Redacted Russiagate docs show the feds are STILL lying about Trump and their putsch attempt

[Marener]

1) nah he said before he was elected he paid her
2) because trump didn’t break the law
3) NY doesn’t enforce federal campaign fin laws. Try again

1. That’s a lie. The moment Trump denied knowing about payment to Stormy Daniels

2. So you think that Clinton and the NI were wrongly convicted?

3. They enforce state law, which says it’s illegal to make fraudulent business records.

 

[Rawley]

Expert witnesses give testimony about the evidence at trial.

What was evidence was he to give testimony about?

Damn. The evidence that was "discussed extensively at trial" "It was the lynchpin of the case and there was considerable testimony about the fact that it was a campaign expense"

 

[Marener]

Damn. The evidence that was "discussed extensively at trial" "It was the lynchpin of the case and there was considerable testimony about the fact that it was a campaign expense"

Yes. Trump’s expert witness was absolutely entitled to discuss the evidence at the trial, but they didn’t call him.

 

[TimFitz]

was the meeting that Brennan arranged with Papadopoulos and Downer, which was a completely contrived attempt to link the Trump campaign to the email hacking of the DNC.

They knew that was BS all along, it was just designed to provide the excuse for the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane operation against Trump.

There will never be accountability. The FBI once targeted organized crime, today they are organized crime...

It's not a reformable organization. That is like reforming the mafia by jailing the heads of the families. Someone else just takes their place, and it all goes on just as before.

What meeting with Brennen. Was that before,or after Trump’s Senior Policy Advisor told Downer all about the Russia operation?

BTW, has anyone seen Joseph Mifsud?

 

[Rawley]

Yes. Trump’s expert witness was absolutely entitled to discuss the evidence at the trial, but they didn’t call him.

Because Merchan prohibited the expert from giving his expert opinion regarding the evidence at trial. Which why experts are employed at trial. One of the many reversible errors.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Because the scum that cooked up the Russian collusion hoax to damage Trump would never create charges and coerce Trump associates to make him look bad.
Grow up.

You grow up, you unsophisticated moronic MAGA lump of shit.

A fucking retired 3 star general like traitor Michael Flynn does not plead guilty unless he did something wrong. PERIOD.

 

[Marener]

Because Merchan prohibited the expert from giving his expert opinion regarding the evidence at trial. Which why experts are employed at trial. One of the many reversible errors.

Not quite. Trump wanted him to give an opinion on his interpretation of the law, not the evidence.

 

[dudmuck]

Because the scum that cooked up the Russian collusion hoax to damage Trump would never create charges and coerce Trump associates to make him look bad.
Grow up.

