Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women. Their failed arguments are examined here:

[whutTHEYsay]

Society is deprived of whatever talent and ability that person might bring. It totally removes that genetic material from future generations.

If it was a serial killer, preying upon the unwanted, the old street people, should that even be illegal?

A homeless old person is not inside a serial killer’s body.

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vii. The religious right was not always opposed to a woman’s legal right to control their own bodies; that monstrous religious crusade began a full six years after the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling. Although evangelical fanatics will never admit it, they are attempting to enforce compliance of the Vatican’s 1968 papal encyclical on “regulating women,” and to provide patriarchal Republicans with emotion-driven electoral support founded on biblical heresy. The so-called pro-life movement’s raison d'être is in stark opposition to their god’s immutable utterance in the religious book they claim informs every aspect of their pathetic lives.

viii. According to the Christian’s “Holy Bible,” and the unerring word of the Christian’s almighty god, there is no “living being” until it takes “the breath of life.” That concept is repeated throughout the Christian bible. And, prior to the Heritage Foundation’s embrace of the Vatican encyclical on regulating women, one of the “most famous Christian fundamentalists of the 20th Century” followed the immutable word of his biblical god on when life begins. It was never at the moment of conception. It was and still is after a fetus leaves the womb and breathes of its own accord.

ix. The Southern Baptist Convention’s president at the time of the Roe ruling, Dallas First Baptist Church preacher W. A. Criswell, celebrated the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling by taking the time to write that he was pleased.

x. “I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had a life separate from its mother that it became an individual person, and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed.” (author bold)

 

[Slyhunter]

Nobody brought up the race of the child or the woman, except for the asshole who claimed someone was a racist. As such, it is a non-argument.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The voters shall decide. I see zero wrong or immoral in that as they are never wrong. Everp

Should a majority arise in a state who are pure constitutional originalists putting before the state’s electorate a constitutional amendment banning private firearm ownership to muzzle load musket ball technology making it unlawlful for private citizens to possess firearms manufactured using modern technology.

Would you believe states have more powerful rights than individual rights or just passively accept what the majority rules.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

A homeless old person is not inside a serial killer’s body.

See nfbw 241018 Vrftma01202
vii. The religious right was not always opposed to a woman’s legal right to control their own bodies; that monstrous religious crusade began a full six years after the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling. Although evangelical fanatics will never admit it, they are attempting to enforce compliance of the Vatican’s 1968 papal encyclical on “regulating women,” and to provide patriarchal Republicans with emotion-driven electoral support founded on biblical heresy. The so-called pro-life movement’s raison d'être is in stark opposition to their god’s immutable utterance in the religious book they claim informs every aspect of their pathetic lives.

viii. According to the Christian’s “Holy Bible,” and the unerring word of the Christian’s almighty god, there is no “living being” until it takes “the breath of life.” That concept is repeated throughout the Christian bible. And, prior to the Heritage Foundation’s embrace of the Vatican encyclical on regulating women, one of the “most famous Christian fundamentalists of the 20th Century” followed the immutable word of his biblical god on when life begins. It was never at the moment of conception. It was and still is after a fetus leaves the womb and breathes of its own accord.

ix. The Southern Baptist Convention’s president at the time of the Roe ruling, Dallas First Baptist Church preacher W. A. Criswell, celebrated the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling by taking the time to write that he was pleased.

x. “I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had a life separate from its mother that it became an individual person, and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed.” (author bold)

Religious arguments don't work on me. Try something else.

Women get abortions because they do not love or value their children. Whether it's right or wrong, that's the reason. Men are anxious for women to get abortions so they can move onto the next flower without child support.

 

[jc456]

IDK. It was a few weeks ago. Trump has not answered so many questions, and I hear her answering questions. So I say she's the serious candidate.

And I truly believe Kamala will be a very moderate president. She may even sell us liberals out a few times like Bill Clinton did. That's what a great president does. A great president doesn't call people who don't vote for him enemies of the people. What the fuck is wrong with you dude?

“My presidency would not be a continuation of Joe Biden’s presidency. Like every new president, I will bring my life experiences, my professional experiences and fresher new ideas. I represent a new generation of leadership,” Harris told Fox News host Bret Baier.

Harris has vowed to appoint a Republican to her Cabinet if she is elected president in November and pledged to welcome bipartisan input into her policies. Earlier in the day, she appeared with dozens of anti-Donald Trump Republicans at an event in Pennsylvania to highlight GOP support for her campaign.

