Republicans and the NRA are responsible for all the gun murders

[Steven_R]

We have more guns than any nation on the planet. If gun ownership increases safety why are we not the safest country on the planet?

Violent minorities.

Other countries don't have minorities? Interesting.

It's a cultural problem in black and Hispanic communities where violence is just a part of daily life. Throw in the drug trade and you have a recipe where young black and Hispanic men kill at the drop of a hat over the flimsiest of reasons.

 

[elektra]

Okay. You convinced me. I'd

Guns have one sole purpose: to place a projectile into another, causing death. They were created to win wars. If we need them for trained soldiers to stop invasions by bad guys, fine. Every cowboy in this country doesn't need five guns in the basement with which to protect his family from imaginary bad guys and government invasion.
I agree with OP to some extent: The NRA has certainly contributed to a bad situation by promoting the idea that the only way to be safe is to own more guns. They are too easy to get, designed to kill more people more quickly than any but soldiers require, and unfortunately they are becoming more and more 'popular' due to the continual NRA goading to BUY MORE.

I've owned firearms for 50+ years, and unless they have figured out how to get out of my gun safe, sneak out of the house without waking me, kill someone, sneak back into the house, again, without waking me, and lock themselves back in the safe, my guns havent' killed anyone or anything.

I'd say about 95-99% of gun owners, IMO, find the OP and your post foolish.

I have a confession to make. It's hard for me to say this publicly, but one of my guns killed a couple people. I tried to stop it, but my AR-15 broke out of the safe and went on a drunken rampage. It walked into some house, shot up a family, and then stole a car. It led police on a high speed chase through four states, where my AR-15 was finally brought down in a hail of gunfire. When I went to the police station to identify my gun, I told the officer to arrest me as I felt responsible, but he told me to forget it. Inanimate objects are to blame for these tragedies, not the people holding the guns. He's right of course, but it's still hard when I look at the other guns in my safe. Any one of them might just go out on day and kill again while I sit at home and worry.

But it's not my fault. It's no one's fault what guns do. Guns do it on their own.

Why do you need an AR15? Wouldn't one or two bullets do, or are you that bad a shot?

How many bullets does an AR-15 shoot?

How many rounds does a semi-automatic rifle fire per minute? - Quora
As fast as you can pull the trigger, up to 800 rounds per minute.

The Sustained Rate of Fire would be the term you need to google. About 45 rounds per minute, without aiming. 1-5 chance of hitting someone, which sounds right when you look at the data from recent Mass Shootings by democrats.

 

[RandallFlagg]

This is why I don't waste my time with these clowns. They are so rabid that no explanation will ever suffice... So I don't try.

But seriously, you have to love these fools. Their political "gods" are protected by men with guns. Their activist judges are protected by men with guns. Their money, in their banks is protected by men with guns. Their property is protected by men with guns. The country is protected by men with guns.

But their schools are protected by signs that say "no gun zone".

And they tell us that THEY are intelligent....

 

[RandallFlagg]

Okay. You convinced me. I'd

I've owned firearms for 50+ years, and unless they have figured out how to get out of my gun safe, sneak out of the house without waking me, kill someone, sneak back into the house, again, without waking me, and lock themselves back in the safe, my guns havent' killed anyone or anything.

I'd say about 95-99% of gun owners, IMO, find the OP and your post foolish.

I have a confession to make. It's hard for me to say this publicly, but one of my guns killed a couple people. I tried to stop it, but my AR-15 broke out of the safe and went on a drunken rampage. It walked into some house, shot up a family, and then stole a car. It led police on a high speed chase through four states, where my AR-15 was finally brought down in a hail of gunfire. When I went to the police station to identify my gun, I told the officer to arrest me as I felt responsible, but he told me to forget it. Inanimate objects are to blame for these tragedies, not the people holding the guns. He's right of course, but it's still hard when I look at the other guns in my safe. Any one of them might just go out on day and kill again while I sit at home and worry.

But it's not my fault. It's no one's fault what guns do. Guns do it on their own.

