Remembering USS Liberty: When Israel attacked America

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I find it absolutely amazing that some American citizens on this board side with a foreign government on the murder of U.S. sailors in international waters.

Shame on all of you traitors. ....... :mad-61:
 
sadly you are wasting you time as people on here claim to honor american veterans till you mention this
You have to realize that this is only one side of the story. It's a shame that Americans had to die and mistakes were made by the Israelis and by the Liberty. These things happen in war all the time and just about every combat unit has come under friendly fire at one time or another. BtW another thread using the same article was published on a USMB forum yesterday.

What mistake did the Liberty make? It wan't friendly fire.
They didn't make their presence known and there were similar looking Egyptian ships in the area. And it was considered friendly fire, not enemy fire.
 
Flying at 600MPH which is the Egyptian navy vessel and which is the US spy ship ?
Quite simple Poindexter.

The USS Liberty was flying a large American flag.

The Egyptian ships where flying their flag. ...... :cool:




The US do not supply extremely large flags for their vessels, and the muslims are known to fly false flags all the time. By the way the large US flag was not being flown it was draped over the superstructure.

"(1) The Liberty was flying a huge, brand new American flag. The flag was 5-by-8 feet. The weather conditions were ideal to ensure the flag’s easy observance and identification, because it was clear and sunny, with a wind-speed which made for a constant rippling motion in the flag. After the flag was shot up by the jets, the Liberty’s crew replaced it with a giant 7-by-13 foot American flag, which flew during the entire duration of the attack."

Israel Murdered U.S. Sailors and Tried to Sink Their Ship ... A Failed False Flag Attack Against the United States Washington s Blog
A 5 x 8 flag is not huge and a 7 x 13 flag is not gigantic. Get 500 feet from a 7 x 13 object an it looks like a little dot.
 
sadly you are wasting you time as people on here claim to honor american veterans till you mention this
You have to realize that this is only one side of the story. It's a shame that Americans had to die and mistakes were made by the Israelis and by the Liberty. These things happen in war all the time and just about every combat unit has come under friendly fire at one time or another. BtW another thread using the same article was published on a USMB forum yesterday.

What mistake did the Liberty make? It wan't friendly fire.
They didn't make their presence known and there were similar looking Egyptian ships in the area. And it was considered friendly fire, not enemy fire.

"For Lockwood and many other survivors, the anger is mixed with incredulity: that Israel would attack an important ally, then attribute the attack to a case of mistaken identity by Israeli pilots who had confused the U.S. Navy's most distinctive ship with an Egyptian horse-cavalry transport that was half its size and had a dissimilar profile. And they're also incredulous that, for years, their own government would reject their calls for a thorough investigation.

"They tried to lie their way out of it!" Lockwood shouts. "I don't believe that for a minute! You just don't shoot at a ship at sea without identifying it, making sure of your target!"

New revelations in attack on American spy ship - Chicago Tribune
 
Of course it was deliberate.



IN RECOGNITION OF ADMIRAL THOMAS H. MOORER -- HON. JOHN CONYERS, JR. (Extensions of Remarks - October 11, 2004)




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HON. JOHN CONYERS, JR.OF MICHIGANIN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVESThursday, October 7, 2004


  • Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, on February 5 of this year, a legendary American naval hero passed away in Bethesda, Maryland. Admiral Thomas H. Moorer epitomized the finest qualities of dedication and national service. His distinguished naval career spanned 41 years, including service as a naval aviator, as one of the first pilots off the ground during the attack on Pearl Harbor, as a decorated hero of numerous combat missions in the Southwest Pacific and the Battle of Midway, as Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet, as commander of NATO's U.S. Atlantic Command and the U.S. Atlantic Fleet, becoming the only officer in the Navy's history to command both our Atlantic and Pacific Fleets, as Chief of Naval Operations, as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and as a tireless advocate for American veterans. Admiral Moorer was instrumental in establishing the United States Navy Memorial on Pennsylvania Avenue. In numerous appearances before Congressional Committees, Admiral Moorer provided valuable testimony on a variety of national security concerns.


