Republicans have this strange double speak about socialism and how it is defined

[g5000]

On the one hand, a liberal would say to a republican that we know socialism works because the Scandinavian countries' brand of socialism works. Repubs then say "those aren't socialist countries! They have private economies"

Um okay. They are socialist countries even though they have private economies. Those concepts don't have to be conflicting. They get that, right?

However, republicans will call those nations socialist depending on the context of the conversation.

A republican will say in a different conversation that Bernie shouldn't be elected because he is a dirty socialist who will turn the US into Venezuela. A liberal defending Bernie Sanders will say "No, Bernie doesn't want to end the private market system. He just wants to institute socialist policies that would require the population at large to benefit from the current overall system that we have. He also thinks healthcare and other critical institutions should be socialized or remain socialized. The Scandinavian nations have these same policies"......in response the republican says "THAT'S JUST LIKE VENEZUELA!"

No, it isn't.

Dude you’re dumb. The Scandinavian countries are not Socialist.

Tell me something, dipshit. To what party does the President of Sweden belong?

 

[g5000]

Sweden has socialized medicine:

Over the past 20 years Sweden has an average reinvestment of some 9.2% of its GDP annually on healthcare. However, around 70 percent of healthcare services are funded through local government taxes. In fact, Sweden’s health care system is highly decentralized. Its 21 county councils are responsible for hospitals and GPs, while its 290 municipalities provide municipal care. In Sweden, the county councils and municipalities are also the main providers of healthcare, with only about 10% of all health services delivered by private providers.

About Sweden’s healthcare system - SwedishHealthcare

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

On the one hand, a liberal would say to a republican that we know socialism works because the Scandinavian countries' brand of socialism works. Repubs then say "those aren't socialist countries! They have private economies"

Um okay. They are socialist countries even though they have private economies. Those concepts don't have to be conflicting. They get that, right?

However, republicans will call those nations socialist depending on the context of the conversation.

A republican will say in a different conversation that Bernie shouldn't be elected because he is a dirty socialist who will turn the US into Venezuela. A liberal defending Bernie Sanders will say "No, Bernie doesn't want to end the private market system. He just wants to institute socialist policies that would require the population at large to benefit from the current overall system that we have. He also thinks healthcare and other critical institutions should be socialized or remain socialized. The Scandinavian nations have these same policies"......in response the republican says "THAT'S JUST LIKE VENEZUELA!"

No, it isn't.

Dude you’re dumb. The Scandinavian countries are not Socialist.

Tell me something, dipshit. To what party does the President of Sweden belong?

So the US is a Republican country because our President is Republican? You're an idiot. And to further prove my point:

In the 2018 Swedish general election, The Social Democrats' vote share fell to 28.3%, its lowest level of support since 1911

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

 

[g5000]

Parliament of Finland - Wikipedia

You can see the Parliament of Finland is controlled by a coalition of the Social Democratic Party, the Green League, the Left Alliance, and the Swedish People's Party.


As for healthcare in Finland:

Healthcare in Finland consists of a highly decentralized three-level publicly funded healthcare system and a much smaller private sector. Although the Ministry of Social Affairs and Health has the highest decision-making authority, the municipalities (local governments) are responsible for providing healthcare to their residents.

Finland offers its residents universal healthcare.

Healthcare in Finland - Wikipedia

 

[g5000]

On the one hand, a liberal would say to a republican that we know socialism works because the Scandinavian countries' brand of socialism works. Repubs then say "those aren't socialist countries! They have private economies"

Um okay. They are socialist countries even though they have private economies. Those concepts don't have to be conflicting. They get that, right?

However, republicans will call those nations socialist depending on the context of the conversation.

A republican will say in a different conversation that Bernie shouldn't be elected because he is a dirty socialist who will turn the US into Venezuela. A liberal defending Bernie Sanders will say "No, Bernie doesn't want to end the private market system. He just wants to institute socialist policies that would require the population at large to benefit from the current overall system that we have. He also thinks healthcare and other critical institutions should be socialized or remain socialized. The Scandinavian nations have these same policies"......in response the republican says "THAT'S JUST LIKE VENEZUELA!"

No, it isn't.

Dude you’re dumb. The Scandinavian countries are not Socialist.

Tell me something, dipshit. To what party does the President of Sweden belong?

So the US is a Republican country because our President is Republican? You're an idiot. And to further prove my point:

In the 2018 Swedish general election, The Social Democrats' vote share fell to 28.3%, its lowest level of support since 1911

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

They have Universal Health Care. Which is what causes retards like you to scream some bullshit about Venezuela every time UHC is mentioned.

