Representative Jim Jordan destroys the "points of entry" misconception

[JGalt]

The overwhelming parroted response from the left is that "Most illegals and drugs come through the points of entry, so we don't need a wall."

During an Oversight Committee hearing Representative Jim Jordan(R) demolishes this fallacy as he questions some high-level Border patrol Agents. The truth is, there are more drugs and illegals flowing across the border than there are through the points of entry.

He makes a very good point...

 

[kyzr]

The left keeps parroting a falsehood about drugs interdicted. The truth is that 90% of the drugs SEIZED are at the ports of entry. That doesn't count the drugs NOT SEIZED, such as around the POEs, or flown in, or boated in, etc. We need that wall and more border guards and more technology, i.e. all of the above options.

 

[JGalt]

That's the equivalency of crimes not being included in the statistics, because they were never reported. Well over half the crimes committed in this country aren't even reported, and a larger number result in no arrest made.

 

[BlackFlag]

The overwhelming parroted response from the left is that "Most illegals and drugs come through the points of entry, so we don't need a wall."

During an Oversight Committee hearing Representative Jim Jordan(R) demolishes this fallacy as he questions some high-level Border patrol Agents. The truth is, there are more drugs and illegals flowing across the border than there are through the points of entry.

He makes a very good point...

Jim Jordan has thrown the entirety of the border patrol under the bus, as he thinks their massive wall, patrolling, and detection operations should be catching more than 10% of all drugs that come in, if only they had a few more walls

The number is accurate. Maybe it would tick down a couple points if a few more mules carrying a few pounds of cocaine were caught. But sending people to hike for days or weeks carrying a few pounds of drugs in the hopes that they and the drugs make it, and aren’t just sold for a new life in the U.S. — only a stupid or desperate drug dealer would choose that.

 

[westwall]

The overwhelming parroted response from the left is that "Most illegals and drugs come through the points of entry, so we don't need a wall."

During an Oversight Committee hearing Representative Jim Jordan(R) demolishes this fallacy as he questions some high-level Border patrol Agents. The truth is, there are more drugs and illegals flowing across the border than there are through the points of entry.

He makes a very good point...

Jim Jordan has thrown the entirety of the border patrol under the bus, as he thinks their massive wall, patrolling, and detection operations should be catching more than 10% of all drugs that come in, if only they had a few more walls

The number is accurate. Maybe it would tick down a couple points if a few more mules carrying a few pounds of cocaine were caught. But sending people to hike for days or weeks carrying a few pounds of drugs in the hopes that they and the drugs make it, and aren’t just sold for a new life in the U.S. — only a stupid or desperate drug dealer would choose that.

So what. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of the drugs and illegals come in through the wide open expanses of desert because they are ...well, you know....WIDE OPEN!

Why risk getting caught when you can traipse through the open desert.


Duh...

 

[Confounding]

We seize a lot more drugs in locations that have fortified border security.

HMMMMM...

 

[LoneLaugher]

Two years in. No wall. Sad.

 

[JGalt]

The overwhelming parroted response from the left is that "Most illegals and drugs come through the points of entry, so we don't need a wall."

During an Oversight Committee hearing Representative Jim Jordan(R) demolishes this fallacy as he questions some high-level Border patrol Agents. The truth is, there are more drugs and illegals flowing across the border than there are through the points of entry.

He makes a very good point...

Jim Jordan has thrown the entirety of the border patrol under the bus, as he thinks their massive wall, patrolling, and detection operations should be catching more than 10% of all drugs that come in, if only they had a few more walls

The number is accurate. Maybe it would tick down a couple points if a few more mules carrying a few pounds of cocaine were caught. But sending people to hike for days or weeks carrying a few pounds of drugs in the hopes that they and the drugs make it, and aren’t just sold for a new life in the U.S. — only a stupid or desperate drug dealer would choose that.

You underestimate the resourcefulness of the drug cartels. Do you think they like the idea of their shipments getting confiscated at the points of entry as they so often do with the majority of law-enforcement's attention focused there? That's not how they they in business.

 

[Auld Phart]

Two years in. No wall. Sad.

Two years in. No wall. Sad.

10 years in, GITMO still open.

Dont' ya just hate it when Presidents don't follow thru on their campaign promises?

 

[JGalt]

The overwhelming parroted response from the left is that "Most illegals and drugs come through the points of entry, so we don't need a wall."

During an Oversight Committee hearing Representative Jim Jordan(R) demolishes this fallacy as he questions some high-level Border patrol Agents. The truth is, there are more drugs and illegals flowing across the border than there are through the points of entry.

He makes a very good point...