  • Capping this extraordinary career, Admiral Moorer made his final appearance on Capitol Hill on October 22, 2003, as Chairman of the Independent Commission of Inquiry into the 1967 attack on the USS Liberty. It is a privilege for me to introduce the Findings of the Independent Commission of Inquiry Into the Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty into the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD.FINDINGS OF THE INDEPENDENT COMMISSION OF INQUIRY INTO THE ISRAELI ATTACK ON THE USS ``LIBERTY,'' THE RECALL OF MILITARY RESCUE SUPPORT AIRCRAFT WHILE THE SHIP WAS UNDER ATTACK, AND THE SUBSEQUENT COVER-UP BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
    We, the undersigned, having undertaken an independent investigation of Israel's attack on the USS Liberty, including eyewitness testimony from surviving crewmembers, a review of naval and other official records, an examination of official statements by the Israeli and American governments, a study of the conclusions of all previous official inquiries, and a consideration of important

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    new evidence and recent statements from individuals having direct knowledge of the attack or the cover up, hereby find the following:

  • 1. That on June 8, 1967, after eight hours of aerial surveillance, Israel launched a two-hour air and naval attack against the USS Liberty, the world's most sophisticated intelligence ship, inflicting 34 dead and 172 wounded American servicemen (a casualty rate of seventy percent, in a crew of 294);

    2. That the Israeli air attack lasted approximately 25 minutes, during which time unmarked Israeli aircraft dropped napalm canisters on the Liberty'sbridge, and fired 30mm cannons and rockets into our ship, causing 821 holes, more than 100 of which were rocket-size; survivors estimate 30 or more sorties were flown over the ship by a minimum of 12 attacking Israeli planes which were jamming all five American emergency radio channels;

    3. That the torpedo boat attack involved not only the firing of torpedoes, but the machine-gunning of the Liberty's firefighters and stretcher-bearers as they struggled to save their ship and crew; the Israeli torpedo boats later returned to machine-gun at close range three of the Liberty's life rafts that had been lowered into the water by survivors to rescue the most seriously wounded;

    4. That there is compelling evidence that Israel's attack was a deliberate attempt to destroy an American ship and kill her entire crew; evidence of such intent is supported by statements from Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Undersecretary of State George Ball, former CIA director Richard Helms, former NSA directors Lieutenant General William Odom, USA (Ret.), Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, USN (Ret.), and Marshal Carter; former NSA deputy directors Oliver Kirby and Major General John Morrison, USAF (Ret.); and former Ambassador Dwight Porter, U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon in 1967;

    5. That in attacking the USS Liberty, Israel committed acts of murder against American servicemen and an act of war against the United States;

    6. That fearing conflict with Israel, the White House deliberately prevented the U.S. Navy from coming to the defense of the Liberty by recalling Sixth Fleet military rescue support while the ship was under attack; evidence of the recall of rescue aircraft is supported by statements of Captain Joe Tully, Commanding Officer of the aircraft carrier USS Saratoga, and Rear Admiral Lawrence Geis, the Sixth Fleet carrier division commander, at the time of the attack; never before in American naval history has a rescue mission been cancelled when an American ship was under attack;

    7. That although the Liberty was saved from almost certain destruction through the heroic efforts of the ship's Captain, William L. McGonagle (MOH), and his brave crew, surviving crewmembers were later threatened with ``court-martial, imprisonment or worse'' if they exposed the truth; and were abandoned by their own government;

    8. That due to the influence of Israel's powerful supporters in the United States, the White House deliberately covered up the facts of this attack from the American people;

    9. That due to continuing pressure by the pro-Israel lobby in the United States, this attack remains the only serious naval incident that has never been thoroughly investigated by Congress; to this day, no surviving crewmember has been permitted to officially and publicly testify about the attack;

