Recording of trump pressuring Wayne County repubs not to certify 2020 election surfaces.

[martybegan]

As we know, Trump was made aware of the fact he lost the election shortly after it ended. Delusional beliefs to the contrary do not excuse violations of law.

We don't know that as fact, just as here say.

 

[Marener]

They were electors, just not electors as per the balloting.

It being a legal process was a question at the time.

It wasn’t a question. The laws of the state clearly indicate who is an elector and who isn’t.

They were not electors. Ever. By any means. They were nominated by the party to be electors, but being a nominee is certainly not the same as holding the office.

 

[martybegan]

It wasn’t a question. The laws of the state clearly indicate who is an elector and who isn’t.

They were not electors. Ever. By any means. They were nominated by the party to be electors, but being a nominee is certainly not the same as holding the office.

But it doesn't take into account potential fraud.

They were proposed Electors, just not voted in Electors, but they disputed that due to percived fraud.

 

[Marener]

But it doesn't take into account potential fraud.

They were proposed Electors, just not voted in Electors, but they disputed that due to percived fraud.

They claimed to be elected, which is a lie, not a dispute.

There’s a difference.

 

[martybegan]

They claimed to be elected, which is a lie, not a dispute.

There’s a difference.

They claimed because of fraud, which is in dispute.

I've given enough reasonable doubt to get them all off the hook, if the process going against them was fair that is.

The system will protect the system.

 

[Marener]

They claimed because of fraud, which is in dispute.

I've given enough reasonable doubt to get them all off the hook, if the process going against them was fair that is.

The system will protect the system.

They do not have the legal authority to make that claim, which makes it fraud.

You’ve shown you’re delusional by ignoring the law, ignoring plain English, and pretending that words dont mean what they mean.

 

[martybegan]

They do not have the legal authority to make that claim, which makes it fraud.

You’ve shown you’re delusional by ignoring the law, ignoring plain English, and pretending that words dont mean what they mean.

that was just recently decided by the SC due to not accepting the independent legislature idea.

good to know going forward, not prosecutable going backward.

 

[Marener]

that was just recently decided by the SC due to not accepting the independent legislature idea.

good to know going forward, not prosecutable going backward.

The fake electors are not the state legislature and not acting on their behalf or with their authority.

 

[martybegan]

The fake electors are not the state legislature and not acting on their behalf or with their authority.

And when the State Legislature didn't accept them, that ended the issue.

 

[Care4all]

And yet your side keeps keeping up the skeer by trying to get these people for "Fraud"

When all it is you are gunning for is prosecuting for political heresy.

What hearsay? They have concrete evidence...not hearsay....and that is why they are charged with the crime in several states...

 

[martybegan]

What hearsay? They have concrete evidence...not hearsay....and that is why they are charged with the crime in several states...

heresy, i.e. political thoughtcrime.

 

[Care4all]

heresy, i.e. political thoughtcrime.

There is no hearsay that got them charged with crimes. They have the evidence.

 

[martybegan]

There is no hearsay that got them charged with crimes. They have the evidence.

heresy:

belief or opinion contrary to orthodox doctrine:

 

[Marener]

And when the State Legislature didn't accept them, that ended the issue.

Apparently not since we both know their fraudulent votes were sent to Congress.

Again, they had no legal authority to be electors and the state legislature never granted them any authority. You can’t hide from that fact.

 

[martybegan]

Apparently not since we both know their fraudulent votes were sent to Congress.

Again, they had no legal authority to be electors and the state legislature never granted them any authority. You can’t hide from that fact.

And congress did nothing with them. All part of the process.

 

[Marener]

And congress did nothing with them. All part of the process.

It is not a part of the process. There is no legal justification or authority.

It was all fraud.

 

[martybegan]

It is not a part of the process. There is no legal justification or authority.

It was all fraud.

It was all the process.

 

[Marener]

It was all the process.

Not according to state law.

You can’t just make shit up and pretend like it’s normal.

 

[JimH52]

Trumpers expect their man to be doing this. They have no use for fair elections because bent elections are the only thing that gives them any power.

MAGA (formerly the GOP) is hoping to govern with a Minority. They are hoping the nut, RFK Jr, will peel off enough votes to allow them a win. The MAGA party has been ruling by minority for years.

 

[Lesh]

They thought they did under the independent legislature theory, or any other provision in a State Constitution.

They can “think” whatever they like.

It’s still fraud