Renewed Support For Muslim Registry Called 'Abhorrent'

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"Support" ranges from the relatively benign idea of bringing back Bush's National Security Entry-Exit Registration system, which expired in 2011 to something far more disturbing - the spector of internment camps and faith-based citizen registries. I honestly never thought people would be so scared they'd be willing to visit these ideas. You're far more likely to be a victim of a drunk driver, shooting accident or lightening strike than a victim of a terrorist attack on US soil.

But when people are scared, it's not very rational and it's much easier to find an easy scapegoat - vulnerable minorities who are still viewed as "not us" and therefore - it's easier to justify stripping them of their rights. I wonder, how advocates of this would feel if it was THEIR family, in the crosshairs of this "exploration of ideas"?

It's easy to understand the fear - ISIS is unquestionably brutal, Islamic extremism is sowing chaos, and most people in western cultures don't really understand Islam as a religious faith. When you have terrorists who can hide among a population like cancer cells biding their time - that fear, though misplaced in terms of real risk - is very very understandable.

On the other hand, it's also very easy to understand the fear of innocent American citizens who could find themselves being stripped of rights, treated differently than other Americans, and being in the cross-hairs of legislation that targets them soley because of their faith in a nation where faith is one of our foundational rights.

So how do you deal with something like this? How much FREEDOM and RIGHTS are you willing to relinquish for SECURITY? That's the real equation here - whether it's in issues of privacy and data (forcing companies to give access to private information) or issues of what to do with non-criminal American citizens who fall into a "suspect category". The spector of the McCarthy era returning suddenly seems very real.



Renewed Support For Muslim Registry Called 'Abhorrent'


 
Got a better plan for weeding out the terrorists, other than just allowing them into the country and blowing people up or gunning them down at will?
 
Got a better plan for weeding out the terrorists, other than just allowing them into the country and blowing people up or gunning them down at will?
The plan we have now seems to be working pretty well. Nothing is perfect, and neither will a registry. If it were effective, it wouldn't have expired in 2011.
 
If libturds call something "abhorrent", you can expect it to be an effective policy.

Jihadist assholes have no business in a free society. Their agenda is to destroy it. If 1 in 100 mooselimbs is a jihadist asshole, (it's a lot higher a ratio) that's way too fuckin many when you're talking about millions in this country alone.

Being a free society doesn't mean we have to hang ourselves on principles not shared by people who want to enter.

 
Got a better plan for weeding out the terrorists, other than just allowing them into the country and blowing people up or gunning them down at will?
The plan we have now seems to be working pretty well. Nothing is perfect, and neither will a registry. If it were effective, it wouldn't have expired in 2011.
Works better to cut off ALL immigration here. There aren't enough jobs as is and if there are skilled jobs that need filled then retrain or reeducate AMERICANS do them.
 
Got a better plan for weeding out the terrorists, other than just allowing them into the country and blowing people up or gunning them down at will?
The plan we have now seems to be working pretty well. Nothing is perfect, and neither will a registry. If it were effective, it wouldn't have expired in 2011.
Really?
 
We shouldn't register citizens.
We shouldn't let in refugees either. If someone comes from a place where they cant be vetted, then they shouldn't be here.
Better to be safe than sorry.
 
The plan we have now seems to be working pretty well. Nothing is perfect, and neither will a registry. If it were effective, it wouldn't have expired in 2011.

Except for the fact the country was run by a turd sandwich who said....

the meat puppet faggot said:
“Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

Never mind the Krauts and WOPs were rounded up and in many cases expatriated. Most of the Nips stayed here.

I digress. The Baron of Bed Wetters will clearly undermine the security of this country in favor of pampering a leftist victim group.

When mooselimbs police up their own assholes, I might trust them.


 
We shouldn't register citizens.
We shouldn't let in refugees either. If someone comes from a place where they cant be vetted, then they shouldn't be here.
Better to be safe than sorry.

Agree there on the registry. That's way too left wing..

However if an investigation reveals connections to islamic radical endeavors we should be throwing them out or keeping them under surveillance.
 
We shouldn't register citizens.
We shouldn't let in refugees either. If someone comes from a place where they cant be vetted, then they shouldn't be here.
Better to be safe than sorry.

Agree there on the registry. That's way too left wing..

However if an investigation reveals connections to islamic radical endeavors we should be throwing them out or keeping them under surveillance.
We already do.
 
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Got a better plan for weeding out the terrorists, other than just allowing them into the country and blowing people up or gunning them down at will?

There are a lot of ideas in between the extreme you present and the extremes of internment camps and registries.
 
I read the cited article and did not see the word "MUSLIM"----the issue seemed to be a screening of incoming people from
countries KNOWN TO HARBOR TERRORISTS. It seems reasonable to me. There are very few WHOLE countries that
have a 100% muslim population. . The USA is----sorta involved in a "war on terrorism" -----thus, countries that endorse
terrorism or harbor significant populations that endorse terrorism
are-----sorta ENEMY countries.
 
We shouldn't register citizens.
We shouldn't let in refugees either. If someone comes from a place where they cant be vetted, then they shouldn't be here.
Better to be safe than sorry.

Agree there on the registry. That's way too left wing..

However if an investigation reveals connections to islamic radical endeavors we should be throwing them out or keeping them under surveillance.
We already do.

we do? can you cite some references?
 
Got a better plan for weeding out the terrorists, other than just allowing them into the country and blowing people up or gunning them down at will?
The plan we have now seems to be working pretty well. Nothing is perfect, and neither will a registry. If it were effective, it wouldn't have expired in 2011.
Works better to cut off ALL immigration here. There aren't enough jobs as is and if there are skilled jobs that need filled then retrain or reeducate AMERICANS do them.
Yeah but there jobs Americans wont do, why won they do them?

