Corruption by the numbers. Who is more corrupt, Republicans or democrats?

[LA RAM FAN]

This is like arguing who is the worse serial killer Ted Bundy or Jeffery Dahmer.

The best post on this thread,fir once your not trolling,glad I took you off ignore to see what you posted.

this article in the op is such a joke because the facts are Americans have seen the truth the Democrat party that you could be proud of that existed under kennedy and was still a party you could be proud of under carter as well,thst party no longer exists anymore,it has been infiltrated by terrorists,not only thst,thst article is irrelevent because of what’s going on NOW.what’s going on NOW is the facts are THOUSANDS of Americans that were long time supporters of the democrat party fir DECADES mainly because jfk was the greatest president of the 20th century,they have abondoned that party they supported fir decades because of what the democrat party has become now,it has now earned the title of Demonrats because of actions in congress by democrat congressmen and the actions of Clinton,Obama and now Biden whose policys lined with with Warmonger Bush.

not only thst,RFK jr has Said thst the democrat party he was once proud of because of what his uncle accomplished as president,no longer exists anymore and cannot believe what his party has now become and it gets better because that article is irrelevent Because who cares about the past,jesus christ,what’s going on NOW is what’s important and what’s going on NOW is that Biden is the biggest joke president ever in our history and thst the democrat major cities,riots and burning are happening,the Demonrats along with Biden are a danger to america far worse than republicans are so that article is a complete fucking joke.

 

[B. Kidd]

Our Country is in the sewage pipes and has only one more stop to go.
The sewage treatment center. Ouch!! It's gonna hurt!!!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Juicin this asswipe is the biggest troll at usmb,he tries to tell himself that there was no vote fraud in this past election yet says bush stole the election both times.what a fucking dumbass.

thst is correct thst Bush stole the election both times,I have a book thst documents that st home,but only the most retarded people in the world would deny reality biden stole the election from trump,I have taken him to school HUNDREDS of times in the past that there is 10 times much more evidence that this election was the most massive vitiate fraud that ever occurred in American history,that there is ten times greater evidence that there was much more evidence of vote fraud this past election than there ever was against bush and he never even attempts to address the evidence you give him cause jd he knows he cannot counter it.

this troll is a paid shill fir the DNC commmitte,he ignores Biden’s corruption as well that his hero obama lied to the American people that he would end the wars in the Mideast his pal bush started only expanding them.he is also runs off with his tail between his legs that bush wrote up nafta but it never became law until CLinton signed it into office everytime I give documented proof of it.

the ONLY reason he hates trump is because he is not a Democrat,he knows perfectly as well as I do thst if Obama was a Republican,he would hate him and say he ran the most corrrupt administration ever,and if trump was a democrat,he would be calling him the best president ever,that’s what his bosses pay him to do,kiss the asses of the Demonrats and ignore their corruption and lawlessness and focus on the corruption of the republicans.

He loves commie China and hates America.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

My apologies in bringing back an old thread,did not realise it till now

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The best post on this thread,fir once your not trolling,glad I took you off ignore to see what you posted.

this article in the op is such a joke because the facts are Americans have seen the truth the Democrat party that you could be proud of that existed under kennedy and was still a party you could be proud of under carter as well,thst party no longer exists anymore,it has been infiltrated by terrorists,not only thst,thst article is irrelevent because of what’s going on NOW.what’s going on NOW is the facts are THOUSANDS of Americans that were long time supporters of the democrat party fir DECADES mainly because jfk was the greatest president of the 20th century,they have abondoned that party they supported fir decades because of what the democrat party has become now,it has now earned the title of Demonrats because of actions in congress by democrat congressmen and the actions of Clinton,Obama and now Biden whose policys lined with with Warmonger Bush.

not only thst,RFK jr has Said thst the democrat party he was once proud of because of what his uncle accomplished as president,no longer exists anymore and cannot believe what his party has now become and it gets better because that article is irrelevent Because who cares about the past,jesus christ,what’s going on NOW is what’s important and what’s going on NOW is that Biden is the biggest joke president ever in our history and thst the democrat major cities,riots and burning are happening,the Demonrats along with Biden are a danger to america far worse than republicans are so that article is a complete fucking joke.