    10. That there has been an official cover-up without precedent in American naval history; the existence of such a cover-up is now supported by statements of Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, USN (Ret.), former Judge Advocate General of the Navy; and Captain Ward Boston, USN, (Ret.), the chief counsel to the Navy's 1967 Court of Inquiry of the Liberty attack;

    11. That the truth about Israel's attack and subsequent White House cover-up continues to be officially concealed from the American people to the present day and is a national disgrace;

    12. That a danger to our national security exists whenever our elected officials are willing to subordinate American interests to those of any foreign nation, and specifically are unwilling to challenge Israel's interests when they conflict with American interests; this policy, evidenced by the failure to defend the USS Liberty and the subsequent official cover-up of the Israeli attack, endangers the safety of Americans and the security of the United States........"
Congressional Record - 108th Congress 2003-2004 - THOMAS Library of Congress
Silence and traitors brought and bouth
And they are now all under suspicion and so no longer allowed weapons, and more like there are maybe a couple of hundred tops.
provide a link... liar

What do you guys think of the USS Cole? Do their lives not matter because they weren't killed by Jews?
pbel, you should be ashamed of yourself, exploiting this matter every 3 months to promote your hatred of Jews!!

really and yet daily the holocaust is brought up. Lets not forget the failed attempt to blow up the American Embassy in Egypt done by jews to blame on the Egyptians.

By the way, I am one of those Jews who think that Pollard should die in prison, even though most Jews hail him as a hero. With Pollard, Israel's motive was to get vital info on Iraq's nuclear reactor that America was not willing to share. What would be Israel's motive to sink an American ship in the Liberty incident?

Blame it on Egypt.
 
Flying at 600MPH which is the Egyptian navy vessel and which is the US spy ship ?
Quite simple Poindexter.

The USS Liberty was flying a large American flag.

The Egyptian ships where flying their flag. ...... :cool:




The US do not supply extremely large flags for their vessels, and the muslims are known to fly false flags all the time. By the way the large US flag was not being flown it was draped over the superstructure.

"(1) The Liberty was flying a huge, brand new American flag. The flag was 5-by-8 feet. The weather conditions were ideal to ensure the flag’s easy observance and identification, because it was clear and sunny, with a wind-speed which made for a constant rippling motion in the flag. After the flag was shot up by the jets, the Liberty’s crew replaced it with a giant 7-by-13 foot American flag, which flew during the entire duration of the attack."

Israel Murdered U.S. Sailors and Tried to Sink Their Ship ... A Failed False Flag Attack Against the United States Washington s Blog
A 5 x 8 flag is not huge and a 7 x 13 flag is not gigantic. Get 500 feet from a 7 x 13 object an it looks like a little dot.


You will say anything to defend Israel, even when they kill American servicemen. A proud Israel Firster.
 
The Liberty was in International Waters and was ordered to steam to that location.

That "international waters" argument, even though it was a war zone, is disingenuous. Now Harlem has improved but let's say it is still dangerous to be there. I say to my family, "I want to take a walk in Harlem at 2 a.m." Family: "But it's a dangerous place and a dangerous time!" Me: "It's a public street and I have a perfect right to be there". I have put myself in harm's way, and my family aren't traitors to point this out to me.
 
Flying at 600MPH which is the Egyptian navy vessel and which is the US spy ship ?
Quite simple Poindexter.

The USS Liberty was flying a large American flag.

The Egyptian ships where flying their flag. ...... :cool:




The US do not supply extremely large flags for their vessels, and the muslims are known to fly false flags all the time. By the way the large US flag was not being flown it was draped over the superstructure.

"(1) The Liberty was flying a huge, brand new American flag. The flag was 5-by-8 feet. The weather conditions were ideal to ensure the flag’s easy observance and identification, because it was clear and sunny, with a wind-speed which made for a constant rippling motion in the flag. After the flag was shot up by the jets, the Liberty’s crew replaced it with a giant 7-by-13 foot American flag, which flew during the entire duration of the attack."

