Republicans Are Having Some Trouble Talking About Rape and Incest

[miketx]

True.

In fact, conservatives want to control all aspects of citizens’ private lives – they seek to compel conformity and punish dissent and expressions of individual liberty.

Sez the lying commie.

 

[jc456]

‘By the time the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last week, 13 states were ready with so-called trigger laws that would ban abortions within their borders immediately. (Additional states had pre-Roe prohibitions in place that will now be enforced.) One notable thing about these trigger statutes, which have been gradually enacted over the past two decades, is that most of them do not make any exceptions for cases involving rape or incest.

This absolutist approach to abortion prohibition was once considered both morally and politically unthinkable, but came into vogue in red states thanks to the increasingly hard-line views that have come to dominate both the conservative movement and anti-abortion activism in particular. The reasoning behind it is straightforward enough: If life really starts at conception and abortion is murder, then terminating a pregnancy for any reason at all must be banned. The issue is that outside the world of conservative ideologues, it remains a wildly unpopular policy.

Take Yesli Vega, a GOP house candidate in Virginia, who was caught on tape during a campaign stop musing that women might be less likely to get pregnant in cases of rape. This is a long-running myth with deep origins in the anti-abortion movement, which might explain why it was proposed first by someone attending the campaign event. On the audio, first reported by Axios, the audience member asks: “I’ve actually heard that it’s harder for a woman to get pregnant if she’s been raped. Have you heard that?” Vega responds: “Well, maybe because there’s so much going on in the body. I don’t know. I haven’t, you know, seen any studies. But if I’m processing what you’re saying, it wouldn’t surprise me. Because it’s not something that’s happening organically. You’re forcing it.”

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No exceptions for cases involving rape or incest is widely unpopular because it’s wrong.

You love death

 

[jc456]

In fact, the lie conservatives tell themselves about abortion is about vilifying women – ‘banning’ abortion is fundamentally misogynistic.

The right’s war on women continues.

You mean your infatuation with death?

 

[toobfreak]

Republicans do incest a lot more and rape more.

I'll ignore your most stupid remark ever just to point out that if true, then why are all the child sex rings run by progressives? Was Epstein a republican? Nope. Was Weinstein who ran half of Hollywood's girl sex traffic a republican? Nope. Who does most rape? Liberal-prog college kids and leftwing poor. That is all on you, baby.

 

[jc456]

True.

In fact, conservatives want to control all aspects of citizens’ private lives – they seek to compel conformity and punish dissent and expressions of individual liberty.

You want death, I want life! How’s that

 

[jc456]

Republicans do incest a lot more and rape more.

Epstein, Clinton

 

[miketx]

Republicans do incest a lot more and rape more.

Don't worry, no republican would come near you with a ten foot pole. You'll have to pay someone to rape you.

 

[maybelooking]

In fact, the lie conservatives tell themselves about abortion is about vilifying women – ‘banning’ abortion is fundamentally misogynistic.

The right’s war on women continues.

The truth is if the right offered abortion in cases of incest and rape the left would tell them to fuck off!!!

 

[JoeB131]

No more than slave owners and traders in our own nation's past, or Nazis in 1930s-1940s Germany thought of their victims as human.

So you are comparing a woman who has an abortion to a Nazi? Really?

Of course, the relationships between slave owners and slaves was a bit more complicated. Sure, they were second class citizens who lived in their houses and nursed their young and were in some cases considered part of the family.

As opposed to a woman who gets rid of a kidney bean sized lump of tissue she doesn't want... really not the same thing.

 

[miketx]

So you are comparing a woman who has an abortion to a Nazi? Really?

Of course, the relationships between slave owners and slaves was a bit more complicated. Sure, they were second class citizens who lived in their houses and nursed their young and were in some cases considered part of the family.

As opposed to a woman who gets rid of a kidney bean sized lump of tissue she doesn't want... really not the same thing.

Lol, you vermin get more ridiculous each day.

 

[jc456]

The truth is if the right offered abortion in cases of incest and rape the left would tell them to fuck off!!!

Give demofks death and conservatives will always take life. Still amazing how much death demofks need

 

[bodecea]

True.

In fact, conservatives want to control all aspects of citizens’ private lives – they seek to compel conformity and punish dissent and expressions of individual liberty.

Con-trol over women's bodies....same purpose as rape.

 

[bodecea]

As a Conservative I don't have any trouble talking about rape and incest when it comes to abortion.

I think we need common sense abortion laws.

Abortion for the sake of the mother's health is a no brainer.

Abortion for the sake of convenience is definitely a no go.

Rape and incest is always a shitty deal.

However, a child should not be put to death because the father was an asshole.

Before an abortion the mother should have to peruse all avenues for an adoption. Having to carry the child to term is not the great but it is better than killing the child.

What percentage of abortions are for the sake of con-venience? Give us the percentage and source.

 

[bodecea]

Sez the lying commie.

"commie"

 

[bodecea]

Don't worry, no republican would come near you with a ten foot pole. You'll have to pay someone to rape you.

And there we have the INCEL input.

 

[Lesh]

A 10 year old RAPE VICTIM was forced to go out of state to get an abortion.

If these anti-abortion craizies had their way she wouldn't even have been able to do THAT

Because ya know...the children...

 

[Zincwarrior]

This has been debunked over a million times, at least.

Republicans don't agree with Democrats' solutions to children who are not being cared for. You way is not the only way to care.

What are Republican solutions?

1. 17 year old girl.
2. 26 year old. Married. Working. Birth control failed. Can't afford a third child.
3. Ectopic pregnancy.
4. 30 year old, married with kids. Had affair. Will lead to divorce and single parent households for all kids?

 

[jknowgood]

Republican only care about when the fetus in womb, they don't care much for the birth and afterlife, they turn their back on them, the mother and the baby. All they become are incubators.

Yep and that's why your party wants to turn them into little sex slaves for your masters. Starting at age 5.

 

[whitehall]

It seems that lefties love talking about rape and incest but they hate talking about democracy.

 

[jknowgood]

Actually, it was kind of the opposite.

There were all these abortion laws on the books, nobody was actually enforcing them in 1973. Again, kind of compare them to the prostitution laws. Prostitution is illegal in 49 states, but yet we have strip joints, massage parlors, escort agencies, etc. all operating pretty much out in the open.

So SCOTUS - including FIVE Republican appointees - decided to strike these silly laws down, and no ne had a big deal about it. Sure, the Catholics would whine, but the Catholics were still whining when SCOTUS made birth control legal 8 years earlier.

The other key thing is that this wasn't a partisan issue back then. You had pro-choice Republicans (including Poppy Bush) and pro-life Democrats (like the Lipinskis in Chicago).

It was ONLY after the Evangelicals needed a political issue to motivate their flocks that this became an issue.

These laws won't prevent one abortion, but they will make life difficult for women dealing with unwanted pregnancies.



Yes, if you think a zygote is a human being, then this is a moral issue.

If you don't, it isn't.

So you agree outlawing guns won't stop gun violence?