 

[bripat9643]

Corruption By The Numbers: Republicans Versus Democrats (peacock-panache.com)

This partisan article tries to make the case that Republicans are far more corrupt than democrats. To prove this the author compares criminal indictments of those serving in the executive branch of presidential administrations for the last 25 years, as well as criminal convictions. and prison sentences.

So here is the run down


Obama (D) – 8 yrs in office. Zero criminal indictments, zero convictions and zero prison sentences. So the next time somebody describes the Obama administration as “scandal free” they aren’t speaking wishfully, they’re simply telling the truth.

Bush, George W. (R) – 8 yrs in office. 16 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 9 prison sentences.

Clinton (D) – 8 yrs in office. 2 criminal indictments. One conviction. One prison sentence. That’s right nearly 8 yrs of investigations. Tens of millions spent and 30 yrs of claiming them the most corrupt ever and there was exactly one person convicted of a crime.

Bush, George H. W. (R) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment. One conviction. One prison sentence.

Reagan (R) – 8 yrs in office. 26 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 8 prison sentences.

Carter (D) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment. Zero convictions and zero prison sentences.

Ford (R) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment and one conviction. One prison sentence.

Nixon (R) – 6 yrs in office. 76 criminal indictments. 55 convictions. 15 prison sentences.

Johnson (D) – 5 yrs in office. Zero indictments. Zero convictions. Zero prison sentences.

So is this premise true? I suppose it is if all those Presidents were treated fairly and held to the same standards, but they were not as I shall show.

We shall start with LBJ. There is no controversy over the fact that LBJ stages an attack to launch the US into the Vietnam war. It is referred to as the Gulf of Tonkin incident. Essentially LBJ lied his arse off saying that the Vietnamese attacked the US thus justifying the US entering the conflict. I'm sorry, where is the outrage here in academia, the media, or pretty much anywhere? Are there no laws against staging an attack so you can destroy another nation and send thousands of US Americans to their deaths in a war that left a scar on the American psyche forever? Who was calling for criminal convictions for these lies? In fact, are any crimes as bad as sending hundreds of thousands of men and women and children, on both sides, to their deaths? So where were the checks and balances for the democrat administration? In fact, what has Trump done that was remotely as bad as murdering all of those people? Woops,. Trump was the only President in decades to not start a war. LOL. So where was the press to drive this home and have LBJ removed? I'm sorry, LBJ was a Progressive darling who embraced the Civil Rights Act and implemented his Great Society programs, so he gets a free pass I reckon. You remember the Civil Rights laws, it was the law LBJ said he would have n*ggers voting Democratic for 200 years. And yes, this is the man who continually used the "N" word, yet never is cancelled. No statues are ever torn down of his. Why? Well ask the media and Swamp to refused to ever hold him to account for anything.

The Gulf Of Tonkin Incident: The Lie That Sparked The Vietnam War (allthatsinteresting.com)

President Carter is perhaps a valid example here. Although I don't agree with his politics, the man seemed to have integrity, and as such, the Swamp chewed him up and spat him out in 4 short years. An example of what I'm talking about is Carter's observation that the surveillance state was a threat to US freedom. He then began to take steps to address this such as creating the FISA court. Even the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) that Carter signed in 1978, which seemed to put serious restrictions on the federal government’s surveillance powers, had loopholes that subsequent administrations would exploit to the hilt. Today, the FISA court — which operates entirely in secret, authorizing electronic surveillance and drone strikes completely out of reach of the public eye — approves nearly every request that comes before it, making a mockery of its original purpose. In February, the Supreme Court ruled that no American has any standing to challenge the government’s surveillance powers in court because the very secrecy of the program means that no one can prove that they are being targeted. In fact, the FISA court recently obtained power to go after Trump officials which has been highly controversial in terms of the abuse of power by the Swamp. Sadly, Carter oversaw a deterioration of the nation's economy, with stagflation, and a period where the US was seen as weak internationally with the Iran Hostage crisis. Carter is a conundrum in that, it simply proves that having better moral fiber does not mean you will do a better job. Then again,, can a good man succeed in a corrupt system? Perhaps not.