“We want to turn the page from the last decade in which we have been burdened with the kind of rhetoric coming from Donald Trump that has been designed to divide our country,” Harris told Fox News when asked about her slogan, “A new way forward.”

Saying all the right things. And you fault her for it. So why bother with you?

Despite Baier’s best efforts to draw some blood, Harris held her own, avoiding pitfalls regarding progressive stances she took during her short-lived 2020 bid for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Fault her for it bitch! Then forgive Trump for CATERING to the far right.

She also got in many attacks on Trump, railing about his morals and character, and calling him too unfit and “unstable” to return to the Oval Office.
“This is a democracy, and in a democracy, the president of the United States should be willing to be able to handle criticism without saying he’s going to lock people up for doing it,” Harris said, referring to comments Trump has made threatening retribution against political enemies and late show hosts if he is elected.

“He spent $20 million on those ads trying to create a sense of fear in voters because he has no plan on focusing on the needs of the American people,” she added at another point, referring to Trump’s multimillion-dollar anti-trans ad blitz.

Bashing Trans must really work on stupid people

Funny stuff, name one Scamala answer

 

[jc456]

Every fetus in a human is human. I say it clearly again; unborn children are human.

Stop lying about what I think. Lying is immoral you know.

So ending their lives isn’t murder? Why?

 

[TruthNotBS]

Trump already said he would veto a straight-up ban. Nobody's trying to criminalize anything.

You left-wingers are death cultists.

Forcing women to go to another state to end their unwanted pregnancies is indeed criminalizing it in their state. A right-wing pig like you who is pro-genocide in Gaza and supports the US in its economic sanctions:

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Is the true death cultist. The one who violates a woman's sovereignty over her reproductive system, using the heavy hand of government to force women to remain pregnant, even when they identify their pregnancies early is definitely the death cultist. The outcome of unwanted pregnancies, giving birth to children is this:

Especially in a country where right-wing pigs like you are defunding social programs that help single mothers raise their children. You strip the single moms you forced to remain pregnant and give birth, of their access to vital resources, like housing, food-stamps, Medicaid, child daycare, school lunch programs, afterschool programs, education/job training for single mothers..etc. You Republican swine-scum, defund it all and leave these single moms and their babies fending for themselves, without the assistance that they need. So it's you who are the death cultists, the pro-death vermin, not the socialists, who want all single mothers and their actual babies, to have access to resources, which you want to deprive them of, as the right-wing conservative scumbag that you are. Pig go to hell, with Trump your master. Kamala is going to kick his ass next month.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Two sets of human DNA, one from the male, and one from the female, make it human no matter the stage of development.

But you're too stupid and biased to see the science.

You dumbass, DNA doesn't amount to a human being. The actual human being is the pregnant woman, who is carrying the zygote or embryo, the brainless fetus, who doesn't even have the organs to be conscious. You self-righteous, religious assholes, are the first ones to lend unconditional support to Israhell, in its genocidal bombing campaign in Gaza. You don't care how many actual babies and children are ripped to pieces by American ordinance or how many babies and children starve to death in Gaza. Thousands of children were buried alive, under the rubble, crushed by heavy, burning concrete, crying for their parents and siblings, dying a slow, painful death. That's your idea of pro-life.

You're the hypocrite champions of fetuses, crying for zygotes and embryos in other people's uteruses while actual babies and children are being slaughtered in Gaza and here in America babies are struggling to live a decent life due to you right-wing scum defunding the government social programs that provision them with the resources they need. You're a slimy, repulsive pig.

 

[jc456]

Forcing women to go to another state to end their unwanted pregnancies is indeed criminalizing it in their state. A right-wing pig like you who is pro-genocide in Gaza and supports the US in its economic sanctions:

​

Is the true death cultist. The one who violates a woman's sovereignty over her reproductive system, using the heavy hand of government to force women to remain pregnant, even when they identify their pregnancies early is definitely the death cultist. The outcome of unwanted pregnancies, giving birth to children is this:

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Especially in a country where right-wing pigs like you are defunding social programs that help single mothers raise their children. You strip the single moms you forced to remain pregnant and give birth, of their access to vital resources, like housing, food-stamps, Medicaid, child daycare, school lunch programs, afterschool programs, education/job training for single mothers..etc. You Republican swine-scum, defund it all and leave these single moms and their babies fending for themselves, without the assistance that they need. So it's you who are the death cultists, the pro-death vermin, not the socialists, who want all single mothers and their actual babies, to have access to resources, which you want to deprive them of, as the right-wing conservative scumbag that you are. Pig go to hell, with Trump your master. Kamala is going to kick his ass next month.

