Republicans deserve what they get

[Anathema]

That's primarily true, but Patriot's still right. Establishment Republicans want to peddle the lie that they are fiscally responsible. But they aren't. It's not just "repercussions." They didn't mean it when they voted to repeal Obamacare, they were just trying to claim a fiscal responsibility they don't have

100% agreement with you. Largely because there are few true Conservative Ideologues left in the entire country, nevermind the political class.

 

[kaz]

That's primarily true, but Patriot's still right. Establishment Republicans want to peddle the lie that they are fiscally responsible. But they aren't. It's not just "repercussions." They didn't mean it when they voted to repeal Obamacare, they were just trying to claim a fiscal responsibility they don't have

100% agreement with you. Largely because there are few true Conservative Ideologues left in the entire country, nevermind the political class.

You need to be a "conservative ideologue" to oppose national healthcare? That's absurd.

BTW, I'm neither a conservative nor an ideologue. I'm a moderate. I want government out of our wallets and our bedrooms so we can make our own choices. I want free speech, freedom to protect ourselves, freedom to run our own lives. Government forcing it's choices on us should be at a minimum

 

[P@triot]

I literally cannot stop laughing at these tools. They are wearing t-shirts that say “I’m Sorry”.

Uh....for what? Being born white? And any self-respecting African-American in the world would rip that crap off of them and yell “nobody wants your pity or your guilt, idiot”.

The first step of being a leftist is self victimization. Think any of those black guys in the photo were ever yoked like that? I'd bet big on no, they haven't

I guarantee they haven’t!

 

[P@triot]

BTW, I'm neither a conservative nor an ideologue. I'm a moderate. I want government out of our wallets and our bedrooms so we can make our own choices. I want free speech, freedom to protect ourselves, freedom to run our own lives. Government forcing it's choices on us should be at a minimum

I don’t want to be the one to bum you out - but those are all tenets of conservatism. Which, by the way, is the epitome of “moderate”. The extreme right-wing (Sovereign Citizens, Anarchists, etc.) want to no government and the extreme left-wing (socialists, facists, etc.) want total government. The only true moderates are conservatives.

 

[P@triot]

I really hope we can make the Republican Party go away and replace it with the Constitution Party.

Three Pillars

 

[kaz]

BTW, I'm neither a conservative nor an ideologue. I'm a moderate. I want government out of our wallets and our bedrooms so we can make our own choices. I want free speech, freedom to protect ourselves, freedom to run our own lives. Government forcing it's choices on us should be at a minimum

I don’t want to be the one to bum you out - but those are all tenets of conservatism. Which, by the way, is the epitome of “moderate”. The extreme right-wing (Sovereign Citizens, Anarchists, etc.) want to no government and the extreme left-wing (socialists, facists, etc.) want total government. The only true moderates are conservatives.

Fiscally that's true, which is why libertarians are fiscally conservative. But there's nothing moderate about morality laws or our over involvement with the military.

For you to say conservatives want government out of our bedrooms is gobbledygook. It's specifically conservatives who want them there

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Guy, if you can't see that your ENEMY is the guy who cancelled your health insurance to put a few more bucks in his pocket, it shows what a tool you are.

The thing is, this race crap started with Goldwater. The only problem is, that it isn't playing for you anymore. You haven't won a fair election since 1988.

And cheating only gets you so far.

So does repeating the same lies over and over again. Eventually people get sick of hearing them.

Brainwashing works though, just look at you. You've been brainwashed by the left and MSM (one of the same) that anytime you lose an election, it's not because of anything you did, it's because the Republicans cheated somehow.

What you don't realize is that you're like a puppet for the Democrat party. They create the lies and you just pass them along. If they ever told you the truth, and that is conservatism is alive and well in this country, it would cause some of you to quit going to the polls on election day. But as long as they convince you that you are always winning no matter what, they keep drawing you in to vote.

Democrats are winning even though they're not. Eight years of Obama corruption, no investigations. Yet with a Republican White House, House and Senate, Democrats got one as soon as Trump took office.

It's pathetic, but Democrats run DC

I wouldn't say they are winning just because they are giving Trump a hard time. The idea that they totally ignored Hil-Liars crimes just shows Americans how crooked the party actually is; how things operate when they're in charge. If you read my earlier post about what's happening in Cleveland these past few months, it's a prime example of typical Democrat leadership.

