Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"?

[BluesLegend]

Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

Because they are mooching deadbeats who want someone else to pay for their healthcare insurance.

 

[BluesLegend]

Lol
Making anything mandatory is not taking care of anybody... It’s controlling everybody

Dem policies are so awesome, they have to threaten people to obey with fines.

 

[Polishprince]

Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

Because they are mooching deadbeats who want someone else to pay for their healthcare insurance.

They also think that they won't be subject to the same abominations that everyone else would be.

They are wrong of course.

 

[Rustic]

Republican Plan: Nothing. Continue forever with skyrocketing costs.

Democratic Plan: Universal health care.

Gee, I wonder which plan will win out in the long run!

Lol
Only fools think the federal government should be involved in people’s personal lives...

 

[Rustic]

If you are going to vote Republican next year, then you are choosing Obamacare. Because let's face it, Trump and the Republicans have no health care reform plan and so we will be stuck with some form of Obamacare if they win.

I know how a lot of people around here hate facts (which like trained seals they reflexively call "fake news"), but I can't help myself. So now, some figures.

U.S. Health Care Costs Skyrocketed to $3.65 Trillion in 2018

Health Insurance Costs Surpass $20,000 Per Year, Hitting a Record

Thanks, Trump!

We spent $3.65 Trillion on health care last year. That's your insurance premiums and co-pays, plus your employer's share of premiums, plus the government's outlays for Medicaid, Medicare, etc.

$3.65 trillion. That would be $36.5 trillion over ten years...except it will actually be much more than that since health care costs have been skyrocketing for many decades, long before Obamacare.

So here's another number: CMS Estimates Annual U.S. Health Care Spending to Hit $5.96 Trillion by 2027


In short, we literally cannot afford the Republican "do nothing" health care plan.


This is what makes UHC inevitable.

Lol
Only fools think federal government involvement in anything is Beneficial let alone affordable… That’s the best joke I’ve heard all day the government is here to help? Shut the fuck up

 

[Rustic]

Republican Plan: Nothing. Continue forever with skyrocketing costs.

Democratic Plan: Universal health care.

Gee, I wonder which plan will win out in the long run!

Yes, because healthcare run like the DMV will make the people happy.

Then you will bitch about lower doctor quality and longer waits.

Ok, then lets go with a public option plan that gives people choice between public and private.

Lol
Anything to do with healthcare or any other socialist entitlement program should be 100% voluntary to be worth a shit

 

[Dragonlady]

Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

Because they are mooching deadbeats who want someone else to pay for their healthcare insurance.

Because the rest of the world spends half of what the USA spends on healthcare that is ranked #37 in the world, and has poor outcomes. US life expectancy is DECLINING while the rest of the first world is living longer. It is more profitable for your health care system to encourage sickness and addiction than to encourage the health of your nation.

Big Pharma is now paying billions for addicting millions of Americans to opiods. Advanced medicine and the costs of getting sick are driving the vast majority of personal bankruptcies. The rehap industry is cycling addicts into and out of 28 day treatment programs, because addicts are such dependable customers.

And women can't get their health insurance to pay for reproductive health issues, while more American women die in childbirth than any first world nation, and the infant mortality rate is the highest in the first world.

 

[Rustic]

If we want to declare ourselves as the greatest country on the planet, we should probably act like it.

That begins with taking care of our own.

And giving government another lever to control the "undesirable"

"Hey Mr Conservative, don't like government healthcare? 5 month wait for you"

Cool story.

You know wanna be thugs like you would leap at the opportunity.

Right. I want all people to have quality healthcare makes me a thug.

Your "logic" process is breath-taking.

Lol
Whether people want it or not, huh? Communist much?

 

[Rustic]

Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

Because they are mooching deadbeats who want someone else to pay for their healthcare insurance.

Because the rest of the world spends half of what the USA spends on healthcare that is ranked #37 in the world, and has poor outcomes. US life expectancy is DECLINING while the rest of the first world is living longer. It is more profitable for your health care system to encourage sickness and addiction than to encourage the health of your nation.