Forcing? It’s a choice

 

[jc456]

You dumbass, DNA doesn't amount to a human being. The actual human being is the pregnant woman, who is carrying the zygote or embryo, the brainless fetus, who doesn't even have the organs to be conscious. You self-righteous, religious assholes, are the first ones to lend unconditional support to Israhell, in its genocidal bombing campaign in Gaza. You don't care how many actual babies and children are ripped to pieces by American ordinance or how many babies and children starve to death in Gaza. Thousands of children were buried alive, under the rubble, crushed by heavy, burning concrete, crying for their parents and siblings, dying a slow, painful death. That's your idea of pro-life.

You're the hypocrite champions of fetuses, crying for zygotes and embryos in other people's uteruses while actual babies and children are being slaughtered in Gaza and here in America babies are struggling to live a decent life due to you right-wing scum defunding the government social programs that provision them with the resources they need. You're a slimy, repulsive pig.

So again, are you suggesting a fetus isn’t human? What else is it?

 

[TruthNotBS]

So again, are you suggesting a fetus isn’t human? What else is it?

You retard, just because something is human doesn't make it a HUMAN BEING. If you extract an organ out of your body or one cell, that completely has your DNA, that in and of itself, doesn't amount to a HUMAN BEING. A zygote, embryo, or half-brained fetus, attached to a woman's uterus (attached to an actual human being = the pregnant woman), isn't a human being. It's the pregnant woman, who is the actual human being, and she should possess the right to end HER PREGNANCY, especially when that pregnancy is identified early. She has sovereignty over her womb and uterus, her body. You want to violate her sovereignty using the government which you were griping about for mandating that you wear a mask in public during a deadly pandemic. You disgusting hypocrites.

"The government doesn't have a right to force me to wear a mask in crowded, public venues, in the middle of a deadly, nationwide pandemic..blah blah blah.."

Now you turn around and use that same government to deprive women of their reproductive sovereignty over their uteruses, and their bodies? You were so indignant against the government mandating you wear a mask on YOUR FACE, and now you want to wield the government to force women to remain pregnant for nine months, bearing the many risks and costs of pregnancy? You holy hollers are a bunch of hypocrites. Where will you be when she loses her job due to her pregnancy or she can't qualify for Medicaid, due to conservative, Republican assholes like you defunding Medicaid in her state, making it difficult for the poor to qualify? Will you be there to help her? You self-righteous, religious holy-rollers are the swine of the Earth. Manure.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Forcing? It’s a choice

How is it a choice if she can't receive the medical care that she needs in her state, due to conservative holy-roller assholes like you, barring her access to that medical care? She's forced to travel to another state, and risk losing her job, she needs to spend maybe $1000 or more to receive medical care in another state. You have no right to strip that woman of her reproductive rights, or control her uterus. Your false concern for fetuses is pathetic. Crying for zygotes and embryos:

While supporting genocide in Gaza. ​

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Men have been forced to watch our offspring slaughtered for over half a century now.

So there’s that.

How many care and how many breathe a sigh of relief?

 

[jc456]

How is it a choice if she can't receive the medical care that she needs in her state, due to conservative holy-roller assholes like you, barring her access to that medical care? She's forced to travel to another state, and risk losing her job, she needs to spend maybe $1000 or more to receive medical care in another state. You have no right to strip that woman of her reproductive rights, or control her uterus. Your false concern for fetuses is pathetic. Crying for zygotes and embryos:

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While supporting genocide in Gaza. ​

Who guarantees that?

Isn’t the Mayo Clinic in one state?

 

[jc456]

You retard, just because something is human doesn't make it a HUMAN BEING. If you extract an organ out of your body or one cell, that completely has your DNA, that in and of itself, doesn't amount to a HUMAN BEING. A zygote, embryo, or half-brained fetus, attached to a woman's uterus (attached to an actual human being = the pregnant woman), isn't a human being. It's the pregnant woman, who is the actual human being, and she should possess the right to end HER PREGNANCY, especially when that pregnancy is identified early. She has sovereignty over her womb and uterus, her body. You want to violate her sovereignty using the government which you were griping about for mandating that you wear a mask in public during a deadly pandemic. You disgusting hypocrites.

