Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women. Their failed arguments are examined here:

[TruthNotBS]

There's no potentially about it. The zygote will proceed through all levels of development unless it is killed. We are handling the entire issue of abortion all wrong. The essential issue is that women neither love nor value their children. Yet they cannot control their reproduction. We don't let animals go through this, and they do love their children. They only solution is a spay program for women who have no control over themselves.

You're reducing human beings to a zygote or embryo? A half-brained fetus? It's the woman who decides whether she remains pregnant or not and you with your false piety and concern for what is attached to a stranger's uterus, should have no right to force anyone to remain pregnant. Especially when right-wing Republicans like you are doing everything they can to defund social programs that help single mothers properly raise their children. You cry about fetuses in the wombs of strangers, while supporting genocide in Gaza. You and your crocodile tears for fetuses.

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[DukeU]

Concern yourself with your own fetus, and stop unjustly intruding on other people's lives.

You first.

 

[TruthNotBS]

You first.

Elaborate.

 

[DukeU]

Elaborate.

You defend a women's "right to choose".

But tell others they have to "stop intruding on others"?

LOL

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You're reducing human beings to a zygote or embryo? A half-brained fetus? It's the woman who decides whether she remains pregnant or not and you with your false piety and concern for what is attached to a stranger's uterus, should have no right to force anyone to remain pregnant. Especially when right-wing Republicans like you are doing everything they can to defund social programs that help single mothers properly raise their children. You cry about fetuses in the wombs of strangers, while supporting genocide in Gaza. You and your crocodile tears for fetuses.

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Like it or not an embryo is a human being at the embryonic stage of development. It's just a biological fact. Your complaint is that women get indiscriminately pregnant . Then they either want the results disposed of or be paid for being sexually indiscriminate as if it was a profession. The problem is the women. They cannot control their biological urges. If they cannot, it must be done for them.

 

[TruthNotBS]

You defend a women's "right to choose".

But tell others they have to "stop intruding on others"?

LOL

I tell you asshole holy-rollers, that you should stop violating people's basic human rights. Me telling you that isn't violating your rights. You should've never had the right to force a woman to remain pregnant, especially when you're not even trying to help her when she gives birth. You want to force women to remain pregnant, bearing all of the risk and cost of pregnancy, while stripping women from having access to the resources that they need to properly raise their children. You pro-lifers are pro-death.

 

[jc456]

A human being is a liver? A liver is a human being? It's a human liver, but it's not a human being. If you have a human heart being preserved, to be transplanted in another person, is that heart a HUMAN BEING? No. It's a human heart, but it's not a human being. There's a lot more to being a human being than DNA. Just because something has human DNA, doesn't make it a human being. There are animals today, that have human DNA, even plants. They're created in labs by scientists, but that doesn't make a mouse that possesses human DNA, a human being. There's a lot more to being a human BEING, than DNA. A zygote, an embryo, a half-brained fetus, isn't a human being, it's a potential human being.

Fetus has a human liver, so the liver in a fetus is human. A fetus is human, you can’t change it

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I tell you asshole holy-rollers, that you should stop violating people's basic human rights. Me telling you that isn't violating your rights. You should've never had the right to force a woman to remain pregnant, especially when you're not even trying to help her when she gives birth. You want to force women to remain pregnant, bearing all of the risk and cost of pregnancy, while stripping women from having access to the resources that they need to properly raise their children. You pro-lifers are pro-death.

Ohhhhhh. You don't like the biological imperative that the female of the species is pregnant and gives birth. Give her the abortion, free. Since she has proved that her behavior belongs In feral cat colony, give a little snippy extra. We can end the WIC and AFDC programs.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Like it or not an embryo is a human being at the embryonic stage of development. It's just a biological fact. Your complaint is that women get indiscriminately pregnant . Then they either want the results disposed of or be paid for being sexually indiscriminate as if it was a profession. The problem is the women. They cannot control their biological urges. If they cannot, it must be done for them.

It depends on how you define a human being. Even the Bible which you pretend is God's word, disagrees with you. Fetuses according to the Bible, aren't independent human beings, with the same rights as the women that carry them. A woman, especially early in the pregnancy, should have a right to end her pregnancy. She's the one who is the actual human being with rights, not the embryo attached to her uterus.

If you're going to force women to remain pregnant, then you better take care of them, when they're pregnant and when they give birth, you should provide them with the resources that they need to properly raise that child. You on the other hand, do the very opposite of that, while pretending you have the right to force women to remain pregnant for nine months and give birth to children they can't afford to raise. The outcome of your politics is actually more death for children, due to your indifference to the welfare of actual children.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Ohhhhhh. You don't like the biological imperative that the female of the species is pregnant and gives birth. Give her the abortion, free. Since she has proved that her behavior belongs In feral cat colony, give a little snippy extra. We can end the WIC and AFDC programs.

Forcing women to remain pregnant and give birth to children they can't afford to raise, is much more expensive than allowing women to abort their pregnancies early before what they have in their wombs is a human being. You can reduce human beings to zygotes and embryos, half-brained fetuses, but most people have enough sense to see that pregnant women aren't carrying babies until later in gestation. In early pregnancy, she's carrying an "it", not a human person. A potential human being.

Even the Bible that you claim is God's word, disagrees with you about fetuses being human beings.

 

[jc456]

I tell you asshole holy-rollers, that you should stop violating people's basic human rights. Me telling you that isn't violating your rights. You should've never had the right to force a woman to remain pregnant, especially when you're not even trying to help her when she gives birth. You want to force women to remain pregnant, bearing all of the risk and cost of pregnancy, while stripping women from having access to the resources that they need to properly raise their children. You pro-lifers are pro-death.