Why do you need an AR15? Wouldn't one or two bullets do, or are you that bad a shot?

Here's a suggestion for you...read the second amendment

If you are still too stupid to understand... Take a Xanax and call your therapist in the AM.

Duhhhh, a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state has nothing to do with all of us packing! We seem to have a rather large well regulated military already.

Trouble reading that too?


The right was given to the PEOPLE, not the militia

In her mind - the PEOPLE means nothing. Typical liberal grasping at straws.

 

[Rustic]

The GOP and the NRA have been creating the "gun culture" ever since the Columbine massacre. They've flooded this country with guns, by scaring stupid people into believing that the government is out to get them and is out to take their guns. Every time there's another massacre, gun sales go through the roof.
you can see from the manufacturing and import figures above that another 45 – 47 million guns have been added since then (2010 through 2013)
http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/04/gu...y-the-numbers/

So the NRA and republicans are responsible for every gun murder in this country, because they promote the "gun culture".

It's called good business, thanks to…

 

[Rustic]

Guns have one sole purpose: to place a projectile into another, causing death. They were created to win wars. If we need them for trained soldiers to stop invasions by bad guys, fine. Every cowboy in this country doesn't need five guns in the basement with which to protect his family from imaginary bad guys and government invasion.
I agree with OP to some extent: The NRA has certainly contributed to a bad situation by promoting the idea that the only way to be safe is to own more guns. They are too easy to get, designed to kill more people more quickly than any but soldiers require, and unfortunately they are becoming more and more 'popular' due to the continual NRA goading to BUY MORE.

Who are you to say?? Now go hide dumbass

 

[RandallFlagg]

Okay. You convinced me. I'd

I've owned firearms for 50+ years, and unless they have figured out how to get out of my gun safe, sneak out of the house without waking me, kill someone, sneak back into the house, again, without waking me, and lock themselves back in the safe, my guns havent' killed anyone or anything.

I'd say about 95-99% of gun owners, IMO, find the OP and your post foolish.

I have a confession to make. It's hard for me to say this publicly, but one of my guns killed a couple people. I tried to stop it, but my AR-15 broke out of the safe and went on a drunken rampage. It walked into some house, shot up a family, and then stole a car. It led police on a high speed chase through four states, where my AR-15 was finally brought down in a hail of gunfire. When I went to the police station to identify my gun, I told the officer to arrest me as I felt responsible, but he told me to forget it. Inanimate objects are to blame for these tragedies, not the people holding the guns. He's right of course, but it's still hard when I look at the other guns in my safe. Any one of them might just go out on day and kill again while I sit at home and worry.

But it's not my fault. It's no one's fault what guns do. Guns do it on their own.

Why do you need an AR15? Wouldn't one or two bullets do, or are you that bad a shot?

How many bullets does an AR-15 shoot?

How many rounds does a semi-automatic rifle fire per minute? - Quora
As fast as you can pull the trigger, up to 800 rounds per minute.

The Sustained Rate of Fire would be the term you need to google. About 45 rounds per minute, without aiming. 1-5 chance of hitting someone, which sounds right when you look at the data from recent Mass Shootings by democrats.

That's why the ARMALITE RIFLE was actually designed for single rate of fire (but the full auto switch - or the fun switch as we called it) was put there, to keep heads down with. Basically, on auto, it's (1) a waste of ammo and (2) inaccurate as hell.

I rarely ever had the fun switch on in Viet Nam.

 

[Rustic]

Why do 8,124 souls who lost their lives to gun murder in 2014 mean nothing to you? Considering that 70% more than that were probably injured by guns but survived, that's a lot of people hurt unnecessarily.
If 8,000 people were injured by exploding lithium batteries per year, would you shrug and say "Don't bother doing anything about it--it's a lot less than die in car crashes." That's ridiculous!

 

[Rustic]

What's Behind The Decline In Crime?
I put this in the other thread; here you go again.
The decline in crime may have many reasons, but the fact that more people are carrying guns is not proposed as one of them. The reasons people are less violent are the factors that make sense.
There has also been a decline in landlines since the 1990's. That is not because more people are carrying guns.