The Clintons? LOL. Oh, where to begin? Whitewater anyone?
The most egregious form of presidential corruption, however, involves presidential abuse of power as a part of a criminal conspiracy. This was the Watergate scandal that brought about the downfall of Richard Nixon’s presidency. This too is the form of corruption involved in the allegations raised about both President Clinton and his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, in connection with the three major scandals that continue to be investigated by independent prosecutors and Congressional committees: Whitewater, "Travelgate," and "Filegate." Unlike Watergate–the underlying crime of which was, as it has been aptly described, a "third-rate burglary"–Whitewater involves a far more serious underlying crime, the looting of a savings and loan association, that cost American taxpayers approximately $60 million. As in Watergate, however, in Whitewater the critical matter is not the underlying crime but the cover-up. The President and Mrs. Clinton, acting on their own and with their subordinates, are charged with, among other things, withholding relevant and material evidence; making false or misleading statements to the FBI and Congressional investigators; interfering with FBI and Justice Department investigations (including that of the death of White House counsel Vince Foster, who was deeply involved in the Whitewater fraud); obstructing justice by destroying documentary evidence that might be used against them; and willfully disobeying Congressional subpoenas. All of these allegations of wrongdoing are astonishingly similar to those specified in the articles of impeachment drawn up against Richard Nixon in 1974.

Clinton Presidency: The Most Corrupt in American History - Ashbrook

But this is by far my most favorite clip of all time, showing how the FBI allows some people to lie like Hillary, while selectively destroying others like General Flynn for only one supposed lie.

Hillary Clinton vs. James Comey: Email Scandal Supercut - YouTube

And lastly, Barak HUUSANE Obama. Really? Are you really going to try and convince anyone who has followed this corrupt administration to any degree that illegal activity did not occur?


Trump Scandals vs. Obama Scandals: What the Numbers Show
Trump Scandals vs. Obama Scandals: What the Numbers Show | RealClearPolitics
In the closing days of the Obama administration, the press lauded a presidency they asserted had been largely free of scandal. When the White House itself argued it had escaped major scandal over its eight years, the Washington Post’s fact-checker stayed neutral, declining to refute its claims. In contrast, the word “scandal” has become a common refrain in media descriptions of the Trump presidency. Yet a closer look shows that during Barack Obama’s second term, the media used “scandal” to refer to his administration almost as often as they have the Trump administration.
The timeline below shows the number of times that “scandal” or “scandals” or “scandalous” appeared within 15 seconds of a mention of “Obama” or “Trump” on the combined airtime of CNN, MSNBC and Fox News from July 2009 through September 29, 2019, using data from the Internet Archive’s Television News Archive processed by the GDELT Project.
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Immediately clear is that while Obama’s first term was largely free of scandal references, his second term was defined by a steady stream of them.
In late 2011, Operation Fast & Furious captured headlines, followed in April 2012 by the behavior of Secret Service personnel on an overseas trip. The June 2013 Edward Snowden disclosures led to almost twice as many mentions of scandal as any point in the Trump presidency. The May 2014 breaking of the VA health care story saw more mentions of Obama scandal than all but one month of the Trump presidency.

In all, over the past decade, Obama has been mentioned in the context of scandal a total of 6,520 times on the three news channels, compared with 5,103 times for Trump.


Trump Scandals vs. Obama Scandals: What the Numbers Show | RealClearPolitics




So what to take from all this? The media and the Swamp are now only focused on corruption from one side of the isle, if even that. I'm not going to sit here and waste my time defending the GOP because I know for a fact that they have done far worse than what they have been held accountable for as it is. No, my only goal is to perhaps wake a few people up as to the level of corruption that exists, which threatens the freedoms that they think they still have.

