Record number of American concerned about Climate Change

[daveman]

We have to worry when 6 out of 10 aren't concerned about climate change.

So far, it looks like the Klimate Kult's constant fear-mongering is having some slight effect, though.

 

[daveman]

What they are saying is the climate changes naturally and that's true. So they are correct. Climate change happens with or without humans. What they are ignoring is that the climate is changing BECAUSE of all the pollution we put in the air. 200 years ago no one in Europe, Russia, Asia, Mexico hell even Canada didn't drive. And we have 1/10th the population we have now but even if we had the same, they weren't all driving gas powered things. And we weren't producing so much cow meat for consumers. So all this stuff we are putting in the air, is heating up and possibly destroying the planet.

Do they deny Man Made Climate Change?

Correlation does not equal causation.

Sorry for wrecking your entire premise. Oh, well.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The excuse that I have heard is climate change is real But man didn't cause it. Not sure who the repubs say is to blame? Maybe dinosaurs?

Is it your assertion that the climate never changed before we were here?

 

[daveman]

Labors

Correction: Labor unions.

 

[sealybobo]

And of course, the left's solution is always world socialism. They never get around to explaining how it'll change the climate, though.

Are you kidding? Battery cars and bikes. Windmills. Hydro. Solar. More plant based food less cows? Insisting other countries participate.

invest in alternative energy solutions

 

[sealybobo]

Is it your assertion that the climate never changed before we were here?

People who say that miss the point. it’s man made global climate change. We ar3 heating the planet not Mother Nature. Too many of us.

 

[daveman]

Are you kidding? Battery cars and bikes. Windmills. Hydro. Solar. More plant based food less cows? Insisting other countries participate.

invest in alternative energy solutions

Ottmar Edenhofer, lead author of the IPCC’s fourth summary report released in 2007 candidly expressed the priority. Speaking in 2010, he advised, “One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth.”

There's a clear economic solution to climate change: Losers must bribe winners​

Our study shows that a $100 per-ton carbon-emissions tax growing at 1.5 percent per year above inflation plus appropriate generation - and region-specific net compensation payments (i.e. bribes) - would produce not just an intergenerational win-win, but also an interregional win-win. Indeed, our paper solves for the highest uniform welfare improving solution, delivering a lifetime net living-standard gain to all mankind, no matter when and where they are born, of more than 4 percent.

What does this deal comprise beyond the annually rising global carbon tax, which would raise today's U.S. gas prices by roughly one dollar a gallon? It would mean bribing current generations across the planet to accept the carbon tax and requiring almost all future generations to pay off the bribe, including accumulated interest. Future generations in certain very cold regions, particularly Canada and Russia, would receive money since they would be giving up the advantages to them of a warmer planet.

In the case of China, the world's worst carbon emitter, which largely holds the temperature of the planet in its hands, the optimal win-win policy involves major payments to current Chinese to tax carbon and, thus, burn far less coal. But it also entails major payments from future Chinese who, like everyone in every region and every generation, will be, on balance, equally better off.

UN calls for international tax to raise $400 billion to finance development needs​

The financial needs of developing countries have long outstripped the willingness and ability of donors to provide aid. Addressing this challenge, the “World Economic and Social Survey 2012: In Search of New Development Finance” (WESS 2012), proposes an international tax, combined with other innovative financing mechanisms, to raise more than $400 billion annually for development and global challenges such as fighting climate change.

The only solution to climate change is world socialism​

Yeah, that's socialists for you. The solution to EVERY problem is world socialism.

Global Warming A Back Door To Socialism - And Now Even The UN Admits It​

Power: As evidence discredits global warming, resistance to such facts by green elites reveals their real aim is bringing socialism in through the back door. But don't take our word for it. Listen to the climate change boss at the U.N.

Christiana Figueres, with the lumpy title of executive secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), came right out and said it: Democracy is a poor political system for fighting global warming. The really good model is communist China.

China is "doing it right," she told Bloomberg News Tuesday. "They actually want to breathe air they don't have to look at," she said with a straight face.

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The only thing clear here is the real motive of global warm-mongers. They're less interested in cleaning up the Earth than in controlling human beings in the name of "the common good" — just as the Bolsheviks once did, first in Russia, and then in China, where the tyranny continues to this day.

Global warming alarmists "want to change us, they want to change our behavior, our way of life, our values and preferences," according to a man who knows a thing or two about communist regimes, former Czech President Vaclav Klaus. In a speech to Australia's Institute of Public Affairs in 2011, he stressed:

"They want to restrict our freedom because they themselves believe they know what is good for us. They are not interested in climate. They misuse the climate in their goal to restrict our freedom. Therefore, what is in danger is freedom, not the climate."

Is socialism the answer to the climate catastrophe?​

Spoiler alert: He says yes.