Trump chose the wrong people to run the show for him. The idea was to turn Chicago DC back to Washington DC, and he did fail at that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Because that's how you divide the country.

There's a huge misconception here. Most normal people would see a problem, such as race relations, and want to fix it. Improve it. Heal wounds. That's the obvious thought for a normal person, and that's what we tend to assume is the goal of any "conversation on race".

But that's not the case. The Regressive Left has zero (0) interest in healing wounds or improving race relations. They're just waiting for demographics to be on their side and it will be payback time. A few of the various minorities in my own family will admit that to you, after a beer or two. The rest haven't bought into the bullshit, thankfully.

Another mistake that is made is looking only at minority demographics. While blacks and browns still represent a total of far less than 50% of the population, remember that they also have most of the Left on their side as well. And the Regressives are so consumed by skin color, White Guilt and self-loathing that they're 100% reliable politically, and will probably put even MORE effort into this than minorities.

This is happening right now. I don't think most of the Right sees it. It's most likely too late, anyway.
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Absolutely correct. It's the Surrender First whites that are going to end this country just like they are doing in Europe as we speak.

Most whites don't know what it's like to be a minority. I know what that's like because I live in a (now) black community. They actually believe that it will be just like living with other whites, only people with different color skin. Nothing could be further from the truth.

But you can't tell know-it-all liberals anything because they (in their minds) are never wrong. When they have no experience at something, they read about it and figure they are now an expert on the subject.

The Right has brought this on itself in many ways, though. This has been a patient, multi-generational effort by the Left that is about to bear fruit. The Right has convinced itself that reaching out to minorities was simply not an option, while the Left has essentially cornered the market.

I can understand the notion that the Right doesn't want to divide people into little grievance groups like the Left has. It's cynical, it's terribly manipulative and it's intellectually dishonest. But the fact remains, that's what it would take at this point, that's what they are conditioned to respond to.

The Right refused. Okay. So, here it comes.
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Nothing is coming. In the past decade or so, we took leadership of Congress, the Senate and won the White House plus 2/3 of the governorships across the country.

The Democrat party has become the anti-white party. It's their prime goal to make whites a minority in this country ASAP, and I think more whites are waking up to the fact.

Don't expect change anytime soon. And let's remember that not all minorities vote Democrat. The Democrats get the most votes from each of those groups, but they still have a way to go before they turn this country into a single-party government. And when that happens, the Great Experiment will be over. We will soon be another Socialist shithole like the many around the world.

Well, we'll see. November may tell us a lot.
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If the Democrats regain leads in anything in Nov, it would only tell us of the ability of the MSM to control the minds of the voters.

What could they possibly object to? The economy which is doing great? Our immigration problem which has greatly improved since Trump took office? Our stock market which is strong and predicted to be even stronger in the future? Keeping more of your own money? The highest consumer and corporate confidence ratings in decades? What would they be voting out?

When people want to change something, it's usually for the better. What can be better in this country than what's going on today?

 

[kaz]

Guy, if you can't see that your ENEMY is the guy who cancelled your health insurance to put a few more bucks in his pocket, it shows what a tool you are.

The thing is, this race crap started with Goldwater. The only problem is, that it isn't playing for you anymore. You haven't won a fair election since 1988.

And cheating only gets you so far.

So does repeating the same lies over and over again. Eventually people get sick of hearing them.

Brainwashing works though, just look at you. You've been brainwashed by the left and MSM (one of the same) that anytime you lose an election, it's not because of anything you did, it's because the Republicans cheated somehow.

What you don't realize is that you're like a puppet for the Democrat party. They create the lies and you just pass them along. If they ever told you the truth, and that is conservatism is alive and well in this country, it would cause some of you to quit going to the polls on election day. But as long as they convince you that you are always winning no matter what, they keep drawing you in to vote.

Democrats are winning even though they're not. Eight years of Obama corruption, no investigations. Yet with a Republican White House, House and Senate, Democrats got one as soon as Trump took office.

It's pathetic, but Democrats run DC

I wouldn't say they are winning just because they are giving Trump a hard time. The idea that they totally ignored Hil-Liars crimes just shows Americans how crooked the party actually is; how things operate when they're in charge. If you read my earlier post about what's happening in Cleveland these past few months, it's a prime example of typical Democrat leadership.

