The real interesting question is this: If the resolution passes, does it establish Idaho as a Christian state?

If not, then the resolution is a lie.
If so, then it is de facto binding.

It's like saying this is a Christian nation. It is by all accounts since most of the population identifies themselves as Christian. That doesn't make us a theocracy, we have secular laws. One is a cultural statement, the other legal. Culture does influence law to some extent but the Constitution prevents (or is supposed to) government over reach.

You can say this is a Christian nation, and I can disagree with you, but neither are actions of the government. We're talking about the government of Idaho declaring that it is a Christian state, and that the laws and government are built upon Christianity. So what effect does such an act of the legislature have? Does it have no effect? If so, then the resolution itself is a lie. Is it even possible for a state legislature to pass a resolution under such circumstances as would instantly render the same a lie?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Idaho cons will make the King James their state book, and then like Florida make it illegal to feed the homeless.

Yes, surely that is what will come of this.

Man, you lefties are completely crazy.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Don't get your clown panties in a bunch lefties. It's not going to hurt you. There are no laws or rules. It's only a statement.

It is also a huge waste of time.

And furthermore, who cares what they do In Idaho? I think these leftist, moral busybodies need to chill out.

 

[kaz]

Certainly within the law, such an action will spark intense discussion, I think. Whether I agree or not, my left and right sides of the brain are in disagreement at the moment.

Republicans propose declaring Idaho a Christian state - Yahoo News

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." Sinclair Lewis

"The state action requirement stems from the fact that the constitutional amendments which protect individual rights (especially the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment) are mostly phrased as prohibitions against government action. For example, the First Amendment states that “[c]ongress shall make no law” infringing upon the freedoms of speech and religion. Because of this requirement, it is impossible for private parties (citizens or corporations) to violate these amendments, and all lawsuits alleging constitutional violations of this type must show how the government (state or federal) was responsible for the violation of their rights. This is referred to as the state action requirement. "
State Action Requirement Wex Legal Dictionary Encyclopedia LII Legal Information Institute


Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


In other words, not Congress nor sub-Congressional level entities or individuals can make a law respecting any particular religion.

Lewis was so dead wrong in that statement. It should have read ""When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in govt and carrying the guise of freedom"

I don't know, look how Democrats are anti-military but when they run a military candidate then the military is all that matters, they are anti-Christian unless they can use it for their cause. They are anti-American but when Obama is President suddenly they are for all the things they were against while they still oppose them and blame W.

Fascism is a form of socialism and fascists lie, it seems Democrats are already fulfilling his quote

 

[JakeStarkey]

Are they also planning to rewrite the Constitution?

Anyone who says RWs "love" the US hasn't been paying attention.

Says the Obama fluffer.

Says the Cruz fluffer.

Cruz? You're really not that ignorant? Are you?

Not as ignorant as you by far.

 

[mdk]

Don't get your clown panties in a bunch lefties. It's not going to hurt you. There are no laws or rules. It's only a statement.

It is also a huge waste of time.

And furthermore, who cares what they do In Idaho? I think these leftist, moral busybodies need to chill out.

I find myself having a terribly difficult time caring about a meaningless and non-binding resolution.