• The Mueller investigation did NOT exonerate Trump
• The phrase "no collusion* appears nowhere in the Mueller report
• Not only did the Mueller probe discover this, but also a Republican led senate panel found that Russia did, in fact, engage in "information warfare" and attempted to interfere in the 2016 election to the benefit of the Trump campaign and with the intention of damaging Clinton's
• Mueller says the Russians directly targeted our election systems.
• Russian intelligence conducted computer intrusion operations against entities, employees and volunteers working on the Clinton campaign. Translation — Russia used the Internet to fool American voters and hackers to attack Democratic computer networks.
• According to Mueller's report, the Russian campaign began in mid-2014. That's when the employees of what's known as the "Internet Research Agency" first came to the U.S. to gather the material that they would later use in their elaborate interference campaign.
• By the end of 2016, the Russians had set up fake social media accounts that reached millions of voters aimed at promoting Trump or dividing Americans.
• The Mueller report lays out how the Russian interference campaign ensnared real American political operatives, including the Trump campaign and its allies.
• For more than 100 pages, Robert Mueller lays out scores of Russian contacts with the Trump campaign or the Trump presidency.
• According to the report, Russian agents also posed as American citizens and tried to communicate with the Trump campaign to ask them for assistance.
• Despite the reports conclusion, Mueller writes that, "there were numerous links between the campaign and the Russians, that several people connected to the campaign lied to his team and tried to obstruct their investigation into their contacts with the Russians."
• WikiLeaks contacted the Russians privately on Twitter, saying: "If you have anything Hillary-related, we want it in the next two days preferable." And then, on July 22, three days before the Democratic National Convention began, WikiLeaks released more than 20,000 emails and other stolen documents. It was a clear attempt to embarrass Clinton and weaken her candidacy.
• In 2013, Donald Trump takes his Miss Universe Pageant to Moscow. The Mueller report points out, this is how the Trumps got to know Aras Agalarov, a Russian billionaire and ally of Vladimir Putin. He owned the event hall where the pageant was held.
• Things start moving pretty quickly. Within a few months, Donald Trump Jr. signs a preliminary agreement with Agalarov's company to build a big Trump Tower property in Moscow. Trump announces his run for presidency in 2015.
• Mueller points out that, three months later, a new effort to build the Trump Tower in Moscow begins, this time led by Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, and developer Felix Sater.
• Meanwhile, Felix Sater tells Michael Cohen he's working with high-level Russian officials. He emails Cohen, saying, "Buddy, our boy can become president of the USA, and we can engineer it. I will get all of Putin's team to buy in on this."
• The Moscow Trump Tower project is just one source of Russian contacts. Mueller outlines about a dozen of them in total. They vary widely.
• Campaign aide Carter Page meets with Russians and gives a speech in Russia.
• Michael Flynn gives speeches in Russia and has numerous contacts with the Russian ambassador, including a discussion of softening sanctions.
• Foreign policy and national security adviser, Jeff Sessions, also meets with the Russian ambassador.
• Campaign chairman Paul Manafort regularly shares internal polling data with a man tied to Russian intelligence.
• Fellow Trump aide George Papadopoulos repeatedly meets with a different man connected to Russian intelligence, who tells Papadopoulos the Russians have dirt on Hillary Clinton.
• Another contact point was the infamous New York Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016. That morning, Donald Trump Jr. tells colleagues he has a lead on negative information about Hillary Clinton. Russians pitched the meeting to Trump Jr., claiming they had dirt on Clinton. Trump Jr. responds, "If it's what you say, I love it."
• On Page 77, Mueller writes: "The acting attorney general appointed a special counsel on May 17, 2017, prompting the president to state that it was the end of his presidency."
• The Washington Post revealed that the president is under investigation for obstruction of justice. According to Mueller, three days later, President Trump tells White House counsel Don McGahn to call acting Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to say Mueller has conflicts and can't serve anymore. The president says Mueller has to go. McGahn doesn't comply.
• Mueller outlines in the report that Trump was found to have obstructed justice at least ten times
• Mueller chose not to indict due to the DOJ and Bill Barr's insistence that a sitting president cannot be indicted.
• Another serious charge about the president is that he tried to block Mueller from investigating him or his campaign.
• On page 89, Mueller writes: "Substantial evidence indicates the attempts to remove the special counsel were linked to investigations of the president's conduct."
• On Page 97, "Substantial evidence indicates that the president's effort to limit the special counsel's investigation was intended to prevent further scrutiny of the president's and his campaign's conduct."
• the investigation led to the indictments of 34 individuals
• Trump's campaign staff presented themselves as "attractive counterintelligence vulnerabilities"
• The steel dossier had nothing to do with Mueller's findings. In fact, the first probe began prior to the steele dossier being released and the investigation began in response to Russian cyber attacks on the DNC (find her emails!), and intel describing a Russian plot to reach out to the Trump campaign and provide information on Clinton.
• Trump encouraged Russia on national TV to engage in cyber attacks against Democrats. "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing."
• within five hours of candidate Trump saying those words, Russians largest foreign intelligence service targeted Clinton's personal office for the first time
• Both Rick Gates and Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI
• Roger Stone was charged with obstructing and lying to Congress about his contacts and the release of documents stolen by the Russians.

 

[TimFitz]

What did they charge Manafort and Flynn with? Sedition? Treason? Espionage? Working for Russia?

Manafort did work for the Russians. Specifically, he worked for Oleg Deripashka, the oligarch who acted as paymaster to FSB operations in Ukraine. He continued to work for Deripashka as Trump campaign manager. He gave the FSB the results of Trump campaign polling data, which they used to refine their fake news and troll farm operations on Trump’s behalf.

