Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women. Their failed arguments are examined here:

[HeyNorm]

you are a liar. The words, baby and feet are not interchangeable. When referring to a fetus as a baby, you have to qualify it by saying “unborn“ baby.. that is a fact.

That you are a liar is a fact.

You might have to, to justify your barbarism, I certainly don’t.

 

[DGS49]

All of the Democrat arguments for unregulated abortion are based on a false presumption: the presumption that pregnancy just happens, like skin cancer or a heart murmur. It is presumed (but not openly stated) that the woman didn't actually do anything to cause it to occur. This is manifestly not the case. A woman who does not wish to become pregnant has a cornucopia of ways of avoiding it, starting with not fucking a man who is poor Daddy Material. I need not list the rest of them here.

The rational argument against ALL abortion is that once an egg is fertilized and in the womb, it is a biological person. Every biological trait is fixed at that point, including gender, eye color, general health and so on. One does not kill any person for reasons of convenience, economics, or vanity.

Furthermore, it makes no sense to discuss the extreme cases (rape, incest, threat to the mother's life) unless one has already conceded the point that as a general proposition, abortion is morally unacceptable. Otherwise, what do those extreme circumstances matter?

 

[Papageorgio]

Early in the pregnancy, they're not human beings or babies, but you're too stupid to realize that.

When it becomes a life it becomes a person. Science tells you that.

When Does Personhood Begin? :: News & Events :: Swarthmore College

Howard A. Schneiderman Professor of Biology Scott Gilbert admits he can't answer the question he poses at the start of his popular talk. However, he adds with "absolute certainty" that there is also "no consensus among scientists."

www.swarthmore.edu

At the point of conception or 14 days which ever you decide, science is correct at, at that point we have a human life, a human being, with separate cells, RNA, DNA, a separate organism a life in a woman’s body.

So you need to let the people in the link know they are stupid. But I am not against taking an unborn baby’s life, what is you objection to me not caring if you take an unborn baby’s life?

 

[Papageorgio]

Criminalizing a woman's right to end her pregnancy is the problem. You right-wingers are control freaks.

Where did I say I wanted to criminalize the killing of an unborn baby? I agree with you that you can decide to kill your unborn baby, not seeing your argument. Seems comprehension is a problem for you.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

When it becomes a life it becomes a person.

It may become expectant mother’s “person“ should she choose to continue with gestation to full term; but to the rest of society who at 14 days has no fucking idea that there is a “person“ beginning to develop inside a woman’s body.

Science tells us that at 14 days following conception, the embryo has zero consciousness. We human beings are at the top of the animal kingdom because of our almighty brains. Brains, that some say is made in the image of God and therefore human beings have an obligation to respect the sanctity of life of all other human beings.

At 14 days in a pregnant woman’s biological make up there is only one consciousness and mind/brain in operation. That truth makes your personal belief that there are two persons inside a pregnant woman’s body at 14 days, completely irrational and an unjustifiable rationalization on your part. It is wrong. It defies science and reason. It defies morality when you use that argument to cause women to die as the two women in Georgia who died due to white Christian nationalist Republican abortion bans. You killed them Saint Papageorgio.

How can you live with yourself? Why do you want to kill women if they end up in an unwanted pregnancy?

 

[Papageorgio]

It may become expectant mother’s “person“ should she choose to continue with gestation to full term; but to the rest of society who at 14 days has no fucking idea that there is a “person“ beginning to develop inside a woman’s body.

Science tells us that at 14 days following conception, the embryo has zero consciousness. We human beings are at the top of the animal kingdom because of our almighty brains. Brains, that some say is made in the image of God and therefore human beings have an obligation to respect the sanctity of life of all other human beings.

At 14 days in a pregnant woman’s biological make up there is only one consciousness and mind/brain in operation. That truth makes your personal belief that there are two persons inside a pregnant woman’s body at 14 days, completely irrational and an unjustifiable rationalization on your part. It is wrong. It defies science and reason. It defies morality when you use that argument to cause women to die as the two women in Georgia who died due to white Christian nationalist Republican abortion bans. You killed them Saint Papageorgio.

How can you live with yourself? Why do you want to kill women if they end up in an unwanted pregnancy?

Again you lie, I have said over and over St. Stupid, you can kill your unborn baby and according to science St Stupid the fetus is a human, a person whether a woman chooses to keep or kill.

