red flag laws: if the law is not intended for gun confiscation:

[bigrebnc1775]

If that's true why nothing about confinement and observation?

that would be part of them getting the help they need which is why we need Universal Healthcare.

no it's not. a judge orders the weapons to be confiscated but they don't order the accused to be confined for observation to see if they are a danger

 

[colfax_m]

if you're not to be trusted with a gun you should not be trusted to live without a caregiver by your side what's your IQ less than 70?

Do you trust children to carry guns around?

Children have caregivers next

At all times? Gross.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

if you're not to be trusted with a gun you should not be trusted to live without a caregiver by your side what's your IQ less than 70?

Do you trust children to carry guns around?

Children have caregivers next

At all times? Gross.

yes children have caregivers all the time do you have children? or do you not watch them at all?

 

[Hellbilly]

If that's true why nothing about confinement and observation?

that would be part of them getting the help they need which is why we need Universal Healthcare.

no it's not. a judge orders the weapons to be confiscated but they don't order the accused to be confined for observation to see if they are a danger

It should be changed. People should be able to get the help they need.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If that's true why nothing about confinement and observation?

that would be part of them getting the help they need which is why we need Universal Healthcare.

no it's not. a judge orders the weapons to be confiscated but they don't order the accused to be confined for observation to see if they are a danger

It should be changed. People should be able to get the help they need.

it should be changed but that was not the purpose of those laws

 

[colfax_m]

yes children have caregivers all the time do you have children? or do you not watch them at all?

Not at all times. Kids need to run out and play. Helicopter parenting is not great for them.

 

[progressive hunter]

Why is there no provision in those laws for observation of the accused?

The law is not intended for gun confiscation; to argue otherwise is a lie.

your premise is a lie,,,

 

[Hellbilly]

If that's true why nothing about confinement and observation?

that would be part of them getting the help they need which is why we need Universal Healthcare.

no it's not. a judge orders the weapons to be confiscated but they don't order the accused to be confined for observation to see if they are a danger

It should be changed. People should be able to get the help they need.

it should be changed but that was not the purpose of those laws

Glad we are in agreement.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Why is there no provision in those laws for observation of the accused?

Impractical.

Impractical? how so? when depriving a person of their rights there should be a good reason and if that reason is they are a threat they should be confined and watched for observation.
Therefore your response proves it's all about taking guns

Naaaaah, it's about senility. Or obvious mental illness. When a wife or mother realizes a family member has gone over the edge, there may be an issue about all those guns he's playing with so often. I think it's reasonable to have some recourse to law to deal with such a problem.

An extreme risk protection order can be issued only by a judge based on compelling evidence that such an order is warranted.

Firearms are not ‘confiscated’ pursuant to an extreme risk protection order; the orders are often limited to only a few weeks and the gun owner is at liberty to contest the order during a hearing and present evidence in support of returning the gun to the owner.

 

[debbiedowner]

Why is there no provision in those laws for observation of the accused?

In Florida by family members and law enforcement.

n the United States, a red flag law is a gun control law that permits police or family members to petition a state court to order the temporary removal of firearms from a person who may present a danger to others or themselves.

 

[miketx]

Why is there no provision in those laws for observation of the accused?

Impractical.

Bullshit, liar.

 

[colfax_m]

Why is there no provision in those laws for observation of the accused?

Impractical.

Bullshit, liar.

Sure. It’s super easy to have people under 24/7 supervision. No problem.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Why is there no provision in those laws for observation of the accused?

Impractical.

Bullshit, liar.

Sure. It’s super easy to have people under 24/7 supervision. No problem.

people go to jail everyday

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Why is there no provision in those laws for observation of the accused?

In Florida by family members and law enforcement.

n the United States, a red flag law is a gun control law that permits police or family members to petition a state court to order the temporary removal of firearms from a person who may present a danger to others or themselves.

and if they present a danger to people why aren't they confined for observation?
That is if they are a danger to people.
They have other means for a weapon

 

[colfax_m]

Why is there no provision in those laws for observation of the accused?

Impractical.

Bullshit, liar.

Sure. It’s super easy to have people under 24/7 supervision. No problem.

people go to jail everyday

For crimes. You realize we aren’t talking about crimes, right?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Why is there no provision in those laws for observation of the accused?

Impractical.

Impractical? how so? when depriving a person of their rights there should be a good reason and if that reason is they are a threat they should be confined and watched for observation.
Therefore your response proves it's all about taking guns

Naaaaah, it's about senility. Or obvious mental illness. When a wife or mother realizes a family member has gone over the edge, there may be an issue about all those guns he's playing with so often. I think it's reasonable to have some recourse to law to deal with such a problem.

An extreme risk protection order can be issued only by a judge based on compelling evidence that such an order is warranted.

Firearms are not ‘confiscated’ pursuant to an extreme risk protection order; the orders are often limited to only a few weeks and the gun owner is at liberty to contest the order during a hearing and present evidence in support of returning the gun to the owner.

but no confinement for observation requirement
IT'S ALL ABOUT GUN CONFISCATION NOT PUBLIC SAFETY

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Why is there no provision in those laws for observation of the accused?

Impractical.

Bullshit, liar.

Sure. It’s super easy to have people under 24/7 supervision. No problem.

people go to jail everyday

For crimes. You realize we aren’t talking about crimes, right?

what's the difference making threats to harm someone is crminal isn't it?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

yes children have caregivers all the time do you have children? or do you not watch them at all?

Not at all times. Kids need to run out and play. Helicopter parenting is not great for them.

really? so you never watch them from a distance? Got it
if you have children you are a very bad parent

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If that's true why nothing about confinement and observation?

that would be part of them getting the help they need which is why we need Universal Healthcare.

no it's not. a judge orders the weapons to be confiscated but they don't order the accused to be confined for observation to see if they are a danger

It should be changed. People should be able to get the help they need.

it should be changed but that was not the purpose of those laws

Glad we are in agreement.

if you are saying it's about confiscation of firearms without due process and illegal we are in agreement

 

[colfax_m]

yes children have caregivers all the time do you have children? or do you not watch them at all?

Not at all times. Kids need to run out and play. Helicopter parenting is not great for them.

really? so you never watch them from a distance? Got it
if you have children you are a very bad parent

No, just saying I don’t watch their every move. Try reading for a change.