If we have UHC, we will not turn into Venezuela any more than Scandinavia has.

Got it now, tard?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Sweden has socialized medicine:

Over the past 20 years Sweden has an average reinvestment of some 9.2% of its GDP annually on healthcare. However, around 70 percent of healthcare services are funded through local government taxes. In fact, Sweden’s health care system is highly decentralized. Its 21 county councils are responsible for hospitals and GPs, while its 290 municipalities provide municipal care. In Sweden, the county councils and municipalities are also the main providers of healthcare, with only about 10% of all health services delivered by private providers.

About Sweden’s healthcare system - SwedishHealthcare

What we find, however, is the Nordic countries rank quite high on this index of economic freedom. In fact, while Hong Kong and Singapore top the list and the U.S. ranks 12th, we can find the Nordic countries in quite respectable rankings. Denmark ranks 15, Finland 17, Norway 25, and Sweden 27. In terms of numerical scores, Sweden is only 5% lower than the U.S. For further comparison, South Korea and Japan, both considered fairly pro-free market, rank 32 and 39, respectively.

You're an idiot. And you attacked me first so now I will mock you incessantly you waste of space. The principal in that school was right.

 

[g5000]

Sweden has socialized medicine:

Over the past 20 years Sweden has an average reinvestment of some 9.2% of its GDP annually on healthcare. However, around 70 percent of healthcare services are funded through local government taxes. In fact, Sweden’s health care system is highly decentralized. Its 21 county councils are responsible for hospitals and GPs, while its 290 municipalities provide municipal care. In Sweden, the county councils and municipalities are also the main providers of healthcare, with only about 10% of all health services delivered by private providers.

About Sweden’s healthcare system - SwedishHealthcare

What we find, however, is the Nordic countries rank quite high on this index of economic freedom. In fact, while Hong Kong and Singapore top the list and the U.S. ranks 12th, we can find the Nordic countries in quite respectable rankings. Denmark ranks 15, Finland 17, Norway 25, and Sweden 27. In terms of numerical scores, Sweden is only 5% lower than the U.S. For further comparison, South Korea and Japan, both considered fairly pro-free market, rank 32 and 39, respectively.

You're an idiot. And you attacked me first so now I will mock you incessantly you waste of space. The principal in that school was right.

Way to miss the point, tard.

UHC does not turn a country into Venezuela. And you just helped prove that.

All caught up now?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

On the one hand, a liberal would say to a republican that we know socialism works because the Scandinavian countries' brand of socialism works. Repubs then say "those aren't socialist countries! They have private economies"

Um okay. They are socialist countries even though they have private economies. Those concepts don't have to be conflicting. They get that, right?

However, republicans will call those nations socialist depending on the context of the conversation.

A republican will say in a different conversation that Bernie shouldn't be elected because he is a dirty socialist who will turn the US into Venezuela. A liberal defending Bernie Sanders will say "No, Bernie doesn't want to end the private market system. He just wants to institute socialist policies that would require the population at large to benefit from the current overall system that we have. He also thinks healthcare and other critical institutions should be socialized or remain socialized. The Scandinavian nations have these same policies"......in response the republican says "THAT'S JUST LIKE VENEZUELA!"

No, it isn't.

Dude you’re dumb. The Scandinavian countries are not Socialist.

Tell me something, dipshit. To what party does the President of Sweden belong?

So the US is a Republican country because our President is Republican? You're an idiot. And to further prove my point:

In the 2018 Swedish general election, The Social Democrats' vote share fell to 28.3%, its lowest level of support since 1911

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

They have Universal Health Care. Which is what causes retards like you to scream some bullshit about Venezuela every time UHC is mentioned.

If we have UHC, we will not turn into Venezuela any more than Scandinavia has.

Got it now, tard?

Douchebag, their population is also tiny, they don't have minimum wage laws and free tuition. How will our MDs repay their $400k in school loans if we have UC and they cannot make as much money? If you give them free tuition I am all for free healthcare but you cannot have one without the other. You're dumber than a pile of rocks and you're fat.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Sweden has socialized medicine:

Over the past 20 years Sweden has an average reinvestment of some 9.2% of its GDP annually on healthcare. However, around 70 percent of healthcare services are funded through local government taxes. In fact, Sweden’s health care system is highly decentralized. Its 21 county councils are responsible for hospitals and GPs, while its 290 municipalities provide municipal care. In Sweden, the county councils and municipalities are also the main providers of healthcare, with only about 10% of all health services delivered by private providers.

