Republican Senators send a letter to Iran. Wow. Damn!

[Dot Com]

I agree w/ JoeB131 on this one. ChrisL- you are floundering.

 

[ChrisL]

I agree w/ JoeB131 on this one. ChrisL- you are floundering.

Mmm. I don't think so Dot. Joe is like, "oh, so they execute women and homos, no biggie." That's pretty sick and effed up, if you ask me.

 

[Vigilante]

 

[JoeB131]

You know if the Libertarians were in charge, back in WWII, we would've said the same thing about the Jews. Then there wouldn't be a Jew left alive today. Does that matter? Why should we care if they kill each other off?

We didn't at the time. No one cared in 1941 that Hitler was killing the Jews. We sent refugee ships back to Europe.

We got into World War II because the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and Hitler was dumb enough to declare war on us (even though his treaty with Japan didn't require it.)

 

[JoeB131]

Mmm. I don't think so Dot. Joe is like, "oh, so they execute women and homos, no biggie." That's pretty sick and effed up, if you ask me.

Again, it's not our job to dictate morals to other countries. We execute people in this country, including until recently, crimes committed by people when they were children. Most of the world has outlawed capital punishment.

Kind of like we are dictating to Iran that they can't have a bomb when we are the ONLY nation to ever use one on people.

 

[ChrisL]

Mmm. I don't think so Dot. Joe is like, "oh, so they execute women and homos, no biggie." That's pretty sick and effed up, if you ask me.

Again, it's not our job to dictate morals to other countries. We execute people in this country, including until recently, crimes committed by people when they were children. Most of the world has outlawed capital punishment.

Kind of like we are dictating to Iran that they can't have a bomb when we are the ONLY nation to ever use one on people.

Do we execute people for being gay? For being raped? For cheating on their husbands?

Too bad. Yes we can dictate to them, and for the good of the world, we should.

 

[Dot Com]

Mmm. I don't think so Dot. Joe is like, "oh, so they execute women and homos, no biggie." That's pretty sick and effed up, if you ask me.

Again, it's not our job to dictate morals to other countries. We execute people in this country, including until recently, crimes committed by people when they were children. Most of the world has outlawed capital punishment.

Kind of like we are dictating to Iran that they can't have a bomb when we are the ONLY nation to ever use one on people.

Do we execute people for being gay? For being raped? For cheating on their husbands?

Too bad. Yes we can dictate to them, and for the good of the world, we should.

who is going to pay for your world's police force? You?

BTW- you ever serve?

 

[ChrisL]

Mmm. I don't think so Dot. Joe is like, "oh, so they execute women and homos, no biggie." That's pretty sick and effed up, if you ask me.

Again, it's not our job to dictate morals to other countries. We execute people in this country, including until recently, crimes committed by people when they were children. Most of the world has outlawed capital punishment.

Kind of like we are dictating to Iran that they can't have a bomb when we are the ONLY nation to ever use one on people.

Do we execute people for being gay? For being raped? For cheating on their husbands?

Too bad. Yes we can dictate to them, and for the good of the world, we should.

who is going to pay for your world's police force? You?

BTW- you ever serve?

I'm a 36-year-old, 5 foot 1 inch female who weighs 100 pounds. WHAT do you think?

We already give countries BILLIONS of dollars in aid, in case you didn't know that. We already are the world's police force whether you want to recognize that or not.

 

[Care4all]

Well, I think Iran will probably try to get nukes, whether a deal is made or not. If we were them, we would do the same and to deny that is just ridiculous....imho.

Soooo, this being my presumption that Iran is going to try to get nukes, then I would rather have us in on a deal that allows inspectors and others to make certain they are not doing something not in the agreement that can lead to that.

And if Iran just continues with a covert plan to build nuclear weapons, I would rather us have the ability to be within their Nation covertly snooping, and I would rather have sanctions lifted and covert agents of ours working within those private companies selling to them, getting us as much info as possible on any covert operations going on in Iran....