Here is a full list of all the Clinton admin criminals:

VARIOUS ARKANSAS:

1) Roger Clinton: Bill Clinton brother; drug trafficking conviction (Wall Street Journal "The Foster Test" January 14, 1994)

2) Dan Lasater: governor Bill Clinton contributor and state contractor: drug trafficking conviction (Wall Street Journal "The Foster Test" January 14, 1994)

3) Dan Harmon: Arkansas Seventh Judicial District prosecuting attorney and Bill Clinton friend and political ally: five federal racketeering, extortion, and drug distribution convictions (Wall Street Journal "Arkansas Justice" June 13, 1997)

4) Bill McCuen: Bill Clinton political ally: former Arkansas Secretary of State; bribery, tax evasion, kickbacks convictions (Wall Street Journal: Whitewater: "The Prosecution Rests" May 7, 1996)

WHITEWATER:

5) Webster Hubbell: Bill Clinton friend and political ally; Hillary Clinton Rose Law Firm partner: embezzlement; fraud; two felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Whither Whitewater?" October 18, 1995)

6) Jim Guy Tucker: fraud; three felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Second-Term Stall" February 11, 1997; Associated Press "Tucker Pleads Guilty to Cable Fraud" February 20, 1998)

7) William J. Marks Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker business partner; one conspiracy conviction (Associated Press "Whitewater Defendant Pleads Guilty" August 28, 1997)

8) Jim McDougal: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend, banker, and political ally: eighteen felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Immunize Hale" May 29, 1996)

9) Susan McDougal: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend; former wife of Jim McDougal: four felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Immunize Hale" May 29, 1996)

10) David Hale: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend, banker, and political ally: two felony convictions of conspiracy and mail fraud (Wall Street Journal "The Arkansas Machine Strikes Back" March 19, 1996)

11) Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker; two felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Hard Evidence From a Federal Investigator" August 10, 1995)

12) Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide; one conviction (Wall Street Journal "Hard Evidence From a Federal Investigator" August 10, 1995)

13) Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent; fraudulent loans (Wall Steet Journal "Hard Evidence From a Federal Investigator" August 10, 1995)

14) Robert Palmer: Madison appraiser; one conspiracy felony conviction (Wall Street Journal "Hale Predicts Hillary Conviction" October 21, 1996)

15) Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president; embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign; two misdemeanor convictions (Wall Street Journal "Arkansas Bank Shot" May 4, 1995)

16) John Latham: Madison Bank CEO; bank fraud conviction (Wall Street Journal "Smoke Without Fire" January 12, 1996)

17) John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker; misdemeanor guilty plea; tax fraud (Associated Press "Tucker Pleads Guilty to Cable Fraud" February 20, 1998)

18) Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant, pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor count of trying to bribe David Hale; is appealing a ten month prison sentence (The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, "Whitewater Defendants" February 22, 1998)

19) Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant, pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts of bribery, served fourteen months of a sixteen month prison sentence (The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, "Whitewater Defendants" February 22, 1998)

ESPY:

20) Tyson Foods: guilty plea; $6 million federal court fines and investigative costs (Washington Post "Tyson Foods Admits Illegal Gifts to Espy" December 30, 1997)

21) Sun-Diamond Growers: $1.5 million fine for illegal campaign contributions to Espy's brother (Associated Press "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

22) Richard Douglas: former Sun-Diamond Growers official; several bribery convictions and guilty pleas(Washington Post "Tyson Foods Admits Illegal Gifts to Espy" December 30, 1997; Associated Press: "Lobbyist Pleads guilty in Espy Case" March 17, 1998)

23) James H. Lake: Sun-Diamond Growers lobbyist; three convictions regarding illegal campaign contributions to Espy's brother (Associated Press "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

