Zone1 Religion is not needed if a "golden rule" is valued

[MarathonMike]

Which destroys your point !!! There must be fake Christians there must be fake non-Christians.What an idiot

You comment lacks any common sense, or class.

 

[ding]

not so, am always on alert for criminals - thx for making my point ...

hopefully vfa will take notice and be on the lookout for texas tycoons, their oil and the gulf of mexico - there's still a chance to save the oceans - maybe.

See post #878.

 

[ViewFromAbove]

Stupid lazy bullshit...The BIble rarely says things twice but this it does

MANY ARE THE WAYS THAT SEEM RIGHT BUT LEAD ONLY TO DEATH

History is overflowing with lazy unwise people like you who smilingly imposed Hell on society becaue they were doing what they thought wa 'best'

It's obvious that you are the lazy one; can't think for yourself, and believe in a book written 2,000 years ago (+/-) without using your brain to question its validity? Shame.

 

[Meriweather]

It's obvious that you are the lazy one; can't think for yourself, and believe in a book written 2,000 years ago (+/-) without using your brain to question its validity? Shame.

The Wisdom books are worth considering prior to dismissing Biblical stories. While much of the Bible is presented in story form, some are the most memorable stories ever written--stories that at first glance may seem shallow, but actually have amazing depths. There were worthy brains in those times, too.

 

[Libby von H]

There are MANY religions, and most are thousands of years old when few were able to read, and even fewer understood scientific knowledge about the universe that is evident today.
Which religion is best? Why would you choose a religion when its leaders don't understand natural, scientific reality?

Empathy and a golden rule is all one needs to be "ethical".

All that does is show the your idiocy, it blatantly accuses every religion of not knowing what you know, that everything beyond the Rule was useless. Now ,tell us all why revelation of God and His plans and His standard of morality and His view of life is superfluous.

If this were at all obvious as you say why would it even appear in religious texts. We don't put 2+2=4 in them
Your point is to me silly and a sign of a trivial personality

 

[Libby von H]

It's obvious that you are the lazy one; can't think for yourself, and believe in a book written 2,000 years ago (+/-) without using your brain to question its validity? Shame.

I did question AND CONVERTED from the questioning.
BTW how illogical to argue that a book could be right 2000 years ago but age into falsity.
Yes, you are trivial and unthinking. Euclid is older than much of the BIble and you wouldn't dare make the same claim there.

 

[Red Front]

I did question AND CONVERTED from the questioning.
BTW how illogical to argue that a book could be right 2000 years ago but age into falsity.
Yes, you are trivial and unthinking. Euclid is older than much of the BIble and you wouldn't dare make the same claim there.

Euclid's "The Elements" isn't a religious text but an ancient treatise on mathematical theorems. Religious texts in the hands of dogmatic, zealous scribes trying to prove their narrative or advance certain doctrines and dogmas, are much more likely to alter texts, interpolate..etc. Euclid is just an ancient math textbook. Do you believe the fanciful stories and myths of the Greeks or Hindus? How about the Roman accounts of their emperors performing miracles?

• 
  Julius Caesar
  
  • Sources: While direct miracles performed by Caesar himself are not prominently featured, his life and death were surrounded by omens and signs interpreted as indicating divine favor or significance. These are recounted in various historical works, including:
    
    • Suetonius' "Lives of the Caesars"
    • Plutarch's "Parallel Lives"
  • Description: These works discuss omens surrounding Caesar's life, such as the appearance of comets and other signs interpreted as indicating his divine favor or destiny. His deification after his assassination is a testament to his elevated status beyond mere mortality.
• Augustus (Octavian)
  
  • Sources:
    
    • Suetonius' "Lives of the Caesars"
    • Cassius Dio's "Roman History"
  • Description: These texts provide accounts of omens and prodigies associated with Augustus' birth and reign, promoting his image as a divinely favored leader. Suetonius, in particular, details various signs that were interpreted as omens of his future greatness and divine favor.
• Vespasian
  
  • Sources:
    
    • Tacitus' "Histories"
    • Suetonius' "Lives of the Caesars"
  • Description: These authors provide the most direct accounts of a Roman emperor performing miracles. Tacitus and Suetonius recount Vespasian's miraculous healings in Alexandria, such as healing a blind man by spitting on his eyes and curing a lame man by stepping on his hand, actions that were interpreted as signs of divine favor and power.

Why are you an atheist and disbeliever, when it comes to all of these other religions and ancient myths, but not towards the Christian texts and stories? Could it be that the reason you're a Christian is because you were born and raised in a Christian culture, with easy access to Christianity? Christmas, churches every few blocks, your parents and grandparents going to church, your peers are Christians, your teachers at school go to church..etc. You've been bombarded with Christianity since you were born, and hence you're now a cantankerous Christian zealot. You're not a Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist, you're a Christian because that's the religion of your culture.