Trump chose the wrong people to run the show for him. The idea was to turn Chicago DC back to Washington DC, and he did fail at that.

It's not just the investigations. No repeal of Obamacare, no wall. Way insufficient tax cut and we still have a repatriation of money tax that no other western power does to their corporations. Democrats are still obstructing judicial appointments. Republicans could eliminate the filibuster and end all that stupid crap, and don't. Democrats will when they get power back, just like they always do.

Judicial filibusters were created by Democrats under W. Then eliminated by Democrats under Obama.

They created SCOTUS filibusters under W and left them because Obama couldn't use them.

They changed the Senate rules to get Obamacare through. They constantly changed voting rules under Tip O'Neill.

Democrats are clearly going to end the filibuster when it suits them at this point. They're permanently set on maximum hysteria. But the useless hack McConnell keeps in there anyway thwarting Trump's agenda.

Yeah, it's a Democrat run town and always has been in my life

 

[sartre play]

How come no one considers the possibility that both left & right thinking people have some good ideas? how could it possibly be that all the good ideas come from just a devotion to one political brand, haven't both party's made some good choices & some bad ones, do we only look at the bad choices when its the other party? what do we want America to become? give up thinking we can go back to 1890 or 1960. there is no going back.

 

[Anathema]

You need to be a "conservative ideologue" to oppose national healthcare? That's absurd.

No. Of course not. However, if you aren't a Conservative ideologue, with an extensive track record of practicing what you preach, I'm not hanging my hat on the guarantee that you're going to vote against socialized medicine.

BTW, I'm neither a conservative nor an ideologue. I'm a moderate. I want government out of our wallets and our bedrooms so we can make our own choices. I want free speech, freedom to protect ourselves, freedom to run our own lives. Government forcing it's choices on us should be at a minimum

I am an Ultra-Conservative AND an Ideologue. Very close to the edge of being an Authoritarian. I do not, never have, and never will believe that Freedom supersedes Morals and Values. Those Morals and Values are the constraining limits to Freedom and Liberty in my mind and always should be so far as I'm concerned.

 

[Anathema]

give up thinking we can go back to 1890 or 1960. there is no going back.

Then I'm all for nuking the entire place and calling it a day.

 

[Anathema]

I really hope we can make the Republican Party go away and replace it with the Constitution Party.

Three Pillars

The problem is that I can only fully get behind the first pillar. I have some pretty serious issues with the naiveté of the second pillar and honestly I could not care any less about the third.

 

[kaz]

You need to be a "conservative ideologue" to oppose national healthcare? That's absurd.

No. Of course not. However, if you aren't a Conservative ideologue, with an extensive track record of practicing what you preach, I'm not hanging my hat on the guarantee that you're going to vote against socialized medicine.

You could count on libertarians to vote against national healthcare ... if there were any of us in national office, LOL ...

BTW, I'm neither a conservative nor an ideologue. I'm a moderate. I want government out of our wallets and our bedrooms so we can make our own choices. I want free speech, freedom to protect ourselves, freedom to run our own lives. Government forcing it's choices on us should be at a minimum

I am an Ultra-Conservative AND an Ideologue. Very close to the edge of being an Authoritarian. I do not, never have, and never will believe that Freedom supersedes Morals and Values. Those Morals and Values are the constraining limits to Freedom and Liberty in my mind and always should be so far as I'm concerned.

A government without morals or values enforcing morals and values. Yeah, that's something you can rely on ...

 

[Anathema]

You could count on libertarians to vote against national healthcare ... if there were any of us in national office, LOL

Not really sure I want the support of people who believe in legalizing weed, but thanks anyway.

A government without morals or values enforcing morals and values. Yeah, that's something you can rely on ...

Which is why I believe this Government needs to be totally broken down and the entire system reworked, from scratch.

 

[kaz]

You could count on libertarians to vote against national healthcare ... if there were any of us in national office, LOL

Not really sure I want the support of people who believe in legalizing weed, but thanks anyway.

Don't worry. I don't support you. I just oppose national healthcare

A government without morals or values enforcing morals and values. Yeah, that's something you can rely on ...

Which is why I believe this Government needs to be totally broken down and the entire system reworked, from scratch.

And corruption is the nature of government. Name a government in the history of man worthy of regulating our morals and values

 

[Fang]

Trying to make people feel ashamed for being white is so 2008...