About Sweden’s healthcare system - SwedishHealthcare

What we find, however, is the Nordic countries rank quite high on this index of economic freedom. In fact, while Hong Kong and Singapore top the list and the U.S. ranks 12th, we can find the Nordic countries in quite respectable rankings. Denmark ranks 15, Finland 17, Norway 25, and Sweden 27. In terms of numerical scores, Sweden is only 5% lower than the U.S. For further comparison, South Korea and Japan, both considered fairly pro-free market, rank 32 and 39, respectively.

You're an idiot. And you attacked me first so now I will mock you incessantly you waste of space. The principal in that school was right.

Way to miss the point, tard.

UHC does not turn a country into Venezuela. And you just helped prove that.

All caught up now?

Find one post where I said that. Just one. You're moving the goal posts because I just proved what a moron you are. Got it?

 

[g5000]

On the one hand, a liberal would say to a republican that we know socialism works because the Scandinavian countries' brand of socialism works. Repubs then say "those aren't socialist countries! They have private economies"

Um okay. They are socialist countries even though they have private economies. Those concepts don't have to be conflicting. They get that, right?

However, republicans will call those nations socialist depending on the context of the conversation.

A republican will say in a different conversation that Bernie shouldn't be elected because he is a dirty socialist who will turn the US into Venezuela. A liberal defending Bernie Sanders will say "No, Bernie doesn't want to end the private market system. He just wants to institute socialist policies that would require the population at large to benefit from the current overall system that we have. He also thinks healthcare and other critical institutions should be socialized or remain socialized. The Scandinavian nations have these same policies"......in response the republican says "THAT'S JUST LIKE VENEZUELA!"

No, it isn't.

Dude you’re dumb. The Scandinavian countries are not Socialist.

Tell me something, dipshit. To what party does the President of Sweden belong?

So the US is a Republican country because our President is Republican? You're an idiot. And to further prove my point:

In the 2018 Swedish general election, The Social Democrats' vote share fell to 28.3%, its lowest level of support since 1911

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

They have Universal Health Care. Which is what causes retards like you to scream some bullshit about Venezuela every time UHC is mentioned.

If we have UHC, we will not turn into Venezuela any more than Scandinavia has.

Got it now, tard?

Douchebag, their population is also tiny, they don't have minimum wage laws and free tuition. How will our MDs repay their $400k in school loans if we have UC and they cannot make as much money? If you give them free tuition I am all for free healthcare but you cannot have one without the other. You're dumber than a pile of rocks and you're fat.

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Dude you’re dumb. The Scandinavian countries are not Socialist.

Tell me something, dipshit. To what party does the President of Sweden belong?

So the US is a Republican country because our President is Republican? You're an idiot. And to further prove my point:

In the 2018 Swedish general election, The Social Democrats' vote share fell to 28.3%, its lowest level of support since 1911

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

They have Universal Health Care. Which is what causes retards like you to scream some bullshit about Venezuela every time UHC is mentioned.

If we have UHC, we will not turn into Venezuela any more than Scandinavia has.

Got it now, tard?

Douchebag, their population is also tiny, they don't have minimum wage laws and free tuition. How will our MDs repay their $400k in school loans if we have UC and they cannot make as much money? If you give them free tuition I am all for free healthcare but you cannot have one without the other. You're dumber than a pile of rocks and you're fat.

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

 

[g5000]

Tell me something, dipshit. To what party does the President of Sweden belong?

So the US is a Republican country because our President is Republican? You're an idiot. And to further prove my point:

In the 2018 Swedish general election, The Social Democrats' vote share fell to 28.3%, its lowest level of support since 1911

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

They have Universal Health Care. Which is what causes retards like you to scream some bullshit about Venezuela every time UHC is mentioned.

If we have UHC, we will not turn into Venezuela any more than Scandinavia has.

Got it now, tard?

Douchebag, their population is also tiny, they don't have minimum wage laws and free tuition. How will our MDs repay their $400k in school loans if we have UC and they cannot make as much money? If you give them free tuition I am all for free healthcare but you cannot have one without the other. You're dumber than a pile of rocks and you're fat.

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

 

[g5000]

Pointing to Venezuela as the inevitable result of free healthcare and upper education is like pointing to Hitler's Germany if we cut taxes.

It's idiocy. Straight up.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So the US is a Republican country because our President is Republican? You're an idiot. And to further prove my point:

In the 2018 Swedish general election, The Social Democrats' vote share fell to 28.3%, its lowest level of support since 1911

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

They have Universal Health Care. Which is what causes retards like you to scream some bullshit about Venezuela every time UHC is mentioned.