Israel Murdered U.S. Sailors and Tried to Sink Their Ship ... A Failed False Flag Attack Against the United States Washington s Blog
A 5 x 8 flag is not huge and a 7 x 13 flag is not gigantic. Get 500 feet from a 7 x 13 object an it looks like a little dot.


You will say anything to defend Israel, even when they kill American servicemen. A proud Israel Firster.
Not so, turdblossom. I am saying that a flag that size is almost impossible to pick out. A flyer has to make a few low, slow passes to identify a flag and the pilots were being shot at. People of your stripe have no cognative reasoning power. Mistakes happened that day and it is history.
 
A 5 x 8 flag is not huge and a 7 x 13 flag is not gigantic. Get 500 feet from a 7 x 13 object an it looks like a little dot.
Testimony by Liberty sailors stated the first Israeli jet did a low level fly-by of their ship.

That the jet passed by the ship so low. Many of the sailors waved to the pilot and could clearly see his face looking at them from the cockpit.

So obviously the Israeli pilot could have easily seen the American flag on the ship. ..... :cool:
 
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How does waving a flag make it an American ship? The U.S never told Israel that they would be sending a ship to the area. It could have been an Egyptian spy ship claiming to be American.
I swear, pro Palestinians are some of the dumbest people I've ever encountered.
 
Flying at 600MPH which is the Egyptian navy vessel and which is the US spy ship ?
Quite simple Poindexter.

The USS Liberty was flying a large American flag.

The Egyptian ships where flying their flag. ...... :cool:




The US do not supply extremely large flags for their vessels, and the muslims are known to fly false flags all the time. By the way the large US flag was not being flown it was draped over the superstructure.

"(1) The Liberty was flying a huge, brand new American flag. The flag was 5-by-8 feet. The weather conditions were ideal to ensure the flag’s easy observance and identification, because it was clear and sunny, with a wind-speed which made for a constant rippling motion in the flag. After the flag was shot up by the jets, the Liberty’s crew replaced it with a giant 7-by-13 foot American flag, which flew during the entire duration of the attack."

Israel Murdered U.S. Sailors and Tried to Sink Their Ship ... A Failed False Flag Attack Against the United States Washington s Blog
A 5 x 8 flag is not huge and a 7 x 13 flag is not gigantic. Get 500 feet from a 7 x 13 object an it looks like a little dot.


You will say anything to defend Israel, even when they kill American servicemen. A proud Israel Firster.

You idiot, even America said it was an accident. Does your propaganda and lies have any bounds?
 
I find it absolutely amazing that some American citizens on this board side with a foreign government on the murder of U.S. sailors in international waters.

Shame on all of you traitors. ....... :mad-61:

Says the Muslim who claims Sharia law is "creeping' on America.

:cool:
 
How does waving a flag make it an American ship? The U.S never told Israel that they would be sending a ship to the area. It could have been an Egyptian spy ship claiming to be American.
Again, everyone agrees, including the Israeli's, that the ship was in international waters.

Thus, the ship had no responsibility to notify anyone. ...... :cool:
 
How does waving a flag make it an American ship? The U.S never told Israel that they would be sending a ship to the area. It could have been an Egyptian spy ship claiming to be American.
Again, everyone agrees, including the Israeli's, that the ship was in international waters.

Thus, the ship had no responsibility to notify anyone. ...... :cool:

Of course there is responsibility. There was a war going on .
 
You are a traitor and disgrace to America. Go to the ME where you belong
I stick up for dead American sailors and that makes me a traitor??

You Israel 1st juden are really something. ..... :cuckoo: .. :lol: :lol:

You are just pretending to stick up for them. You are a traitor and you know it. You're the Muslim who wants Sharia law in the US, not .me.
 
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