Republicans are ignorant about the most basic FACTS about welfare in this country

[Kosh]

Part of the 787 billion stimulus package was a 237 billion tax cut. 100 billion of it went to the middle class.

Economist's View: Tax Cuts and the Stimulus Package

And the far left propaganda just continues on.....

I know facts are scary and inconvenient for you Rightwingers, but reality is what it is.

Since the far left can not post facts, that is what should concern anyone to the right of the far left as they believe propaganda as fact.

 

[Billy000]

And the far left propaganda just continues on.....

I know facts are scary and inconvenient for you Rightwingers, but reality is what it is.

Since the far left can not post facts, that is what should concern anyone to the right of the far left as they believe propaganda as fact.

Ok prove me wrong. What are you waiting for?

 

[Kosh]

I know facts are scary and inconvenient for you Rightwingers, but reality is what it is.

Since the far left can not post facts, that is what should concern anyone to the right of the far left as they believe propaganda as fact.

Ok prove me wrong. What are you waiting for?

Can't prove a negative! Another far left fail.

Then again are you admitting to posting bunk and wanting others to "prove you wrong"?

 

[Stephanie]

Since the far left can not post facts, that is what should concern anyone to the right of the far left as they believe propaganda as fact.

Ok prove me wrong. What are you waiting for?

Can't prove a negative! Another far left fail.

Then again are you admitting to posting bunk and wanting others to "prove you wrong"?

that's the games left play's

He post someone else's material then call Republican the ignorant one's
he nothing more but a shit stirring troll

 

[Andylusion]

Since the far left can not post facts, that is what should concern anyone to the right of the far left as they believe propaganda as fact.

Ok prove me wrong. What are you waiting for?

Can't prove a negative! Another far left fail.

Then again are you admitting to posting bunk and wanting others to "prove you wrong"?

That's the same thing I said. He's a child. He debates like a child.

Child Billy: "Republicans are Satanic"

Everyone else: "... um... no..."

Child Billy: "Oh yeah? Prove me wrong! Prove they are not Satanic!"

Everyone else: .....

He did the same thing in the prior debate. "Republicans are more into subsidizing than Democrats"

Me: "well according to *YOUR LINK*, it shows most of the subsidies are Democrap projects and Liberal causes"

"But you can't PROVE me wrong that Republicans are more into subsidies than Democrats!"

 

[Billy000]

Ok prove me wrong. What are you waiting for?

Can't prove a negative! Another far left fail.

Then again are you admitting to posting bunk and wanting others to "prove you wrong"?

That's the same thing I said. He's a child. He debates like a child.

Child Billy: "Republicans are Satanic"

Everyone else: "... um... no..."

Child Billy: "Oh yeah? Prove me wrong! Prove they are not Satanic!"

Everyone else: .....

He did the same thing in the prior debate. "Republicans are more into subsidizing than Democrats"

Me: "well according to *YOUR LINK*, it shows most of the subsidies are Democrap projects and Liberal causes"

"But you can't PROVE me wrong that Republicans are more into subsidies than Democrats!"

Lol someone is sore aren't they? Shake it off big strong man. You'll get me next time!

 

[Billy000]

Since the far left can not post facts, that is what should concern anyone to the right of the far left as they believe propaganda as fact.

Ok prove me wrong. What are you waiting for?

Can't prove a negative! Another far left fail.

Then again are you admitting to posting bunk and wanting others to "prove you wrong"?

We'll see it is easy to prove if you are right. Tell me exactly what was in the stimulus package. Tell me what exactly made up that 787 billion.

 

[Kosh]

Ok prove me wrong. What are you waiting for?

Can't prove a negative! Another far left fail.

Then again are you admitting to posting bunk and wanting others to "prove you wrong"?

that's the games left play's

He post someone else's material then call Republican the ignorant one's
he nothing more but a shit stirring troll

Well that could be said about all the far left posters on this board as that seems to be their mentality. They post absolute known bunk and expect you to prove them wrong. Even when my kids were two years old they knew better than this.

 

[Andylusion]

Can't prove a negative! Another far left fail.

Then again are you admitting to posting bunk and wanting others to "prove you wrong"?

That's the same thing I said. He's a child. He debates like a child.

Child Billy: "Republicans are Satanic"

Everyone else: "... um... no..."

Child Billy: "Oh yeah? Prove me wrong! Prove they are not Satanic!"

Everyone else: .....

He did the same thing in the prior debate. "Republicans are more into subsidizing than Democrats"

Me: "well according to *YOUR LINK*, it shows most of the subsidies are Democrap projects and Liberal causes"

"But you can't PROVE me wrong that Republicans are more into subsidies than Democrats!"

Lol someone is sore aren't they? Shake it off big strong man. You'll get me next time!

I'm sore? lol....

Are you not reading the other posts on this thread? Every post for the last 35 posts, that hasn't been from you... has been people mocking you, insulting you, and pointing out the stupidity of your statements over and over and over.