"The government doesn't have a right to force me to wear a mask in crowded, public venues, in the middle of a deadly, nationwide pandemic..blah blah blah.."

Now you turn around and use that same government to deprive women of their reproductive sovereignty over their uteruses, and their bodies? You were so indignant against the government mandating you wear a mask on YOUR FACE, and now you want to wield the government to force women to remain pregnant for nine months, bearing the many risks and costs of pregnancy? You holy hollers are a bunch of hypocrites. Where will you be when she loses her job due to her pregnancy or she can't qualify for Medicaid, due to conservative, Republican assholes like you defunding Medicaid in her state, making it difficult for the poor to qualify. You self-righteous, religious holy-rollers are the swine of the Earth. Manure.

What else does a human being but a human being? Odd

 

[TruthNotBS]

What else does a human being but a human being? Odd

A human being is a liver? A liver is a human being? It's a human liver, but it's not a human being. If you have a human heart being preserved, to be transplanted in another person, is that heart a HUMAN BEING? No. It's a human heart, but it's not a human being. There's a lot more to being a human being than DNA. Just because something has human DNA, doesn't make it a human being. There are animals today, that have human DNA, even plants. They're created in labs by scientists, but that doesn't make a mouse that possesses human DNA, a human being. There's a lot more to being a human BEING, than DNA. A zygote, an embryo, a half-brained fetus, isn't a human being, it's a potential human being.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Who guarantees that?

Isn’t the Mayo Clinic in one state?

Who guarantees what? What are you talking about? Explain, elaborate, and write more than half a sentence.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

A human being is a liver? A liver is a human being? It's a human liver, but it's not a human being. If you have a human heart being preserved, to be transplanted in another person, is that heart a HUMAN BEING? No. It's a human heart, but it's not a human being. There's a lot more to being human than DNA. Just because something has human DNA, doesn't make it a human being. There are animals today, that have human DNA, even plants. They're created in labs by scientists, but that doesn't make a mouse that possesses human DNA, a human being. There's a lot more to being a human BEING, than DNA.

You are very wrong. A zygote or a fetus is a stage of development of an adult human being. Like an infant, or a toddler. A toddler is not a liver. A teenager isn't a plant containing human cells. Both, like a fetus, or zygote are human beings in a stage of maturation.

 

[TruthNotBS]

You are very wrong. A zygote or a fetus is a stage of development of an adult human being. Like an infant, or a toddler. A toddler is not a liver. A teenager isn't a plant containing human cells. Both, like a fetus, or zygote are human beings in a stage of maturation.

The fact that a zygote, embryo, or half-brained fetus can potentially become a human being if the pregnant woman (the actual human being), allows it to mature and gestate in her body, doesn't give it a right to actualize itself into a human being, at her expense. Early in pregnancy, she should have the right to end her pregnancy, and not be forced by EvilCat Breath, to remain pregnant. You don't have the right to force her to remain pregnant, bearing the many risks and cost of pregnancy. You right-wing holy-rollers, who don't really give a hoot about actual babies, and are just pretending you care about fetuses in the wombs of strangers, should stop imposing your religious beliefs on others, via government mandate.

You right-wing conservatives are the first ones, to support whatever the Jewish Zionist State does to the children of Gaza, the West Bank, or Lebanon. You don't care, yet you care about fetuses in the wombs of strangers? You're a hypocrite. Concern yourself with your own fetus, and stop unjustly intruding on other people's lives.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The fact that a zygote, embryo, or half-brained fetus can potentially become a human being if the pregnant woman (the actual human being), allows it to mature and gestate in her body, doesn't give it a right to actualize itself into a human being, at her expense. Early in pregnancy, she should have the right to end her pregnancy, and not be forced by EvilCat Breath, to remain pregnant. You don't have the right to force her to remain pregnant, bearing the many risks and cost of pregnancy. You right-wing holy-rollers, who don't really give a hoot about actual babies, and are just pretending you care about fetuses in the wombs of strangers, should stop imposing your religious beliefs on others, via government mandate.

You right-wing conservatives are the first ones, to support whatever the Jewish Zionist State does to the children of Gaza, the West Bank, or Lebanon. You don't care, yet you care about fetuses in the wombs of strangers? You're hypocrites.

There's no potentially about it. The zygote will proceed through all levels of development unless it is killed. We are handling the entire issue of abortion all wrong. The essential issue is that women neither love nor value their children. Yet they cannot control their reproduction. We don't let animals go through this, and they do love their children. They only solution is a spay program for women who have no control over themselves.