 

[ChrisL]

Well, I think Iran will probably try to get nukes, whether a deal is made or not. If we were them, we would do the same and to deny that is just ridiculous....imho.

Soooo, this being my presumption that Iran is going to try to get nukes, then I would rather have us in on a deal that allows inspectors and others to make certain they are not doing something not in the agreement that can lead to that.

And if Iran just continues with a covert plan to build nuclear weapons, I would rather us have the ability to be within their Nation covertly snooping, and I would rather have sanctions lifted and covert agents of ours working within those private companies selling to them, getting us as much info as possible on any covert operations going on in Iran....

They hide things, they lie, and they do not cooperate with inspectors. As a matter of fact, they are STILL uncooperative. Still think it's a good idea?

Iran isn t providing needed access or information nuclear watchdog says - The Washington Post

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/20/w...-evades-queries-on-possible-nuclear-work.html

IAEA s Yukiya Amano Says Organization Can t Verify Iran s Past Nuclear Activity - US News

 

[Care4all]

Well, I think Iran will probably try to get nukes, whether a deal is made or not. If we were them, we would do the same and to deny that is just ridiculous....imho.

Soooo, this being my presumption that Iran is going to try to get nukes, then I would rather have us in on a deal that allows inspectors and others to make certain they are not doing something not in the agreement that can lead to that.

And if Iran just continues with a covert plan to build nuclear weapons, I would rather us have the ability to be within their Nation covertly snooping, and I would rather have sanctions lifted and covert agents of ours working within those private companies selling to them, getting us as much info as possible on any covert operations going on in Iran....

They hide things, they lie, and they do not cooperate with inspectors. As a matter of fact, they are STILL uncooperative. Still think it's a good idea?

Iran isn t providing needed access or information nuclear watchdog says - The Washington Post

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/20/w...-evades-queries-on-possible-nuclear-work.html

IAEA s Yukiya Amano Says Organization Can t Verify Iran s Past Nuclear Activity - US News

Yes, I do think it is STILL the better, and smarter OPTION....if a deal can be worked!!!

 

[ChrisL]

Well, I think Iran will probably try to get nukes, whether a deal is made or not. If we were them, we would do the same and to deny that is just ridiculous....imho.

Soooo, this being my presumption that Iran is going to try to get nukes, then I would rather have us in on a deal that allows inspectors and others to make certain they are not doing something not in the agreement that can lead to that.

And if Iran just continues with a covert plan to build nuclear weapons, I would rather us have the ability to be within their Nation covertly snooping, and I would rather have sanctions lifted and covert agents of ours working within those private companies selling to them, getting us as much info as possible on any covert operations going on in Iran....

They hide things, they lie, and they do not cooperate with inspectors. As a matter of fact, they are STILL uncooperative. Still think it's a good idea?

Iran isn t providing needed access or information nuclear watchdog says - The Washington Post

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/20/w...-evades-queries-on-possible-nuclear-work.html

IAEA s Yukiya Amano Says Organization Can t Verify Iran s Past Nuclear Activity - US News

Yes, I do think it is STILL the better, and smarter OPTION.

No it is not. Tougher sanctions are the smarter option. When the people have to choose between food and nuclear energy, they will choose food.

 

[ChrisL]

Great idea, LOOSEN sanctions???? In WHAT world is this a good idea?

 

[ChrisL]

Oh, I know, let's HELP THEM and make it EASIER for them to get the materials they need to make a bomb! Great idea!!!

 

[Dot Com]

Mmm. I don't think so Dot. Joe is like, "oh, so they execute women and homos, no biggie." That's pretty sick and effed up, if you ask me.

Again, it's not our job to dictate morals to other countries. We execute people in this country, including until recently, crimes committed by people when they were children. Most of the world has outlawed capital punishment.

Kind of like we are dictating to Iran that they can't have a bomb when we are the ONLY nation to ever use one on people.