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Sounds good to me!

 

[Anathema]

Don't worry. I don't support you...

You could have stopped right there.

And corruption is the nature of government. Name a government in the history of man worthy of regulating our morals and values

There isn't one. That's the nature of human beings. Which is why we need to create a form of Government which removes as much of the human fallibility element as possible.

 

[Mac1958]

There's a huge misconception here. Most normal people would see a problem, such as race relations, and want to fix it. Improve it. Heal wounds. That's the obvious thought for a normal person, and that's what we tend to assume is the goal of any "conversation on race".

But that's not the case. The Regressive Left has zero (0) interest in healing wounds or improving race relations. They're just waiting for demographics to be on their side and it will be payback time. A few of the various minorities in my own family will admit that to you, after a beer or two. The rest haven't bought into the bullshit, thankfully.

Another mistake that is made is looking only at minority demographics. While blacks and browns still represent a total of far less than 50% of the population, remember that they also have most of the Left on their side as well. And the Regressives are so consumed by skin color, White Guilt and self-loathing that they're 100% reliable politically, and will probably put even MORE effort into this than minorities.

This is happening right now. I don't think most of the Right sees it. It's most likely too late, anyway.
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Absolutely correct. It's the Surrender First whites that are going to end this country just like they are doing in Europe as we speak.

Most whites don't know what it's like to be a minority. I know what that's like because I live in a (now) black community. They actually believe that it will be just like living with other whites, only people with different color skin. Nothing could be further from the truth.

But you can't tell know-it-all liberals anything because they (in their minds) are never wrong. When they have no experience at something, they read about it and figure they are now an expert on the subject.

The Right has brought this on itself in many ways, though. This has been a patient, multi-generational effort by the Left that is about to bear fruit. The Right has convinced itself that reaching out to minorities was simply not an option, while the Left has essentially cornered the market.

I can understand the notion that the Right doesn't want to divide people into little grievance groups like the Left has. It's cynical, it's terribly manipulative and it's intellectually dishonest. But the fact remains, that's what it would take at this point, that's what they are conditioned to respond to.

The Right refused. Okay. So, here it comes.
.

Nothing is coming. In the past decade or so, we took leadership of Congress, the Senate and won the White House plus 2/3 of the governorships across the country.

The Democrat party has become the anti-white party. It's their prime goal to make whites a minority in this country ASAP, and I think more whites are waking up to the fact.

Don't expect change anytime soon. And let's remember that not all minorities vote Democrat. The Democrats get the most votes from each of those groups, but they still have a way to go before they turn this country into a single-party government. And when that happens, the Great Experiment will be over. We will soon be another Socialist shithole like the many around the world.

Well, we'll see. November may tell us a lot.
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If the Democrats regain leads in anything in Nov, it would only tell us of the ability of the MSM to control the minds of the voters.

What could they possibly object to? The economy which is doing great? Our immigration problem which has greatly improved since Trump took office? Our stock market which is strong and predicted to be even stronger in the future? Keeping more of your own money? The highest consumer and corporate confidence ratings in decades? What would they be voting out?

When people want to change something, it's usually for the better. What can be better in this country than what's going on today?

You're operating under an entirely different mindset than most minorities, and you operate under entirely different priorities than most minorities. And perhaps most importantly, you're completely ignoring the generational conditioning and individual experiences they have had. What they have been steeped in since the day they were born. You really think some temporary facts & figures are going to come within a thousand miles of changing that?

I get it. You think that minorities, after generations of conditioning, should just look at the current stock market and tax rates and confidence polls and change what's in their hearts, what's been in their families' hearts for generations, overnight. You don't think the GOP should have to do anything else.

Well, that's up to you. And that's what the GOP thinks. What I'm saying is that, as demographics continue to change, it won't be nearly enough, and I doubt the GOP will look in the mirror.
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[kaz]

Don't worry. I don't support you...

You could have stopped right there.

And corruption is the nature of government. Name a government in the history of man worthy of regulating our morals and values

There isn't one. That's the nature of human beings. Which is why we need to create a form of Government which removes as much of the human fallibility element as possible.

So what's your plan to accomplish that?

I'm thinking we should be ruled by Guinea Pigs. They are the most friendly creature on the planet.

Of course they eat their own poop, we may have to tweak the plan