Jim Jordan has thrown the entirety of the border patrol under the bus, as he thinks their massive wall, patrolling, and detection operations should be catching more than 10% of all drugs that come in, if only they had a few more walls

The number is accurate. Maybe it would tick down a couple points if a few more mules carrying a few pounds of cocaine were caught. But sending people to hike for days or weeks carrying a few pounds of drugs in the hopes that they and the drugs make it, and aren’t just sold for a new life in the U.S. — only a stupid or desperate drug dealer would choose that.

So what. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of the drugs and illegals come in through the wide open expanses of desert because they are ...well, you know....WIDE OPEN!

Why risk getting caught when you can traipse through the open desert.


Duh...

Quit being logical. You might as well be trying to teach dogs how to play the piano.

 

[BlackFlag]

We seize a lot more drugs in locations that have fortified border security.

HMMMMM...

We catch most drugs at places where vehicles carrying massive amounts of drugs are able to enter the country.

 

[BlackFlag]

The overwhelming parroted response from the left is that "Most illegals and drugs come through the points of entry, so we don't need a wall."

During an Oversight Committee hearing Representative Jim Jordan(R) demolishes this fallacy as he questions some high-level Border patrol Agents. The truth is, there are more drugs and illegals flowing across the border than there are through the points of entry.

He makes a very good point...

Jim Jordan has thrown the entirety of the border patrol under the bus, as he thinks their massive wall, patrolling, and detection operations should be catching more than 10% of all drugs that come in, if only they had a few more walls

The number is accurate. Maybe it would tick down a couple points if a few more mules carrying a few pounds of cocaine were caught. But sending people to hike for days or weeks carrying a few pounds of drugs in the hopes that they and the drugs make it, and aren’t just sold for a new life in the U.S. — only a stupid or desperate drug dealer would choose that.

You underestimate the resourcefulness of the drug cartels. Do you think they like the idea of their shipments getting confiscated at the points of entry as they so often do with the majority of law-enforcement's attention focused there? That's not how they they in business.

So they send juan with a backpack off into the unknown? No, those are the methods of broke and extinct cartels.

 

[JGalt]

We seize a lot more drugs in locations that have fortified border security.

HMMMMM...

We catch most drugs at places where vehicles carrying massive amounts of drugs are able to enter the country.

The thing is, you don't know that for a fact because you really don't have any idea how much of America's drug supply comes across an unprotected border, where there's a lessened possibility of being caught.

Step outside of your echo chamber for a few minutes and use your head for something besides a hat rack.

 

[Confounding]

We seize a lot more drugs in locations that have fortified border security.

HMMMMM...

We catch most drugs at places where vehicles carrying massive amounts of drugs are able to enter the country.

Would more border fortifications make the points of entry less optional and possibly increase the amount of drugs we seize?

 

[BlackFlag]

We seize a lot more drugs in locations that have fortified border security.

HMMMMM...

We catch most drugs at places where vehicles carrying massive amounts of drugs are able to enter the country.

Would more border fortifications make the points of entry less optional and possibly increase the amount of drugs we seize?

Not by much, if at all, if with all the manpower, technology, fencing, walls and barriers, they’re finding so little compared to POE’s.

 

[BlackFlag]

We seize a lot more drugs in locations that have fortified border security.

HMMMMM...

We catch most drugs at places where vehicles carrying massive amounts of drugs are able to enter the country.

The thing is, you don't know that for a fact because you really don't have any idea how much of America's drug supply comes across an unprotected border, where there's a lessened possibility of being caught.

Step outside of your echo chamber for a few minutes and use your head for something besides a hat rack.

The border is not unprotected. Again, throwing the border patrol and the billions and billions spent there under the bus.

 

[Confounding]

Not by much

I'd be willing to find out. It beats the hell out of a lot of other shit we waste our treasure on. You know, like giving away 40-50 billion a year to other countries.

 

[BlackFlag]

Not by much

I'd be willing to find out. It beats the hell out of a lot of other shit we waste our treasure on. You know, like giving away 40-50 billion a year to other countries.

Well I suspect you’d be willing the burn the country down tomget what you want, so I don’t doubt you.

 

[Confounding]

Not by much

I'd be willing to find out. It beats the hell out of a lot of other shit we waste our treasure on. You know, like giving away 40-50 billion a year to other countries.

Well I suspect you’d be willing the burn the country down tomget what you want, so I don’t doubt you.

Do you think it's fair to compare more border fortifications to burning the country down?

 

[BlackFlag]

Not by much

I'd be willing to find out. It beats the hell out of a lot of other shit we waste our treasure on. You know, like giving away 40-50 billion a year to other countries.

Well I suspect you’d be willing the burn the country down tomget what you want, so I don’t doubt you.

Do you think it's fair to compare more border fortifications to burning the country down?

The tactic you use of driving the nation to the brink of ccivil war, certainly.