Ending climate change requires the end of capitalism. Have we got the stomach for it?​

We will simply have to throw the kitchen sink at this. Policy tweaks such as a carbon tax won’t do it. We need to fundamentally re-evaluate our relationship to ownership, work and capital. The impact of a dramatic reconfiguration of the industrial economy require similarly large changes to the welfare state. Basic incomes, large-scale public works programmes, everything has to be on the table to ensure that the oncoming system shocks do not leave vast swathes of the global population starving and destitute. Perhaps even more fundamentally, we cannot continue to treat the welfare system as a tool for disciplining the supposedly idle underclasses. Our system must be reformed with a more humane view of worklessness, poverty and migration than we have now.

These people simply won't be happy with solar and wind.

They want to tear everything down, and they don't care how many die. It's for their own good, after all.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Labors

labors?....what company is that?...

 

[Old Rocks]

We are in a post glacial warming period and the climate is great for humans.

Over time the climate is naturally changing. Changing climate is the norm for planet. In the history of life on earth climate change has caused thousands of species to go extinct.

However, man made climate change is scam and has no verifiable scientific basis. Just lies, bogus data and correlations and predictions that never come true.

If you are concerned about man made climate change you are simply an idiot.

Every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University in the world has policy statements that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger. Against that we have people like you that have less than the equivalent third grade scientific education. Oh, who to believe.

 

[Old Rocks]

I'm sure the oil companies are heavily invested in green technology and when oil and coal no longer are used, they'll be the ones controlling the battery, wind, solar and nuclear industries.

Actually, there is a way to alleviate this. VPP's, and agrivoltaics. Yes, Shell and the rest are already working to get a handle on this. But they are a couple of decades behind the new boy on the block, Elon Musk.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

People who say that miss the point. it’s man made global climate change. We ar3 heating the planet not Mother Nature. Too many of us.

Uh-huh..... Sure we are.

 

[Old Rocks]

Is it your assertion that the climate never changed before we were here?

Yes, dumb fuck, climate has changed rapidly in the geological past. And when that happened, there were major and minor extinction events. Love it how you deniers can make one sentence nonsense statements and think that you have actually said something. When climate changes rapidly, there are causes and consequences. Today, we are the cause, and our descendants will suffer the consequences.

 

[daveman]

Yes, dumb fuck, climate has changed rapidly in the geological past. And when that happened, there were major and minor extinction events. Love it how you deniers can make one sentence nonsense statements and think that you have actually said something. When climate changes rapidly, there are causes and consequences. Today, we are the cause, and our descendants will suffer the consequences.

DOOMED WERE DOOMED WE HAVE TO GIVE MORE TAX MONEY TO THE ANGRY TEENAGER AT THE UN

Not a single one of your cult's doom predictions has ever come true.

 

[skookerasbil]

But here's the thing.....

Voters could not possibly be any more disinterested in climate change. In fact, most don't give a shit....election after election.

Well dOy...they have real concerns to worry about.

 

[skookerasbil]

Yes, dumb fuck, climate has changed rapidly in the geological past. And when that happened, there were major and minor extinction events. Love it how you deniers can make one sentence nonsense statements and think that you have actually said something. When climate changes rapidly, there are causes and consequences. Today, we are the cause, and our descendants will suffer the consequences.

Human racism is ghey....few ascribe to it.

And what's with the anger and head explosions? Almost never happens when somebody thinks they are winning the debate. Just sayin'....btw....the whole "dumb fuck" presentation reeks of somebody lOsiNg.

Gotta work on that sense of humor. In the vast configuration of things, this forum is spectacularly irrelevant...very, very few members are drawn into this forum over the years, particularly the climate crusader-types. It's because most don't care....

 

[sealybobo]

Is it your assertion that the climate never changed before we were here?

My assertion is

Oceans Hit Record-High Temperatures In 2021, Another Sign Of Worsening Climate Crisis​

The past eight years have been the eight hottest ever recorded on the planet.

Tell me, are they lying?

In a report released Thursday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, scientists found that 2021 was the sixth-warmest year on record. Overall, the past eight years have been the hottest years since record-keeping began in 1880

Earth’s average land and ocean surface temperature was 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit above the 20th century average.
And temperatures in the world’s oceans reached a record high. High ocean heat can contribute to sea-level rise, NOAA said, and cause more-severe storms and floods.

“Science leaves no room for doubt: Climate change is the existential threat of our time,” NASA administrator Bill Nelson said in a news release. The year-after-year temperature highs for the planet “[underscore] the need for bold action to safeguard the future of our country – and all of humanity,” he said.
NASA’s scientists pointed clearly to the cause of the worsening climate crisis: “human activities that have increased emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.”
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Oceans Hit Record-High Temperatures In 2021, Another Sign Of Worsening Climate Crisis

The past eight years have been the eight hottest ever recorded on the planet.

www.huffpost.com

Now go ahead and attack the Huffington Post.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University in the world has policy statements that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger. Against that we have people like you that have less than the equivalent third grade scientific education. Oh, who to believe.

And Nobel Prize winner Michael Mann.
Don't forget him.....and don't molest that data.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The Climate Change Cultists are like the Fool on the Hill waiting for the end of the world.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

If a person is a Climate Change Cultist, they should not be using electricity or cars, or buses, or planes, or trains, cellphones, the internet......

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

It takes fossil fuel to cultivate crops and to deliver crops.
The Climate Change Cultist should only eat hand grown food.