Absolutely everyone single person on this thread right now, is laughing at you for being an immature child.

And better still... not one leftist in the has been dumb enough to defend you, or even try and support the idiocy that you have spewed, in several pages.

You realize that the last left-wing post, not from you, and not laughing at you, was near the top of page 12?

And I'm sore? LOL

Yeah yeah fruit bat.... you are getting your butt kicked from every direction, by every poster on this thread..... but in your tiny little world... I'm sore.... Ok lol Are there elves in your world? Seems like there should be elves, and maybe unicorns.

Just keep hitting yourself in the face with that hammer, and repeat "he must be sore" over and over.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

And you're in the party of corrupt hypocrites who don't give a shit about the poor. The democrats are full of shit, but no one is destroying this country like republicans. And come on, it isn't just the poor republicans in congress don't give a shit about, it's the middle class. Tell me what have republicans ever done for the middle class. It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.

It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.

What was this big Obama tax cut?

Part of the 787 billion stimulus package was a 237 billion tax cut. 100 billion of it went to the middle class.

Economist's View: Tax Cuts and the Stimulus Package

Hmmmmm....did anyone get a tax cut? Anyone? I know I didnt.
Surely with this huge tax cut someone here got one....right?

 

[Kosh]

It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.

What was this big Obama tax cut?

Part of the 787 billion stimulus package was a 237 billion tax cut. 100 billion of it went to the middle class.

Economist's View: Tax Cuts and the Stimulus Package

Hmmmmm....did anyone get a tax cut? Anyone? I know I didnt.
Surely with this huge tax cut someone here got one....right?

Maybe he is confusing the Bush taxes (signed by Obama) with the stimulus?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Part of the 787 billion stimulus package was a 237 billion tax cut. 100 billion of it went to the middle class.

Economist's View: Tax Cuts and the Stimulus Package

Hmmmmm....did anyone get a tax cut? Anyone? I know I didnt.
Surely with this huge tax cut someone here got one....right?

Maybe he is confusing the Bush taxes (signed by Obama) with the stimulus?

Since confusion seams to be a constant state with liberals ....yeah probably.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And you're in the party of corrupt hypocrites who don't give a shit about the poor. The democrats are full of shit, but no one is destroying this country like republicans. And come on, it isn't just the poor republicans in congress don't give a shit about, it's the middle class. Tell me what have republicans ever done for the middle class. It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.

It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.

What was this big Obama tax cut?

Part of the 787 billion stimulus package was a 237 billion tax cut. 100 billion of it went to the middle class.

Economist's View: Tax Cuts and the Stimulus Package

The Bush tax cuts were much larger, and longer lasting, than Obama's temporary cuts.

 

[Billy000]

It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.

What was this big Obama tax cut?

Part of the 787 billion stimulus package was a 237 billion tax cut. 100 billion of it went to the middle class.

Economist's View: Tax Cuts and the Stimulus Package

The Bush tax cuts were much larger, and longer lasting, than Obama's temporary cuts.

Yes you're right. It was much larger mostly for the wealthy. But gues what? Tax cuts for the wealthy only help the wealthy. Trickle down economics is a lie. How do we know? Because those cuts only stimulate supply. They do very little to stimulate demand. As a result, they have no economic effects. Obama has created more private jobs in his 5 years than in Bush's 8 years. The stimulus created or saved 2.5 million jobs. Not just trough cuts, but also demand.

 

[Kosh]

Part of the 787 billion stimulus package was a 237 billion tax cut. 100 billion of it went to the middle class.

Economist's View: Tax Cuts and the Stimulus Package

The Bush tax cuts were much larger, and longer lasting, than Obama's temporary cuts.

Yes you're right. It was much larger mostly for the wealthy. But gues what? Tax cuts for the wealthy only help the wealthy. Trickle down economics is a lie. How do we know? Because those cuts only stimulate supply. They do very little to stimulate demand. As a result, they have no economic effects. Obama has created more private jobs in his 5 years than in Bush's 8 years. The stimulus created or saved 2.5 million jobs. Not just trough cuts, but also demand.

Oh my the far left propaganda just continues on....

I mean seriously why does the far left post this known bunk?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Part of the 787 billion stimulus package was a 237 billion tax cut. 100 billion of it went to the middle class.

Economist's View: Tax Cuts and the Stimulus Package

The Bush tax cuts were much larger, and longer lasting, than Obama's temporary cuts.

Yes you're right. It was much larger mostly for the wealthy. But gues what? Tax cuts for the wealthy only help the wealthy. Trickle down economics is a lie. How do we know? Because those cuts only stimulate supply. They do very little to stimulate demand. As a result, they have no economic effects. Obama has created more private jobs in his 5 years than in Bush's 8 years. The stimulus created or saved 2.5 million jobs. Not just trough cuts, but also demand.

Much larger for the middle class.

Trickle down economics is a lie. How do we know? Because those cuts only stimulate supply.

