Republicans block equal pay measure

[Ravi]

WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans on Wednesday blocked a measure intended to overturn a Supreme Court decision limiting pay discrimination suits in a politically charged vote certain to be replayed in the presidential and Congressional campaigns.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/washington/24cong.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin

 

[midcan5]

That's what republicans do, nothing out of the ordinary. The only surprising thing about this is the people who suffer from their effort to make us a third world nation vote them into office where they next rationalize their social darwinism as essential and sound economics.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

That's what republicans do, nothing out of the ordinary. The only surprising thing about this is the people who suffer from their effort to make us a third world nation vote them into office where they next rationalize their social darwinism as essential and sound economics.

Sure thing.

My take is that people keep electing liberal thieves to office that want to curtail our rights to better " protect" us, steal our money to bribe the lazy and ignorant to vote for them and insist on trying a failed governmental process called socialism.

 

[Shogun]

you made your decision at the threshold of the kitchen, bitch. it can never be equal. deal with it.

 

[Ravi]

Maybe women should form unions and go on strike.

 

[Shogun]

go for it. There are plenty of men ready to get their job back when you do.

 

[Ravi]

go for it. There are plenty of men ready to get their job back when you do.

A woman stole your job? Was she Mexican?

 

[Shogun]

hehehe..

no, not my job.. but do enjoy the unfortunate fact of rationalized unequality.


now take your ass back in the kitchen and make me some pie.

 

[Ravi]

Seriously, what objections do you have to equal pay for equal work?

 

[Shogun]

I don't, personally. But, given your willingness to accept gender based inequality that favors your team I don't have a problem accepting the same for mine.


You can hit play on James Brown's "It's a Man's World" now.

 

[Ravi]

No idea what you're talking about.

I haven't given an opinion on this topic.

 

[Shogun]

i'm talking about your last foray into rationalized inequality from the last abortion thread. You can accept a lopsided world there, so can I here.


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[Ravi]

Oh, that.

I guess this means you'll be pouting forever.

 

[jillian]

go for it. There are plenty of men ready to get their job back when you do.

To get back on topic and away from the continued hissy fit...

you think if I do a job better than a man I should get paid less for it?

Do you understand the decision the bill was trying to rectify?

Just wondering.

 

[Shogun]

hey... turnabout is fairplay.


and, if a company wants to pay you a specific amount that you AGREE to, regardless of the comparable jobs or salaries of other employees of the opposite gender, then you have every opportunity to choose another venue for employment. It's as simple as that. The contract of your labor agreement is irrelevant to the contract that others have made. Crying about equality in the workforce, calling for regulation rather than improving your own worth and merit, is typical but laughable.



talk about penis envy.

 

[Ravi]

I actually agree with you, except for your last statement.

Why should employers be forced to pay a certain salary as long as it is minimum wage or above?

 

[jillian]

hey... turnabout is fairplay.


and, if a company wants to pay you a specific amount that you AGREE to, regardless of the comparable jobs or salaries of other employees of the opposite gender, then you have every opportunity to choose another venue for employment. It's as simple as that. The contract of your labor agreement is irrelevant to the contract that others have made. Crying about equality in the workforce, calling for regulation rather than improving your own worth and merit, is typical but laughable.



talk about penis envy.

Just to back it up some ... that isn't what happened. And who's crying? Is conversation crying? Or do you just think your debate skills are so stellar that they'll reduce me to tears? Yah...that's the ticket...

In the case that the bill would have remedied, the Court stupidly found that a woman couldn't sue for pay disparity that she learned about after many years on the job... and that she could only sue for pay disparity for 180 days prior to the filing of her claim and onward. This was a perversion of the law as it existed prior to Bush's court. This bill tried to remedy the abberation.

But in any event, your rant has nothing to do with anti-discrimination laws which still exist in this country. So either address the actual issue or not, but you sound silly and uninformed.

So luckily your misogynist BS doesn't fly, at least nominally, in the law.



BTW, wanting the law enforced isn't penis envy. Though I think you've got a wicked case of womb envy.

 

[Shogun]

again, HER employment contract was accepted by HER, yes? Was she FORCED to work for unequal pay? nope. We don't have a habit of shackling women to their desks if they can find a better deal OR opportunity. Regardless of "what she learned" later on. Like I said, why make herself WORTH equal pay when, clearly, BITCHING about discrimination works for you?


I do find it rich that you can rationalize bias when it comes to men and pregnancy but women in the workforce? Now THAT is inequality worth fighting!

 

[Dogger]

In the case that the bill would have remedied, the Court stupidly found that a woman couldn't sue for pay disparity that she learned about after many years on the job... and that she could only sue for pay disparity for 180 days prior to the filing of her claim and onward. This was a perversion of the law as it existed prior to Bush's court. This bill tried to remedy the abberation.

Although that decision screwed the female plaintiffs in the particular case, the principles adopted will screw all workers, male and female, if applied to other areas of worker rights and discrimination law.

It wasn't a matter of men v. women, as the misguided myopic misogynistic morons above seem to think, it's a matter of business v. worker, and any worker's boss being able to deliberately break federal law, and getting away with it forever if they can hide their misconduct for six short months.

It's not penis envy, boys. It puts your pecker on the chopping block as well.

 

[jillian]

again, HER employment contract was accepted by HER, yes? Was she FORCED to work for unequal pay? nope. We don't have a habit of shackling women to their desks if they can find a better deal OR opportunity. Regardless of "what she learned" later on. Like I said, why make herself WORTH equal pay when, clearly, BITCHING about discrimination works for you?


I do find it rich that you can rationalize bias when it comes to men and pregnancy but women in the workforce? Now THAT is inequality worth fighting!

Oh, I get it. Shogie's all pissed off that he can't control women's bodies so we're not supposed to get equal pay.

What were you saying about rationalizing?