So..... More guns less crime

 

[Rustic]

Okay. You convinced me. I'd

Guns have one sole purpose: to place a projectile into another, causing death. They were created to win wars. If we need them for trained soldiers to stop invasions by bad guys, fine. Every cowboy in this country doesn't need five guns in the basement with which to protect his family from imaginary bad guys and government invasion.
I agree with OP to some extent: The NRA has certainly contributed to a bad situation by promoting the idea that the only way to be safe is to own more guns. They are too easy to get, designed to kill more people more quickly than any but soldiers require, and unfortunately they are becoming more and more 'popular' due to the continual NRA goading to BUY MORE.

I've owned firearms for 50+ years, and unless they have figured out how to get out of my gun safe, sneak out of the house without waking me, kill someone, sneak back into the house, again, without waking me, and lock themselves back in the safe, my guns havent' killed anyone or anything.

I'd say about 95-99% of gun owners, IMO, find the OP and your post foolish.

I have a confession to make. It's hard for me to say this publicly, but one of my guns killed a couple people. I tried to stop it, but my AR-15 broke out of the safe and went on a drunken rampage. It walked into some house, shot up a family, and then stole a car. It led police on a high speed chase through four states, where my AR-15 was finally brought down in a hail of gunfire. When I went to the police station to identify my gun, I told the officer to arrest me as I felt responsible, but he told me to forget it. Inanimate objects are to blame for these tragedies, not the people holding the guns. He's right of course, but it's still hard when I look at the other guns in my safe. Any one of them might just go out on day and kill again while I sit at home and worry.

But it's not my fault. It's no one's fault what guns do. Guns do it on their own.

Why do you need an AR15? Wouldn't one or two bullets do, or are you that bad a shot?

Who are you to say who needs what dumbass

 

[Rustic]

We have more guns than any nation on the planet. If gun ownership increases safety why are we not the safest country on the planet?

Because political correctness makes criminals

 

[Rustic]

Okay. You convinced me. I'd

Guns have one sole purpose: to place a projectile into another, causing death. They were created to win wars. If we need them for trained soldiers to stop invasions by bad guys, fine. Every cowboy in this country doesn't need five guns in the basement with which to protect his family from imaginary bad guys and government invasion.
I agree with OP to some extent: The NRA has certainly contributed to a bad situation by promoting the idea that the only way to be safe is to own more guns. They are too easy to get, designed to kill more people more quickly than any but soldiers require, and unfortunately they are becoming more and more 'popular' due to the continual NRA goading to BUY MORE.

I've owned firearms for 50+ years, and unless they have figured out how to get out of my gun safe, sneak out of the house without waking me, kill someone, sneak back into the house, again, without waking me, and lock themselves back in the safe, my guns havent' killed anyone or anything.

I'd say about 95-99% of gun owners, IMO, find the OP and your post foolish.

I have a confession to make. It's hard for me to say this publicly, but one of my guns killed a couple people. I tried to stop it, but my AR-15 broke out of the safe and went on a drunken rampage. It walked into some house, shot up a family, and then stole a car. It led police on a high speed chase through four states, where my AR-15 was finally brought down in a hail of gunfire. When I went to the police station to identify my gun, I told the officer to arrest me as I felt responsible, but he told me to forget it. Inanimate objects are to blame for these tragedies, not the people holding the guns. He's right of course, but it's still hard when I look at the other guns in my safe. Any one of them might just go out on day and kill again while I sit at home and worry.

But it's not my fault. It's no one's fault what guns do. Guns do it on their own.

Why do you need an AR15? Wouldn't one or two bullets do, or are you that bad a shot?

How many bullets does an AR-15 shoot?

Dunno. Isn't that one of the rat-a-tat-tat guns? If it's the kind that Fess Parker used to kill the bad hombres, I take it back.