Because people are paid to sit in their ass.
 
We shouldn't register citizens.
We shouldn't let in refugees either. If someone comes from a place where they cant be vetted, then they shouldn't be here.
Better to be safe than sorry.

Agree there on the registry. That's way too left wing..

However if an investigation reveals connections to islamic radical endeavors we should be throwing them out or keeping them under surveillance.
We already do.

we do? can you cite some references?
References to what? The NSA? DHS? The present system works. What do you think needs to change?
 
We already do.

OK...

We obviously need to do a better fuckin job then.

2001.09.11 USA New York, NY 2752 251 Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
2001.09.11 USA Washington, DC 184 53 Nearly 200 people are killed when Islamic hijackers steer a plane full of people into the Pentagon.
2001.09.11 USA Shanksville, PA 40 0 Forty passengers are killed after Islamic radicals hijack the plane in an attempt to steer it into the U.S. Capitol building.
2002.03.19 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
2002.05.27 USA Denton, TX 1 0 Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
2002.07.04 USA Los Angeles, CA 2 0 Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
2002.09.21 USA Atlanta, GA 1 0 Muslim terrorists gun down an employee at a liquor store.
2002.09.21 USA Montgomery, AL 1 1 Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
2002.09.23 USA Baton Rouge, LA 1 0 A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
2002.10.02 USA Wheaton, MD 1 0 Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
2002.10.03 USA Montgomery County, MD 5 0 Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
2002.10.09 USA Manassas, VA 1 1 A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
2002.10.11 USA Fredericksburg, VA 1 0 Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
2002.10.14 USA Arlington, VA 1 0 A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
2002.10.22 USA Aspen Hill, MD 1 0 A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
2003.08.06 USA Houston, TX 1 0 After undergoing a 'religious revival', a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4" butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
2004.04.15 USA Scottsville, NY 1 2 In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
2006.06.16 USA Baltimore, MD 1 0 A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim medical student in an unprovoked terror attack.
2006.06.25 USA Denver, CO 1 5 Saying that it was 'Allah's choice', a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
2006.07.28 USA Seattle, WA 1 5 An 'angry' Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
2008.01.01 USA Irving, TX 2 0 A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their 'Western' lifestyle.
2008.07.06 USA Jonesboro, GA 1 0 A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2009.02.12 USA Buffalo, NY 1 0 The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
2009.04.12 USA Phoenix, AZ 2 0 A man shoots his brother-in-law and another man to death after finding out that they visited a strip club, in contradiction to Islamic values.
2009.06.01 USA Little Rock, AR 1 1 A Muslim shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center explicitly in the name of Allah.
2009.11.02 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.' (10-20-09)
2009.11.05 USA Ft. Hood, TX 13 31 A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.
2009.12.04 USA Binghamton, NY 1 0 A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for 'persecuted' Muslims.
2010.04.14 USA Marquette Park, IL 5 2 After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to 'take them back to Allah' and out of the 'world of sinners'.
2011.04.30 USA Warren, MI 1 0 A 20-year-old woman is shot in the head by her stepfather for not adhering to Islamic practices.
2011.09.11 USA Waltham, MA 3 0 Three Jewish men have their throats slashed by Muslim terrorists.
2012.01.15 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 30-year-old Christian convert is shot to death by a devout Muslim for helping to convert his daughter.
2012.11.12 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 28-year-old American man is shot to death by a conservative Muslim over an alleged role in converting a woman to Christianity.
2013.02.07 USA Buena Vista, NJ 2 0 A Muslim targets and beheads two Christian Coptic immigrants.
2013.03.24 USA Ashtabula, OH 1 0 A Muslim convert walks into a church service with a Quran and guns down his Christian father while praising Allah.
2013.04.15 USA Boston, MA 3 264 Foreign-born Muslims describing themselves as 'very religious' detonate two bombs packed with ball bearings at the Boston Marathon, killing three people and causing several more to lose limbs.
2013.04.19 USA Boston, MA 1 1 Jihadists gun down a university police officer sitting in his car.
2013.08.04 USA Richmond, CA 1 0 A convert "on a mission from Allah" stabs a store clerk to death.
2014.03.06 USA Port Bolivar, TX 2 0 A Muslim man shoots his lesbian daughter and her lover to death and leaves a copy of the Quran open to a page condemning homosexuality.
2014.04.27 USA Skyway, WA 1 0 A 30-year-old man is murdered by a Muslim fanatic.
2014.06.01 USA Seattle, WA 2 0 Two homosexuals are murdered by an Islamic extremist.
2014.06.25 USA West Orange, NJ 1 0 A 19-year-old college student is shot to death 'in revenge' for Muslim deaths overseas.
2014.09.25 USA Moore, OK 1 1 A Sharia advocate beheads a woman after calling for Islamic terror and posting an Islamist beheading photo.
2014.12.18 USA Morganton, NC 1 0 A 74-year-old man is shot several times in the head by a 'radicalized' ISIS supporter.
2015.07.16 USA Chattanooga, TN 5 2 A 'devout Muslim' stages a suicide attack on a recruiting center at a strip mall and a naval center which leaves five dead.
2015.12.02 USA San Bernardino, CA 14 17 A 'very religious' Muslim shoots up a Christmas party with his wife, leaving fourteen dead.
2016.06.13 USA Orlando, FL 49 53 An Islamic extremist massacres forty-nine people at a gay nightclub.


 
Don't let any Muslims in period. End of problem.
It's not the end of the problem, since most of them are "homegrown" Americans. Being radicalized on the internet and in radical circles in their communities. The terrorists are already here; they're just directionless young men ripe for radicalization. Let's make sure to make them feel even more hostile toward white America by taking it out en masse against the entire Muslim community. Do you understand this?
 

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