REPORTER: Do you trust the election process this time around?

[westwall]

Trump has never made any bones about his disdain for democratic goverment and our elections. He praises dictators and attacks democratically elected leaders. Back in 2015, his first wife said he kept copies of Hitler's speeches by his bed. At the time I thought it was bullshit. However, after hearing his numerous comments expressing hatred for democratic goverment, I think it could be true. Clearly the man is a fascist.

Yet Trump adhered the the Constitution closer than any president in the last 65 years.

So, that leaves two possible conclusions about your assertions. One, you have no clue what you are talking about because you have done no actual research.

Or you are simply flat out lying.

So, which is it?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

From all I have read and seen of Trump, I believe he has always been a fascist. He certainly believes in an authoritarian goverment under a single ruler, free to make decisions without the burden of a parliamentary system. He seems to believe that he can fix American's problems if he is not burdened by a democratic goverment. What is most disturbing is so many of his followers agree.

Examples, please.

 

[Faun]

Trump is asked if he trusts the election process. He says he’ll tell you after it’s over, meaning it depends on if he wins. He doesn’t even pretend to support the democratic process. MAGA supporters are such liars because no honest person can defend this.

Translation: If I lose again, I'm crying fraud again. Only this time, it's civil war because I'll be facing a litany of felonies I can't get out of.

 

[Faun]

I trust democrats will cheat

And you're gonna be too stupid to find widespread fraud again for the next 4 years.

 

[Faun]

BULLSHIT. Just as in 2020, it really depends on how the election goes and is held and not just whether he wins or not. Why do you lie so much?
J6 wasn't about Trump losing, it was about how the election was held then all questions and doubts dismissed, swept under the table and everyone shadow-banned for asking, then all the media lying saying all doubts were baseless and disproven mere days after the election before any facts were even yet known!!!


TOTAL BULLSHIT. Quit lying that the 2020 election represented the "democratic process" when nothing about it was typical, and many states violated their own election laws counting many proven illegal ballots and votes to get to the results they wanted. I can only pray that 2024 goes better.

Liar. Trump planned all ongoing to cry fraud if he lost. He said so repeatedly and he's still saying so. He's the worst thing that's ever happened to free and fair elections in this country.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Yes Trump is a threat. I said it more than once.

But, an existential threat (as you put it)? No.

Pretty direct, if you ask me. Surely we agree that there is a difference.

Do you not agree that he is a threat?

He’s no threat.

He left the presidency on January 20th peacefully.

If he had refused and tried to stay in with some sort of force, you’d have a point.

But… he didn’t, and, you don’t

 

[SweetTea]

Most states electoral votes are determined by the vote of the largest cities in those states. Since these states are winner take all, those rural voters have “no representation” as you would allege.

But it wouldn’t matter in those states either because the vast majority of people live in the large cities. At the national level a popular vote would remove representation from states like mine that is red, which currently has representation. CA has lot more people than my state. The shear number of votes coming from their large urban areas would essentially nullify votes from Wyoming, for example.

 

[Marener]

But it wouldn’t matter in those states either because the vast majority of people live in the large cities. At the national level a popular vote would remove representation from states like mine that is red, which currently has representation. CA has lot more people than my state. The shear number of votes coming from their large urban areas would essentially nullify votes from Wyoming, for example.

Of course it would matter in those states! Those rural voters would actually have their votes counted towards the national total. That matters.

As I said, a few rural voters like in Wyoming, have their votes counted more but the majority have their votes completely ignored. The states with the largest population of Republican voters is California, but their votes might as well not count. These are all totally arbitrary outcomes, which makes no sense.

Under a national popular vote, EVERYONE has representation because EVERYONE has their vote counted. There's more representation in a national popular vote because nothing is arbitrary. Now, your vote may or may not count depending on which side of an invisible arbitrary line you live on.

 

[SweetTea]

Of course it would matter in those states! Those rural voters would actually have their votes counted towards the national total. That matters.

As I said, a few rural voters like in Wyoming, have their votes counted more but the majority have their votes completely ignored. The states with the largest population of Republican voters is California, but their votes might as well not count. These are all totally arbitrary outcomes, which makes no sense.

Under a national popular vote, EVERYONE has representation because EVERYONE has their vote counted. There's more representation in a national popular vote because nothing is arbitrary. Now, your vote may or may not count depending on which side of an invisible arbitrary line you live on.

The popular vote typically goes Democrat. This is the only reason Democrats are interested. They wouldn’t have to go to so much trouble shipping immigrants around to swing states to try to influence elections. Large cities are group-think tanks and indoctrination centers and by definition, very populous. The popular vote from NYC’s 5 burroughs alone, only counting Democratic votes(~1.6 million) in 2020, would remove any potential of representation from Wyoming and Montana even if every person in those states voted and voted Republican.

This would be even further skewed as more people in the 5 burroughs voted, assuming the distributions of Republicans a Democrats remained the same. That is far too much power for one city to have. They have completely desperate ideas, values and concerns than Montana or Wyoming. Assuming there is a finite amount of government resources available, no politician would have any desire to devote any money to these states because they wouldn’t matter. As it stands now, a Republican could lose these states if he completely ignored their needs or concerns.