Please educate yourself first before talking about something you know nothing of. Now go hide dumbass

 

[Rustic]

We have more guns than any nation on the planet. If gun ownership increases safety why are we not the safest country on the planet?

Violent minorities.

Other countries don't have minorities? Interesting.

----------------------------- many other countries have NO or diminished RIGHTS when compared to the USA RDD !!

So why aren't we the safest country in the world? Be specific.

Because political correctness makes for criminal behavior

 

[Rustic]

Okay. You convinced me. I'd

Guns have one sole purpose: to place a projectile into another, causing death. They were created to win wars. If we need them for trained soldiers to stop invasions by bad guys, fine. Every cowboy in this country doesn't need five guns in the basement with which to protect his family from imaginary bad guys and government invasion.
I agree with OP to some extent: The NRA has certainly contributed to a bad situation by promoting the idea that the only way to be safe is to own more guns. They are too easy to get, designed to kill more people more quickly than any but soldiers require, and unfortunately they are becoming more and more 'popular' due to the continual NRA goading to BUY MORE.

I've owned firearms for 50+ years, and unless they have figured out how to get out of my gun safe, sneak out of the house without waking me, kill someone, sneak back into the house, again, without waking me, and lock themselves back in the safe, my guns havent' killed anyone or anything.

I'd say about 95-99% of gun owners, IMO, find the OP and your post foolish.

I have a confession to make. It's hard for me to say this publicly, but one of my guns killed a couple people. I tried to stop it, but my AR-15 broke out of the safe and went on a drunken rampage. It walked into some house, shot up a family, and then stole a car. It led police on a high speed chase through four states, where my AR-15 was finally brought down in a hail of gunfire. When I went to the police station to identify my gun, I told the officer to arrest me as I felt responsible, but he told me to forget it. Inanimate objects are to blame for these tragedies, not the people holding the guns. He's right of course, but it's still hard when I look at the other guns in my safe. Any one of them might just go out on day and kill again while I sit at home and worry.

But it's not my fault. It's no one's fault what guns do. Guns do it on their own.

Why do you need an AR15? Wouldn't one or two bullets do, or are you that bad a shot?

How many bullets does an AR-15 shoot?

How many rounds does a semi-automatic rifle fire per minute? - Quora
As fast as you can pull the trigger, up to 800 rounds per minute.

You're in the sea of sharks, leave youre way over your head dumbass

 

[OldLady]

Okay. You convinced me. I'd

I've owned firearms for 50+ years, and unless they have figured out how to get out of my gun safe, sneak out of the house without waking me, kill someone, sneak back into the house, again, without waking me, and lock themselves back in the safe, my guns havent' killed anyone or anything.

I'd say about 95-99% of gun owners, IMO, find the OP and your post foolish.

I have a confession to make. It's hard for me to say this publicly, but one of my guns killed a couple people. I tried to stop it, but my AR-15 broke out of the safe and went on a drunken rampage. It walked into some house, shot up a family, and then stole a car. It led police on a high speed chase through four states, where my AR-15 was finally brought down in a hail of gunfire. When I went to the police station to identify my gun, I told the officer to arrest me as I felt responsible, but he told me to forget it. Inanimate objects are to blame for these tragedies, not the people holding the guns. He's right of course, but it's still hard when I look at the other guns in my safe. Any one of them might just go out on day and kill again while I sit at home and worry.

But it's not my fault. It's no one's fault what guns do. Guns do it on their own.

Why do you need an AR15? Wouldn't one or two bullets do, or are you that bad a shot?

How many bullets does an AR-15 shoot?

How many rounds does a semi-automatic rifle fire per minute? - Quora
As fast as you can pull the trigger, up to 800 rounds per minute.

Did you bother to read your link?

"Technically, the AR-15 fires 800 rounds a minute (source: Wikipedia), which is 13.3 rounds per second. This is for the full-auto version. We know that fanning your index finger is going to be much slower than that, so saying 180 rounds per minute is actually a very, very reasonable number. Except that you'd never get there, because you can only fire 30 (or 10 in Colorado) rounds from a standard magazine."