Supply=GDP

The stimulus created or saved 2.5 million jobs

LOL! I heard it was 25 million.

 

[Andylusion]

It is Obama who is responsible for the biggest tax cut for the middle class since Reagan.

What was this big Obama tax cut?

Part of the 787 billion stimulus package was a 237 billion tax cut. 100 billion of it went to the middle class.

Economist's View: Tax Cuts and the Stimulus Package

Hmmmmm....did anyone get a tax cut? Anyone? I know I didnt.
Surely with this huge tax cut someone here got one....right?

Yeah, actually I did. I got a tax cut right when they said I would, back in 2001........ oh.... wait.... wrong one?

 

[P@triot]

Ok prove me wrong. What are you waiting for?

Can't prove a negative! Another far left fail.

Then again are you admitting to posting bunk and wanting others to "prove you wrong"?

We'll see it is easy to prove if you are right. Tell me exactly what was in the stimulus package. Tell me what exactly made up that 787 billion.

Can you clarify for us here? Are you actually denying the nearly $800 billion "stimulus package"?!? Please tell me I'm reading this wrong and you're not attempting to deny something that Obama is proud of and will even admit?

 

[P@triot]

Part of the 787 billion stimulus package was a 237 billion tax cut. 100 billion of it went to the middle class.

Economist's View: Tax Cuts and the Stimulus Package

The Bush tax cuts were much larger, and longer lasting, than Obama's temporary cuts.

Yes you're right. It was much larger mostly for the wealthy. But gues what? Tax cuts for the wealthy only help the wealthy. Trickle down economics is a lie. How do we know? Because those cuts only stimulate supply. They do very little to stimulate demand. As a result, they have no economic effects. Obama has created more private jobs in his 5 years than in Bush's 8 years. The stimulus created or saved 2.5 million jobs. Not just trough cuts, but also demand.

This is literally as absurd as saying "gravity is a lie".

Trickle down is just an undeniable reality of life (like gravity). Wealthy people create jobs. A poor person never created even a single job in world history.

Wealthy people have money to spend on goods and services. That causes a portion of their wealth to "trickle down" to those people providing the goods and services.

It always amazes me how completely ignorant of even basic economics liberals are. I guess because they don't hold jobs and thus don't participate in the work force they are baffled by economics? I'm not sure what else it could be...

 

[Andylusion]

Part of the 787 billion stimulus package was a 237 billion tax cut. 100 billion of it went to the middle class.

Economist's View: Tax Cuts and the Stimulus Package

The Bush tax cuts were much larger, and longer lasting, than Obama's temporary cuts.

Yes you're right. It was much larger mostly for the wealthy. But gues what? Tax cuts for the wealthy only help the wealthy. Trickle down economics is a lie. How do we know? Because those cuts only stimulate supply. They do very little to stimulate demand. As a result, they have no economic effects. Obama has created more private jobs in his 5 years than in Bush's 8 years. The stimulus created or saved 2.5 million jobs. Not just trough cuts, but also demand.

Trickle down, has nothing to do with "supply side". Supply side economics, is not "trickle down".

Trickle down refers to the fact that everything works from a trickle down system. Nothing can trickle up. No one ever gets a job from a poor impoverished beggar.

Nor do you buy a car, from a poor impoverished beggar.

Trickle down merely describes how the world in fact works. It's rich people that create jobs. It's rich people the create products and services. It's rich people that make the economy work. And this system is universal. Even in the most socialized systems, who runs the state run companies of a socialized country? Rich people. Tickle down is even how socialist economies work.

Zhou Jiping is CEO of China National Petroleum Corporation, and is paid just over $1 Million dollars a year, and not in stock options either. He's paid a million in cold hard cash, and that doesn't include his Government funded Pension for life.

So Trickle down is how all economies work. You look at any country that drives out the rich, and I'll show you a country that is failing economically.

But let's back up a second. Let's talk about supply side economics. I do not support supply side economics, but the idea that boosting supply doesn't work, is actually wrong.

If you in fact boost supply, even if you do not boost demand, that can have a positive effect.

Why? Because supply verse demand, results in price.

If you increase the supply of cars, the price of cars will decline. If the price declines, while incomes remain exactly the same...... you can afford more cars, because they have a lower price.

While saying that only increasing wages will boost the economy, is a nice populist belief system, and plays well with voters, the fact is, if you have policies that lower the cost of production, which increases production, and lowers the price of goods, that can have the exact same effect, as having a higher wage.

Which is better....

Earning $20,000, up from $15,000, with the cost of goods like a car, being $15,000.

Or earning $15,000, with the cost of goods like a car dropping to $10,000 from $15,000.

The answer is, neither one is better than the other. Supply side, or demand side, both have a positive effect.

Again, I am not a supply side believer, I'm a pro Free-Market Capitalist. I believe taxes and regulations and fees, should be as low as possible, while the market should be as free as possible.

I believe in increasing both supply and demand, by cutting as much regulations and taxes, on both citizens and business.