 

[Libby von H]

Euclid's "The Elements" isn't a religious text but an ancient treatise on mathematical theorems. Religious texts in the hands of dogmatic, zealous scribes trying to prove their narrative or advance certain doctrines and dogmas, are much more likely to alter texts, interpolate..etc. Euclid is just an ancient math textbook. Do you believe the fanciful stories and myths of the Greeks or Hindus? How about the Roman accounts of their emperors performing miracles?

• 
  Julius Caesar
  
  • Sources: While direct miracles performed by Caesar himself are not prominently featured, his life and death were surrounded by omens and signs interpreted as indicating divine favor or significance. These are recounted in various historical works, including:
    
    • Suetonius' "Lives of the Caesars"
    • Plutarch's "Parallel Lives"
  • Description: These works discuss omens surrounding Caesar's life, such as the appearance of comets and other signs interpreted as indicating his divine favor or destiny. His deification after his assassination is a testament to his elevated status beyond mere mortality.
• Augustus (Octavian)
  
  • Sources:
    
    • Suetonius' "Lives of the Caesars"
    • Cassius Dio's "Roman History"
  • Description: These texts provide accounts of omens and prodigies associated with Augustus' birth and reign, promoting his image as a divinely favored leader. Suetonius, in particular, details various signs that were interpreted as omens of his future greatness and divine favor.
• Vespasian
  
  • Sources:
    
    • Tacitus' "Histories"
    • Suetonius' "Lives of the Caesars"
  • Description: These authors provide the most direct accounts of a Roman emperor performing miracles. Tacitus and Suetonius recount Vespasian's miraculous healings in Alexandria, such as healing a blind man by spitting on his eyes and curing a lame man by stepping on his hand, actions that were interpreted as signs of divine favor and power.

Why are you an atheist and disbeliever, when it comes to all of these other religions and ancient myths, but not towards the Christian texts and stories? Could it be that the reason you're a Christian is because you were born and raised in a Christian culture, with easy access to Christianity? Christmas, churches every few blocks, your parents and grandparents going to church, your peers are Christians, your teachers at school go to church..etc. You've been bombarded with Christianity since you were born, and hence you're now a cantankerous Christian zealot. You're not a Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist, you're a Christian because that's the religion of your culture.

You are a silly person who can't think or write.
I am not an atheist or disbeliever to all other religions and ancient myths.
Search, I have posted this many times, many

OTHER RELIGIONS
I do not undervalue at all the advantage of institutions which, though not Catholic, keep out evils worse than themselves. Some restraint is better than none: systems which do not simply inculcate divine truth, yet serve to keep men from being utterly hardened against it, when at length it addresses them; they preserve a certain number of revealed doctrines in the popular mind; they familiarize it to Christian ideas; they create religious associations; and thus, remotely and negatively, they may even be said to prepare and dispose the soul in a certain sense for those inspirations of grace, which, through the merits of Christ, are freely given to all men for their salvation, all over the earth. It is a plain duty, then, not to be forward in destroying religious institutions, even though not Catholic, if we cannot replace them with what is better; but , from fear of injuring them, to shrink from saving the souls of the individuals who live under them, would be worldly wisdom, treachery to Christ, and uncharitableness to His redeemed.

THE NATURE OF CONVERSION
True religion is the summit and perfection of false religions; it combines in one whatever there is of good and true separately remaining in each . . . . So that, in matter of fact, if a religious mind were educated in and sincerely attached to some form of heathenism or heresy, and then were brought under the light of truth, it would be drawn off from error into the truth, not by losing what it had, but by gaining what it had not, not by being unclothed, but by being “clothed upon.” True conversion is ever of a positive, not a negative character .


You are silly with your all-or-nothing idiocy. I am a Catholic , once agnostic /atheist and of Jewish descent

 

[Libby von H]

Euclid's "The Elements" isn't a religious text but an ancient treatise on mathematical theorems. Religious texts in the hands of dogmatic, zealous scribes trying to prove their narrative or advance certain doctrines and dogmas, are much more likely to alter texts, interpolate..etc. Euclid is just an ancient math textbook. Do you believe the fanciful stories and myths of the Greeks or Hindus? How about the Roman accounts of their emperors performing miracles?