30 bullets in a minute is obscene! What in hell does anyone need that kind of firepower for? Walk into a crowded Christmas party with an AR-15 with a standard magazine and shoot 30 people in less than one minute. You think that's good?

 

[Wilbur Right]

----------------- Gun Culture is American culture . Learn it , promote and teach the children !!

You forgot a part; gun culture,learn it, promote it,teach the children, and accept the deaths by gun that were unnecessary.

Shit happens, accidents occur. People go/are crazy. Guns are plentiful. The law of unintended consequences applies to everything. Accept it. Deaths by gun is not going to end the 2nd amendment.

 

[pismoe]

----------------- Gun Culture is American culture . Learn it , promote and teach the children !!

You forgot a part; gun culture,learn it, promote it,teach the children, and accept the deaths by gun that were unnecessary.

Shit happens, accidents occur. People go/are crazy. Guns are plentiful. The law of unintended consequences applies to everything. Accept it. Deaths by gun is not going to end the 2nd amendment.

---------------------------------- yep , I agree , there is a price to be paid for FREEDOM Wilbur !!

 

[mudwhistle]

The GOP and the NRA have been creating the "gun culture" ever since the Columbine massacre. They've flooded this country with guns, by scaring stupid people into believing that the government is out to get them and is out to take their guns. Every time there's another massacre, gun sales go through the roof.
you can see from the manufacturing and import figures above that another 45 – 47 million guns have been added since then (2010 through 2013)
http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/04/gu...y-the-numbers/

So the NRA and republicans are responsible for every gun murder in this country, because they promote the "gun culture".

Yeaaaaah...all of these blacks were forced to kill cops by the NRA and the GOP.

Yeaaaaah.....that's the ticket.

 

[pismoe]

Okay. You convinced me. I'd

I have a confession to make. It's hard for me to say this publicly, but one of my guns killed a couple people. I tried to stop it, but my AR-15 broke out of the safe and went on a drunken rampage. It walked into some house, shot up a family, and then stole a car. It led police on a high speed chase through four states, where my AR-15 was finally brought down in a hail of gunfire. When I went to the police station to identify my gun, I told the officer to arrest me as I felt responsible, but he told me to forget it. Inanimate objects are to blame for these tragedies, not the people holding the guns. He's right of course, but it's still hard when I look at the other guns in my safe. Any one of them might just go out on day and kill again while I sit at home and worry.

But it's not my fault. It's no one's fault what guns do. Guns do it on their own.

Why do you need an AR15? Wouldn't one or two bullets do, or are you that bad a shot?

How many bullets does an AR-15 shoot?

How many rounds does a semi-automatic rifle fire per minute? - Quora
As fast as you can pull the trigger, up to 800 rounds per minute.

Did you bother to read your link?

"Technically, the AR-15 fires 800 rounds a minute (source: Wikipedia), which is 13.3 rounds per second. This is for the full-auto version. We know that fanning your index finger is going to be much slower than that, so saying 180 rounds per minute is actually a very, very reasonable number. Except that you'd never get there, because you can only fire 30 (or 10 in Colorado) rounds from a standard magazine."

30 bullets in a minute is obscene! What in hell does anyone need that kind of firepower for? Walk into a crowded Christmas party with an AR-15 with a standard magazine and shoot 30 people in less than one minute. You think that's good?

--------------------------- so OldLady doesn't understand the real purpose of the 'second amendment' ehh ?? Second amendment has nothing to do with hunting , target shooting OldLady !!

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

The GOP and the NRA have been creating the "gun culture" ever since the Columbine massacre. They've flooded this country with guns, by scaring stupid people into believing that the government is out to get them and is out to take their guns. Every time there's another massacre, gun sales go through the roof.
you can see from the manufacturing and import figures above that another 45 – 47 million guns have been added since then (2010 through 2013)
http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/04/gu...y-the-numbers/

So the NRA and republicans are responsible for every gun murder in this country, because they promote the "gun culture".

I didn't pull the trigger, therefore I'm not responsible.