Please quit lying about what I say, you are a very dishonest, deceptive asshole or you are just to dumb to comprehend what you read.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

, I have said over and over St. Stupid, you can kill your unborn baby

and I will have to say over and over again that I do not want to kill any babies born or unborn anymore than the entire fucking Republican party wants to kill babies. Killing babies is nothing but your hate speech against those politically do not agree with. There is no rationality to your argument. And I have never argued agaibst the science you keep bringing up that fetus is a human.. of course the fetus is human.

You want to kill babies if you say I want to kill babies. Difference between me and you is I will protect the rights of women who have been born the political party you vote for and put an office to kill women.

It’s not about killing babies; it’s about killing women and you just have to run from the reality that you are willing to vote for the Republican white Christianized political party that is killing women. My votes do not kill women and you don’t know how to deal with the truth of all that.

you need to learn to think about the repercussions what you do and say woman killer.

 

[Papageorgio]

and I will have to say over and over again that I do not want to kill any babies born or unborn anymore than the entire fucking Republican party wants to kill babies. Killing babies is nothing but your hate speech against those politically do not agree with. There is no rationality to your argument. And I have never argued agaibst the science you keep bringing up that fetus is a human.. of course the fetus is human.

You want to kill babies if you say I want to kill babies. Difference between me and you is I will protect the rights of women who have been born the political party you vote for and put an office to kill women.

It’s not about killing babies; it’s about killing women and you just have to run from the reality that you are willing to vote for the Republican white Christianized political party that is killing women. My votes do not kill women and you don’t know how to deal with the truth of all that.

you need to learn to think about the repercussions what you do and say woman killer.

I am not using hate speech. I am brutally honest about what happens, seems you don’t like hearing the truth. I killed no one, I am not a Republican and I agree with you killing unborn babies, what is the issue?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I am not using hate speech

You certainly are using hate speed Saint Papageorgio. You are using hate speech, political hate speech every time you accuse me of “wanting to kill babies”. I do not “want” to kill babies any more than I believe you “want” to kill babies. But you are applying that specific hate speech to justify voting for white Christian nationalist Republican politicians who ban abortions and therefore kill women.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I killed no one

Have you ever voted for a Republicans senator or Rep or governor or any other Republican state elected official?

If you did, you’re an accomplice to the killing of the two women in Georgia who recently died due to the states abortion band.

But you don’t live in Georgia.

But if you voted for a Republican Senator or president in the past 50 years You had a hand in overturning Roe versus Wade and you killed the women who died in Georgia.

 

[Papageorgio]

You certainly are using hate speed Saint Papageorgio. You are using hate speech, political hate speech every time you accuse me of “wanting to kill babies”. I do not “want” to kill babies any more than I believe you “want” to kill babies. But you are applying that specific hate speech to justify voting for white Christian nationalist Republican politicians who ban abortions and therefore kill women.

Staint Stupid again I don’t mind if you kill babies, how is that hateful? You go around calling me a Republican white nationalist and accuse me of personally killing women, and that isn’t hateful? Hypocrite!

Name one person that I have voted for that was for banning abortions.

 

[Papageorgio]

Have you ever voted for a Republicans senator or Rep or governor or any other Republican state elected official?

If you did, you’re an accomplice to the killing of the two women in Georgia who recently died due to the states abortion band.

But you don’t live in Georgia.

But if you voted for a Republican Senator or president in the past 50 years You had a hand in overturning Roe versus Wade and you killed the women who died in Georgia.

Spare me, a conservative court decided Rove v Wade, Democrats you voted for for 50 plus years did nothing to codify into to law legal abortion and despite the fact that Democrats at times had majorities in Jouse and Senate, also held the Executive Office did not present one piece of legislation to legalize abortion. The reason Democrats didn’t do you right was because they used abortion as a wedge issue and pretty told you to F off. Now that it is overturned you want to blame Republicans? What did any Congressional Republican vote for that banned abortions? Your Democrats failed you, go bitch to them because they flat out screwed you.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Human beings, not invisible beings from another dimension, decide what their rights are. It's we, the people, who do that. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Unborn children are human beings that exist in this dimension too. Wake up and smell the beauty of life.

My argument isn't purely religious. In fact, I can easily take the religious aspect out of it and still demonstrate how demonstrably immoral and inhumane your pro-abortion argument is.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Early in the pregnancy, they're not human beings or babies, but you're too stupid to realize that.

Two sets of human DNA, one from the male, and one from the female, make it human no matter the stage of development.

But you're too stupid and biased to see the science.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Criminalizing a woman's right to end her pregnancy is the problem. You right-wingers are control freaks.

Trump already said he would veto a straight-up ban. Nobody's trying to criminalize anything.

You left-wingers are death cultists.