• 
  Julius Caesar
  
  • Sources: While direct miracles performed by Caesar himself are not prominently featured, his life and death were surrounded by omens and signs interpreted as indicating divine favor or significance. These are recounted in various historical works, including:
    
    • Suetonius' "Lives of the Caesars"
    • Plutarch's "Parallel Lives"
  • Description: These works discuss omens surrounding Caesar's life, such as the appearance of comets and other signs interpreted as indicating his divine favor or destiny. His deification after his assassination is a testament to his elevated status beyond mere mortality.
• Augustus (Octavian)
  
  • Sources:
    
    • Suetonius' "Lives of the Caesars"
    • Cassius Dio's "Roman History"
  • Description: These texts provide accounts of omens and prodigies associated with Augustus' birth and reign, promoting his image as a divinely favored leader. Suetonius, in particular, details various signs that were interpreted as omens of his future greatness and divine favor.
• Vespasian
  
  • Sources:
    
    • Tacitus' "Histories"
    • Suetonius' "Lives of the Caesars"
  • Description: These authors provide the most direct accounts of a Roman emperor performing miracles. Tacitus and Suetonius recount Vespasian's miraculous healings in Alexandria, such as healing a blind man by spitting on his eyes and curing a lame man by stepping on his hand, actions that were interpreted as signs of divine favor and power.

Why are you an atheist and disbeliever, when it comes to all of these other religions and ancient myths, but not towards the Christian texts and stories? Could it be that the reason you're a Christian is because you were born and raised in a Christian culture, with easy access to Christianity? Christmas, churches every few blocks, your parents and grandparents going to church, your peers are Christians, your teachers at school go to church..etc. You've been bombarded with Christianity since you were born, and hence you're now a cantankerous Christian zealot. You're not a Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist, you're a Christian because that's the religion of your culture.

PLUS YOU SAY A STUPID THING ABOUT EUCLID

"
ut why would a medieval illuminator wish to depict Euclid as Christ?

To answer this question, we must consider the relationship between pagan and Christian literature in the Middle Ages. In the works of medieval (and even earlier) Christian authors, admiration for pagan literature was mingled with suspicion and even hostility. In the 3rd century, Tertullian famously asked: "What has Athens to do with Jerusalem? What has the academy to do with the church?" And Augustine, despite his very real appreciation of and indebtedness to pagan literature, deplored the time he had wasted on pagan texts in his youth, a sentiment also found in Jerome and many later Christian writers. Both Augustine and Jerome, however, proved ambivalent in their rejection of pagan learning, the latter suggesting that it could be made to serve Christianity, and the former justifying its study by comparing this pursuit to the plundering of Egyptian gold by the Israelites during the Exodus."

 

[Libby von H]

Euclid's "The Elements" isn't a religious text but an ancient treatise on mathematical theorems. Religious texts in the hands of dogmatic, zealous scribes trying to prove their narrative or advance certain doctrines and dogmas, are much more likely to alter texts, interpolate..etc. Euclid is just an ancient math textbook. Do you believe the fanciful stories and myths of the Greeks or Hindus? How about the Roman accounts of their emperors performing miracles?

• 
  Julius Caesar
  
  • Sources: While direct miracles performed by Caesar himself are not prominently featured, his life and death were surrounded by omens and signs interpreted as indicating divine favor or significance. These are recounted in various historical works, including:
    
    • Suetonius' "Lives of the Caesars"
    • Plutarch's "Parallel Lives"
  • Description: These works discuss omens surrounding Caesar's life, such as the appearance of comets and other signs interpreted as indicating his divine favor or destiny. His deification after his assassination is a testament to his elevated status beyond mere mortality.
• Augustus (Octavian)
  
  • Sources:
    
    • Suetonius' "Lives of the Caesars"
    • Cassius Dio's "Roman History"
  • Description: These texts provide accounts of omens and prodigies associated with Augustus' birth and reign, promoting his image as a divinely favored leader. Suetonius, in particular, details various signs that were interpreted as omens of his future greatness and divine favor.
• Vespasian
  
  • Sources:
    
    • Tacitus' "Histories"
    • Suetonius' "Lives of the Caesars"
  • Description: These authors provide the most direct accounts of a Roman emperor performing miracles. Tacitus and Suetonius recount Vespasian's miraculous healings in Alexandria, such as healing a blind man by spitting on his eyes and curing a lame man by stepping on his hand, actions that were interpreted as signs of divine favor and power.

Why are you an atheist and disbeliever, when it comes to all of these other religions and ancient myths, but not towards the Christian texts and stories? Could it be that the reason you're a Christian is because you were born and raised in a Christian culture, with easy access to Christianity? Christmas, churches every few blocks, your parents and grandparents going to church, your peers are Christians, your teachers at school go to church..etc. You've been bombarded with Christianity since you were born, and hence you're now a cantankerous Christian zealot. You're not a Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist, you're a Christian because that's the religion of your culture. dAG

Glad you are here, you are going to steer many from the road you are on.

NOBODY thinks you accept that stuff about those miracles.
And how dumb to say everybody BUT YOU is the result of their culture.

Not everybody in my American culture is Christian , you silly silly bigot