Do we execute people for being gay? For being raped? For cheating on their husbands?

Too bad. Yes we can dictate to them, and for the good of the world, we should.

who is going to pay for your world's police force? You?

BTW- you ever serve?

I'm a 36-year-old, 5 foot 1 inch female who weighs 100 pounds. WHAT do you think?

We already give countries BILLIONS of dollars in aid, in case you didn't know that. We already are the world's police force whether you want to recognize that or not.

so the status quo is permanent in your pretty little head? The definition of insanity: doing the same thing and expecting different results.

 

[ChrisL]

Mmm. I don't think so Dot. Joe is like, "oh, so they execute women and homos, no biggie." That's pretty sick and effed up, if you ask me.

Again, it's not our job to dictate morals to other countries. We execute people in this country, including until recently, crimes committed by people when they were children. Most of the world has outlawed capital punishment.

Kind of like we are dictating to Iran that they can't have a bomb when we are the ONLY nation to ever use one on people.

Do we execute people for being gay? For being raped? For cheating on their husbands?

Too bad. Yes we can dictate to them, and for the good of the world, we should.

who is going to pay for your world's police force? You?

BTW- you ever serve?

I'm a 36-year-old, 5 foot 1 inch female who weighs 100 pounds. WHAT do you think?

We already give countries BILLIONS of dollars in aid, in case you didn't know that. We already are the world's police force whether you want to recognize that or not.

so the status quo is permanent in your pretty little head? The definition of insanity: doing the same thing and expecting different results.

Lol. Well that doesn't mean that making deals with people who do not obey the rules is ever a good idea. To me, THAT is insanity.

 

[Faun]

Well, I think Iran will probably try to get nukes, whether a deal is made or not. If we were them, we would do the same and to deny that is just ridiculous....imho.

Soooo, this being my presumption that Iran is going to try to get nukes, then I would rather have us in on a deal that allows inspectors and others to make certain they are not doing something not in the agreement that can lead to that.

And if Iran just continues with a covert plan to build nuclear weapons, I would rather us have the ability to be within their Nation covertly snooping, and I would rather have sanctions lifted and covert agents of ours working within those private companies selling to them, getting us as much info as possible on any covert operations going on in Iran....

They hide things, they lie, and they do not cooperate with inspectors. As a matter of fact, they are STILL uncooperative. Still think it's a good idea?

Iran isn t providing needed access or information nuclear watchdog says - The Washington Post

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/20/w...-evades-queries-on-possible-nuclear-work.html

IAEA s Yukiya Amano Says Organization Can t Verify Iran s Past Nuclear Activity - US News

Yes, I do think it is STILL the better, and smarter OPTION.

No it is not. Tougher sanctions are the smarter option. When the people have to choose between food and nuclear energy, they will choose food.

The flaw in that logic is that it's not a choice the people get to make.

Sanctions don't work.

Despite the full force of sanctions, Iran was still enriching Uranium.

 

[JoeB131]

Do we execute people for being gay? For being raped? For cheating on their husbands?

Too bad. Yes we can dictate to them, and for the good of the world, we should.

When you sign up for the military and ask to come back in a body bag, you can dictate to Iranians all day.

Most of us don't think reforming their culture is worth one American Life.

 

[JoeB131]

No it is not. Tougher sanctions are the smarter option. When the people have to choose between food and nuclear energy, they will choose food.

Tougher Sanctions aren't an option.

The thing is, there are six parties in these talks. Five of them are not inclined to toughen sanctions. The Russians and Chinese want to trade with Iran. At some point, they'll conclude we aren't negotiating in good faith and just cut their own deals.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, I know, let's HELP THEM and make it EASIER for them to get the materials they need to make a bomb! Great idea!!!

Again, they already have the materials they need to make a bomb. They have uranium. They have centrifuges. They have the other goodies they need.

Our only option is trading supervision of their program by the IAEA in exchange for letting them have greater access to consumer goods.