The founding fathers got it right. A simple majority opens a huge can of worms that would not be beneficial(arguably) but to a select few large urban areas.

 

[Marener]

The popular vote typically goes Democrat. This is the only reason Democrats are interested. They wouldn’t have to go to so much trouble shipping immigrants around to swing states to try to influence elections. Large cities are group-think tanks and indoctrination centers and by definition, very populous. The popular vote from NYC’s 5 burroughs alone, only counting Democratic votes(~1.6 million) in 2020, would remove any potential of representation from Wyoming and Montana even if every person in those states voted and voted Republican.

This would be even further skewed as more people in the 5 burroughs voted, assuming the distributions of Republicans a Democrats remained the same. That is far too much power for one city to have. They have completely desperate ideas, values and concerns than Montana or Wyoming. Assuming there is a finite amount of government resources available, no politician would have any desire to devote any money to these states because they wouldn’t matter. As it stands now, a Republican could lose these states if he completely ignored their needs or concerns.

The founding fathers got it right. A simple majority opens a huge can of worms that would not be beneficial(arguably) but to a select few large urban areas.

All the problems you complain about are actually WORSE under the electoral college.

Wyoming has 3 electoral votes. Illinois’s has 19 and that’s completely controlled by the city of Chicago.

So under your framing, Chicago wipes out Wyoming 6 rimes over.

The founding fathers didn’t think ANYONE should be voting for president. If they got it right, how come you don’t want to go back to that system?

If we are going to let people vote for president, we should count their votes. No one is campaigning for Wyoming. It’s pointless. Open up the popular vote and you’d have Republicans campaigning in California. You’d have Dems campaigning in New Orleans. It would actually INCREASE representation, not decrease it.

 

[dblack]

Yes Trump is a threat. I said it more than once.

But, an existential threat (as you put it)? No.

Pretty direct, if you ask me. Surely we agree that there is a difference.

Do you not agree that he is a threat?

I agree you'll dodge until the cows come home.

If Dems were really worried about Trump they'd nominate a centrist who could defeat him easily. But they'd rather roll the dice because they're more interested in advancing their culture war agenda.

 

[dblack]

Hilarious

You miss the jobs report today or just ignorant?

The government doesn't run the economy, and I don't want our leaders pre-occupied with trying to manipulate it.

 

[Lastamender]

Look at you, literally calling 10s of 1000s of people you don't know corrupt liars.

All to polish the scrotum of a fat rapist charity thief who wouldn't give you a squirt of piss, if you were on fire.

How embarrassing for you.

And you never demonize Trump supporters? Hit the road whiny bastard.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He left the presidency on January 20th peacefully.

Because the alternative was being frog walked to a holding cell. After his violent attempt to overthrow democracy failed.

Is he 80 years old or 8? You sure do have low standards.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I agree you'll dodge until the cows come home.

If Dems were really worried about Trump they'd nominate a centrist who could defeat him easily. But they'd rather roll the dice because they're more interested in advancing their culture war agenda.

It was a very direct response to your comment. Spare me the weak trolling.

Which candidate? You forgot to say.

Not the candidate that got 81 million votes as Biden's replacement?

Okay, let's hear your suggestions.

 

[otto105]

The government doesn't run the economy, and I don't want our leaders pre-occupied with trying to manipulate it.

Hilarious


Bet you have posted about the price of eggs and blamed Biden.

Idiot

 

[Flopper]

Hilarious

You miss the jobs report today or just ignorant?

Strong job report. Inflation at 2.5% but the surprising news is wage growth at 4.5%, undermining the Trump claim of a horrible economy.

 

[ThisIsMe]

So, you didn’t read the factcheck or the articles presented.

The graphs are propaganda for low information fuckups like you.

The articles you posted didn’t clarify anything. They didn’t tell how those votes were distributed, the mail in ballots that is


You expect us to believe that the mail in vote went 99% for Biden, when the vote distribution overall was about 50% higher for Biden in all over areas? Statistically, Trump should have gotten a share of those mail in ballots, but it appears he didn’t get hardly any

That doesn’t make sense.

 

[otto105]

The articles you posted didn’t clarify anything. They didn’t tell how those votes were distributed, the mail in ballots that is


You expect us to believe that the mail in vote went 99% for Biden, when the vote distribution overall was about 50% higher for Biden in all over areas? Statistically, Trump should have gotten a share of those mail in ballots, but it appears he didn’t get hardly any

That doesn’t make sense.

Why would that be statistically impossible? Of the 170,000 ballot votes from democratic strongholds 159,000 went to Biden and 11,000 went to Fat Elvis.

In Madison the same thing happened. Not statistically impossible in either case.

 

[ThisIsMe]

No, that's a lie someone else made up and expected you to believe.

And you did.

lol, you can see the evidence…

You just choose to ignore it