That’s not a human right!

 

[jc456]

It depends on how you define a human being. Even the Bible which you pretend is God's word, disagrees with you. Fetuses according to the Bible, aren't independent human beings, with the same rights as the women that carry them. A woman, especially early in the pregnancy, should have a right to end her pregnancy. She's the one who is the actual human being with rights, not the embryo attached to her uterus.

If you're going to force women to remain pregnant, then you better take care of them, when they're pregnant and when they give birth, you should provide them with the resources that they need to properly raise that child. You on the other hand, do the very opposite of that, while pretending you have the right to force women to remain pregnant for nine months and give birth to children they can't afford to raise. The outcome of your politics is actually more death for children, due to your indifference to the welfare of actual children.

Again, it is. Tough shit for you

 

[TruthNotBS]

That’s not a human right!

It's not, but if you insist that it is, and have so much concern for it, then why are you so loose when it comes to killing babies in Gaza? You like killing those A-rab babies huh? Hypocrite.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Again, it is. Tough shit for you

Why is that?

 

[Slyhunter]

Forcing women to go to another state to end their unwanted pregnancies is indeed criminalizing it in their state. A right-wing pig like you who is pro-genocide in Gaza and supports the US in its economic sanctions:

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Is the true death cultist. The one who violates a woman's sovereignty over her reproductive system, using the heavy hand of government to force women to remain pregnant, even when they identify their pregnancies early is definitely the death cultist. The outcome of unwanted pregnancies, giving birth to children is this:

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Especially in a country where right-wing pigs like you are defunding social programs that help single mothers raise their children. You strip the single moms you forced to remain pregnant and give birth, of their access to vital resources, like housing, food-stamps, Medicaid, child daycare, school lunch programs, afterschool programs, education/job training for single mothers..etc. You Republican swine-scum, defund it all and leave these single moms and their babies fending for themselves, without the assistance that they need. So it's you who are the death cultists, the pro-death vermin, not the socialists, who want all single mothers and their actual babies, to have access to resources, which you want to deprive them of, as the right-wing conservative scumbag that you are. Pig go to hell, with Trump your master. Kamala is going to kick his ass next month.

1. it's murder.
2. If you can't support a kid, don't do the actions that'll create it.
Having sex is not a human right.

 

[Slyhunter]

How is it a choice if she can't receive the medical care that she needs in her state, due to conservative holy-roller assholes like you, barring her access to that medical care? She's forced to travel to another state, and risk losing her job, she needs to spend maybe $1000 or more to receive medical care in another state. You have no right to strip that woman of her reproductive rights, or control her uterus. Your false concern for fetuses is pathetic. Crying for zygotes and embryos:

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she chose to have unprotected sex.

 

[Slyhunter]

Forcing women to remain pregnant and give birth to children they can't afford to raise, is much more expensive than allowing women to abort their pregnancies early before what they have in their wombs is a human being. You can reduce human beings to zygotes and embryos, half-brained fetuses, but most people have enough sense to see that pregnant women aren't carrying babies until later in gestation. In early pregnancy, she's carrying an "it", not a human person. A potential human being.

Even the Bible that you claim is God's word, disagrees with you about fetuses being human beings.

Then don't have sex.

 

[TruthNotBS]

1. it's murder.
2. If you can't support a kid don't do the actions that'll create it.

It's murder according to your religion, but many people disagree with you. I don't believe a zygote, embryo, or half-brained fetus is a human being. I don't reduce human beings to that, I believe there has to be more in place, for there to be a human being. As far as women having sex, that's a natural act, which in a society and culture like ours, is quite difficult to avoid. You can't expect everyone to behave like a monk or nun. People have sex because they feel they have to. Like eating, or going to the bathroom. People feel they have to have sex. Nonetheless, a woman should have sovereignty over her reproductive system or her uterus and the government shouldn't prevent them from ending their pregnancies early.

 

[jc456]

It's not, but if you insist that it is, and have so much concern for it, then why are you so loose when it comes to killing babies in Gaza? You like killing those A-rab babies huh? Hypocrite.

I’m not, I’m for self defense and hamas is killing kids in Gaza.

You have no clue how life functions

 

[EvilCat Breath]

It depends on how you define a human being. Even the Bible which you pretend is God's word, disagrees with you. Fetuses according to the Bible, aren't independent human beings, with the same rights as the women that carry them. A woman, especially early in the pregnancy, should have a right to end her pregnancy. She's the one who is the actual human being with rights, not the embryo attached to her uterus.

If you're going to force women to remain pregnant, then you better take care of them, when they're pregnant and when they give birth, you should provide them with the resources that they need to properly raise that child. You on the other hand, do the very opposite of that, while pretending you have the right to force women to remain pregnant for nine months and give birth to children they can't afford to raise. The outcome of your politics is actually more death for children, due to your indifference to the welfare of actual children.

I never mentioned the Bible. You did. Why? Could it be because without religion as your crutch you have no worthwhile opinion. Which is precisely why you fail to mention any points I have made.

Unless a woman is widowed or abandoned, she should not have her support come from the government. Take the children away. Anything else rewards her for her own poor choices. That is an incentive to engage in even more poor choices.

No one forces a woman to be pregnant. It's a biological function. Engage in behavior A, the biological result is pregnancy B. Spay her. It's the only permanent solution.

If you truly feel that people are so compelled to have sex that they have no control over their urges, this is a sickness, it deserves its own thread.