Flynn was also playing footsie with Moscow, but he was convicted of acting as a paid agent for a foreign government while serving in the US Government.

 

[struth]

1. That’s a lie. The moment Trump denied knowing about payment to Stormy Daniels

2. So you think that Clinton and the NI were wrongly convicted?

3. They enforce state law, which says it’s illegal to make fraudulent business records.

1) your link says not even a month later
2) no.
3) you claimed he violated camp fin laws

 

[Marener]

1) your link says not even a month later
2) no.
3) you claimed he violated camp fin laws

1. It occurred in 2018. Do you know when the election took place? Apparently not.
2. So you think the FEC thinks Trump is above the law?
3. Yes. I didn’t say he was prosecuted or convicted of campaign finance laws.

 

[Rawley]

Not quite. Trump wanted him to give an opinion on his interpretation of the law, not the evidence.

Nope. He was going to give his expert opinion to the FEC’s policy that expenses that exist “irrespective” of a candidacy are not deemed to be campaign expenditures. Something he opined on everyday as Chairman of the FEC.

But Merchan laughably held "There is no question this would result in a battle of the experts, which will only serve to confuse, and not assist, the jury,” Huge reversible error

 

[Marener]

Nope. He was going to give his expert opinion to the FEC’s policy that expenses that exist “irrespective” of a candidacy are not deemed to be campaign expenditures. Something he opined on everyday as Chairman of the FEC.

But Merchan laughably held "There is no question this would result in a battle of the experts, which will only serve to confuse, and not assist, the jury,” Huge reversible error

The FEC’s policy is not relevant to the jury.

As I stated earlier, Trump wanted him to give testimony about his interpretation of the law. Your post confirms this. That’s not appropriate testimony to give before a jury who is not supposed to interpret law, but to make findings of fact.

That’s not an error. That’s how the judicial system works.

 

[Rawley]

The FEC’s policy is not relevant to the jury.

Uh, campaign finance law? Helloo

As I stated earlier, Trump wanted him to give testimony about his interpretation of the law. Your post confirms this. That’s not appropriate testimony to give before a jury who is not supposed to interpret law, but to make findings of fact.

That’s not an error. That’s how the judicial system works.

Huge reversible error. Dude, find a real lawyer to help get the refund.

We're done, you're ineducable.

 

[Slade3200]

yeah, agreed. But we see that's not the case anymore, Comey really highlighted that

Not really. He pretty much bombed Hillaries campaign. Got fired by Trump for not kissing the ring but I don’t see where you think he flew a partisan flag

 

[Slade3200]

Trump was not convicted of violating in federal campaign laws. Stop lying. Cohen was, Clinton was, and the DNC was as well. Not trump

I didn’t say anything about federal campaign laws. If you’re claiming I said that then it’s you who is lying

 

[Marener]

Uh, campaign finance law? Helloo

He’s more than welcome to make his opinion about the law before the judge before trial. That’s when matters of law are decided.

Huge reversible error. Dude, find a real lawyer to help get the refund.

The judge decides matters of law. The jury decides matters of fact. His opinion about the law is not relevant to the facts before the jury.

Furthermore, if you’re saying the policy is that expenditures made irrespective of the campaign aren’t campaign expenses, that’s fine. I agree. That’s consistent with what was discussed at trial. The problem is the jury did not believe the NDA was made irrespective of the campaign, but for the purposes of the campaign.

 

[struth]

Not really. He pretty much bombed Hillaries campaign. Got fired by Trump for not kissing the ring but I don’t see where you think he flew a partisan flag

When he protected hillary by tossing the case

 

[Slade3200]

When he protected hillary by tossing the case

No that was up to the DOJ to take the case. Comey bombed Hillary when he made a public speach about it two weeks before the election and fueled trumps lock her up movement

 

[struth]

He pled guilty. He was guilty. End of story.

He withdrew his plea before the court accepted it, the DOJ then dismissed the case

Mueller’s team had withheld evidence