24) Ron Blackley: Espy's chief of staff: financial fraud conviction; twenty-seven month prison sentence (Washington Post "Tyson Foods Admits Illegal Gifts to Espy" December 30, 1997; Associated Press: "Judge Sentences Espy Aide to Jail" March 18, 1998)

25) Smith Barney: improper payments to Espy; $1 million-plus fine (Associated Press: "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

26) Crop Growers Corporation: $2 million fine for money laundering to Henry Espy's campaign (Associated Press: "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

27) Brook Keith Mitchell Sr. (with his company Five M Farming Enterprises: four counts) for fraud (Associated Press: "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

28) Five M Farming Enterprises (with owner Brook Keith Mitchell: four counts) for fraud (Associated Press: "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

29) John J. Hemmingson, former head of Crop Growers Corporation: three counts relating to illegal campaign contributions to Henry Espy (Associated Press: "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

30) Alvarez T. Ferrouillet, Jr., Louisiana lawyer and Henry Espy campaign finance head: ten count conviction (Associated Press: "A Look at Mike Espy Investigation" August 27, 1997)

31) Municipal Healthcare Cooperative: Ferrouillet-related company; perjury, bank fraud, money laundering convictions (Washington Post: "Tyson Foods Admits Illegal Gifts to Espy" December 30, 1997)

32) Ferrouillet & Ferrouillet: Ferrouillet-related company; perjury, bank fraud, money laundering convictions (Washington Post: "Tyson Foods Admits Illegal Gifts to Espy" December 30, 1997)

CAMPAIGN FINANCE:

33) Michael Brown (Ron Brown's son): money laundering; misdemeanor conviction (Los Angeles Times, "Ron Brown's Son Pleads Guilty to Illegal Donation" August 29, 1997)

34) Eugene Lum: Clinton/Gore campaign contributor and colleague; felony conviction; money laundering (Los Angeles Times, "First Fund-Raising Sentences Meted Out" September 10, 1997)

35) Nora Lum: Clinton/Gore campaign contributor and colleague; felony conviction; money laundering (Los Angeles Times, "First Fund-Raising Sentences Meted Out" September 10, 1997)

36) Johnny Chung: Clinton/Gore campaign contributor and colleague; many visits to Clinton White House and Oval Office with mainland Chinese associates; several illegal campaign contributions, money laundering, tax fraud, and bank fraud guilty pleas (Associated Press: "Democrat Fund-Raiser Pleads Guilty" March 17, 1998)

37) Roger Tamraz: Clinton/Gore campaign contributor and colleague; many visits to Clinton White House and Oval Office; fugitive from Lebanon embezzlement convictions; target of French government financial investigation; BCCI connections (The Wall Street Journal: "Integrity of the Institutions" March 20, 1997, et. al.) CISNEROS:

38) Linda Jones: Henry Cisneros mistress; conspiracy, bank fraud, money laundering, and obstruction of justice federal felony guilty pleas; sentenced to three and one-half years in prison (Associated Press: "Cisneros Ex-Mistress Sentenced" March 25, 1998)

39) Patsy Jo Wooten: Linda Jones sister; one conspiracy guilty plea (Associated Press: "Cisneros Ex-Mistress Sentenced" March 25, 1998)

40) Allen Wooten: Linda Jones brother-in-law; one conspiracy guilty plea (Associated Press: "Cisneros Ex-Mistress Sentenced" March 25, 1998)

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Do you think Clinton ordered them to do that?

Because Obama ordered them to execute that kid, directly.

All these kill orders went directly through him, although he could have shunted it off to somewhere else he didn't

I doubt clinton signed a kill order on those kids in waco.

No, that was Janet Reno.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Lol ya getting attacked by 100 pound ladies often. Hillarious Strange I have never had that problem. Lol. My God Ronald Reagan and John Wayne gotta be rolling in their graves seeing today's, I don't even know what to call you conservative just don't fit. God help us if this is what the country is like today.

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