 

[TemplarKormac]

If you did, you’re an accomplice to the killing of the two women in Georgia who recently died due to the states abortion band

You know that's a lie. The abortion law had nothing to do with why they died.

What Caused the Tragic Deaths of Two Georgia Women?

A left-leaning media outlet recently publicized the heartbreaking stories of two Georgia women who died following failed abortions. Amber Thurman, 28 years old and nine weeks pregnant with twins, was

www.realclearhealth.com

FACT CHECK: Did 2 Women Die Because of Georgia’s Abortion Law?

Shocking headlines portrayed the deaths of two women incorrectly, blaming a new Georgia law that had nothing to do with their tragic deaths.

www.dailysignal.com

The pills they took were the cause. Their failure to completely induce abortion left parts of the unborn children in their uteruses, causing one to die before the doctors could do anything, while the other died because she didn't want to go to the hospital to have the same procedure done.

THE FACTS: The two women died after seeking chemical abortions, but there is no evidence that the state’s abortion ban is to blame for Thurman’s death or that her doctors faced penalties for treating her.

In 2019, Georgia passed a law banning abortion after six weeks gestation, approximately when fetal cardiac activity can be detected via ultrasound, a measure intended to take immediate effect when Roe was overturned.

But Thurman was approximately nine weeks pregnant with twins when she traveled to a North Carolina abortion clinic, where she was given mifepristone and misoprostol to take at home.

Five days after taking the abortion agent misoprostol, which induces contractions to expel the pregnancy tissue, Thurman presented at the emergency room on a stretcher with heavy bleeding, vomiting, foul-smelling vaginal discharge, critically elevated white blood cell count, and dropping blood pressure.

Thurman waited three hours before being administered antibiotics and more than 20 hours to receive a dilation and curettage, which involves dilating the patient’s cervix and surgically removing the remaining pregnancy tissue by scraping the inside of the uterus. But by that point, her organs had already begun to shut down, and she died on the operating table.

ProPublica cited a review committee that ruled that her death was preventable and that she might have survived if she had been provided with a D&C earlier.

But the provision of the D&C would not have been illegal under the state’s law. In Thurman’s case, ultrasound confirmed that both of her twins were already deceased by the time she had reached the hospital, according to medical reports. That means that any heartbeat provision in the state law preventing a D&C of viable fetuses would not have applied.

ProPublica did not cite any experts blaming the law for the death of Thurman. Anti-abortion doctors and legal experts have said that the law did not prevent her from receiving treatment.

Dr. Christina Francis, CEO of the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists, told reporters before Harris’s speech that the signs Thurman presented with “would indicate a very severe bacterial infection.”

“In the setting of an induced abortion, the physician seeing her must suspect incomplete abortion,” Francis said. “In fact, any first year OB resident would be able to make that diagnosis, given those symptoms.”

The care necessary to treat Thurman’s severe infection would have been, according to Francis and her colleague, Dr. Ingrid Skopp, also an OB/GYN and and anti-abortion advocate, to quickly administer antibiotics and perform a D&C.

Katie Daniel, state policy director for SBA Pro-Life America, told reporters ahead of Harris’s speech that the argument that Georgia’s abortion ban caused these preventable deaths is “flatly false.”

“Georgia bans procedures that cause the death of an unborn child whose heart is beating without a lawful justification,” Daniel said. “It did not ban any particular procedure. A D&C can always be performed if it is medically indicated to treat miscarriages or to treat abortion complications.”

Fact check: Harris blames woman's death on Georgia abortion law - Washington Examiner

Vice President Kamala Harris referenced the case of Amber Nicole Thurman during a campaign event in Georgia about abortion rights.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Don't lie. The facts are against you.

 

[ColonelAngus]

I am Conservative and I am ok with abortion up until about 16 weeks at the latest. Of course if the mother is going to die giving birth in month 9…but that is RARE.

Killing a baby on the table just because is savage.

 

[HeyNorm]

please read. I said it was a constitutional issue. As all human rights are.

The unborn ARE human.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The unborn ARE human.

yes, the unborn are human and their rights are under the autonomous rights of the person who is providing temporary life-support for 7 1/2 to 9 months, usually unless there’s a miscarriage on or before 20 weeks.

 

[Slyhunter]

I am Conservative and I am ok with abortion up until about 16 weeks at the latest. Of course if the mother is going to die giving birth in month 9…but that is RARE.

Killing a baby on the table just because is savage.

In month 9 the abortion procedure is to allow the head to come out, then sucking the brains out. If you allow it that far out, it is not that much more risky to pull the rest of it out.