If we have UHC, we will not turn into Venezuela any more than Scandinavia has.

Got it now, tard?

Douchebag, their population is also tiny, they don't have minimum wage laws and free tuition. How will our MDs repay their $400k in school loans if we have UC and they cannot make as much money? If you give them free tuition I am all for free healthcare but you cannot have one without the other. You're dumber than a pile of rocks and you're fat.

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Fat loser, you attacked me first regarding Sweden. I showed you were a moron so now you moved the goal posts and mentioned Venezuela, which I never brought up. You’re a fat loser and lost another debate to me. The principal was right.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Pointing to Venezuela as the inevitable result of free healthcare and upper education is like pointing to Hitler's Germany if we cut taxes.

It's idiocy. Straight up.

You’re the poster boy for idiocy and obesity.

 

[g5000]

They have Universal Health Care. Which is what causes retards like you to scream some bullshit about Venezuela every time UHC is mentioned.

If we have UHC, we will not turn into Venezuela any more than Scandinavia has.

Got it now, tard?

Douchebag, their population is also tiny, they don't have minimum wage laws and free tuition. How will our MDs repay their $400k in school loans if we have UC and they cannot make as much money? If you give them free tuition I am all for free healthcare but you cannot have one without the other. You're dumber than a pile of rocks and you're fat.

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Fat loser, you attacked me first regarding Sweden. I showed you were a moron so now you moved the goal posts and mentioned Venezuela, which I never brought up. You’re a fat loser and lost another debate to me. The principal was right.

Well, it is nice that you have admitted, and are on record admitting, free college and free healthcare won't make us a socialist country or turn us into Venezuela!

Cool!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So the US is a Republican country because our President is Republican? You're an idiot. And to further prove my point:

In the 2018 Swedish general election, The Social Democrats' vote share fell to 28.3%, its lowest level of support since 1911

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

They have Universal Health Care. Which is what causes retards like you to scream some bullshit about Venezuela every time UHC is mentioned.

If we have UHC, we will not turn into Venezuela any more than Scandinavia has.

Got it now, tard?

Douchebag, their population is also tiny, they don't have minimum wage laws and free tuition. How will our MDs repay their $400k in school loans if we have UC and they cannot make as much money? If you give them free tuition I am all for free healthcare but you cannot have one without the other. You're dumber than a pile of rocks and you're fat.

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Fat loser, you attacked me so stay on topic. I never mentioned Venezuela. Fatty.

 

[g5000]

They have Universal Health Care. Which is what causes retards like you to scream some bullshit about Venezuela every time UHC is mentioned.

If we have UHC, we will not turn into Venezuela any more than Scandinavia has.

Got it now, tard?

Douchebag, their population is also tiny, they don't have minimum wage laws and free tuition. How will our MDs repay their $400k in school loans if we have UC and they cannot make as much money? If you give them free tuition I am all for free healthcare but you cannot have one without the other. You're dumber than a pile of rocks and you're fat.

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Fat loser, you attacked me so stay on topic. I never mentioned Venezuela. Fatty.

No, I'm quite happy you have admitted government-sponsored healthcare and government-sponsored college don't make a country socialist. This is some real growth in you, azog!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Douchebag, their population is also tiny, they don't have minimum wage laws and free tuition. How will our MDs repay their $400k in school loans if we have UC and they cannot make as much money? If you give them free tuition I am all for free healthcare but you cannot have one without the other. You're dumber than a pile of rocks and you're fat.

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Fat loser, you attacked me first regarding Sweden. I showed you were a moron so now you moved the goal posts and mentioned Venezuela, which I never brought up. You’re a fat loser and lost another debate to me. The principal was right.

Well, it is nice that you have admitted, and are on record admitting, free college and free healthcare won't make us a socialist country or turn us into Venezuela!

Cool!

Are you insane? Seriously. You attacked me over Sweden and now you're discussing Venezuela? Moron.

 

[g5000]

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Fat loser, you attacked me first regarding Sweden. I showed you were a moron so now you moved the goal posts and mentioned Venezuela, which I never brought up. You’re a fat loser and lost another debate to me. The principal was right.

Well, it is nice that you have admitted, and are on record admitting, free college and free healthcare won't make us a socialist country or turn us into Venezuela!

Cool!

Are you insane? Seriously. You attacked me over Sweden and now you're discussing Venezuela? Moron.

You said the Scandinavian countries are not socialist.

Scandinavia has UHC and government-sponsored college.

Ergo, you have admitted UHC and government-sponsored college do not make a country socialist.

QED.

Thank you!