Big Pharma is now paying billions for addicting millions of Americans to opiods. Advanced medicine and the costs of getting sick are driving the vast majority of personal bankruptcies. The rehap industry is cycling addicts into and out of 28 day treatment programs, because addicts are such dependable customers.

And women can't get their health insurance to pay for reproductive health issues, while more American women die in childbirth than any first world nation, and the infant mortality rate is the highest in the first world.

Lol
Whenever the federal government is involved in anything it fucks it up, that’s the last thing we need is more fucked up socialist entitlement programs in this country.

 

[Rustic]

Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

could you list 3 reasons why you ALWAYS misrepresent the liberal point?


I think CHEAP and AFFORDABLE health care is a good idea!

That way EVERYONE could have access to health care.



golly....I truly am evil!

Lol
Says a control freak

 

[Rustic]

That's what every other educated country has.
Even the UK

Just wait for the inevitable - "Yeah but don't you know that those countries are much smaller!!!"

Move there you commie fuck.

That was the next canned response I was going to go with. Glad you did the legwork for me.

Do it, dickless.

My oh my, our uneducated rubes are out today.
Must be socialist benefits day.
Our rubes are so dumb they don't know their benefits are socialist.

Lol
Socialism is the reason why this country has failed, socialist entitlement programs are unsustainable… fact

 

[Rustic]

Just wait for the inevitable - "Yeah but don't you know that those countries are much smaller!!!"

Move there you commie fuck.

That was the next canned response I was going to go with. Glad you did the legwork for me.

Do it, dickless.

My oh my, our uneducated rubes are out today.
Must be socialist benefits day.
Our rubes are so dumb they don't know their benefits are socialist.

Shhhh, he's a self made man who lives off the land and everything he has he earned all by himself. He paved his own roads and even started his own Fire company to deal with any fires that impact his property. He also pays for all of his own medical expenses out of his pocket.

Lol
Without capitalism there would be no America… Fact

 

[Rustic]

Since Trump does not have a clue what to do about healthcare, all his rube herd can do is piss on anyone else's ideas.

This has been the GOP strategy for a very long time: Attack the other guy's ideas to cover up your inadequacies.

Lol
The fuck up is involving the federal government in people’s personal lives… Are you that stupid?

 

[Rustic]

Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

could you list 3 reasons why you ALWAYS misrepresent the liberal point?


I think CHEAP and AFFORDABLE health care is a good idea!

That way EVERYONE could have access to health care.



golly....I truly am evil!

Health Insurance is not a right. Throw about 20 Million Illegals out of this country; ask Pelosi to allow us to buy it across state lines, and the cost of health insurance will drop.

No one is ever denied legitimate health care.

Show me Trump's replacement for Obamacare.


Oh, that's right. He doesn't have one.

No wonder all you can do is piss on everyone else's ideas. Any jackass can do THAT!

It takes a real man to put a better solution on the table.

Lol
The federal government should never be involved in healthcare...

 

[Rustic]

Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

could you list 3 reasons why you ALWAYS misrepresent the liberal point?


I think CHEAP and AFFORDABLE health care is a good idea!

That way EVERYONE could have access to health care.



golly....I truly am evil!

Health Insurance is not a right. Throw about 20 Million Illegals out of this country; ask Pelosi to allow us to buy it across state lines, and the cost of health insurance will drop.

No one is ever denied legitimate health care.

Show me Trump's replacement for Obamacare.


Oh, that's right. He doesn't have one.

No wonder all you can do is piss on everyone else's ideas. Any jackass can do THAT!

It takes a real man to put a better solution on the table.

Actual Trump quotes.

Before: "You're going to have such great health care at a tiny fraction of the cost, and it's going to be so easy!"

After: "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated!"

Lol
The federal government can’t stand under its own weight, of course it can’t figure shit out...

 

[Rustic]

Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

You left off of the real reasons why the left favours single payers healthcare:

1. A 25% reduction in administration costs. All first world nations with single payer healthcare pay administration costs of less than 10% of their total costs. In the USA, administration costs eat up nearly 35% of every health care dollar.

2. Currently 35,000 Americans die every year because of the lack of access to quality health care. Those who rely on emergency care when they get sick, are not getting preventative care, and wait until they are far more seriously ill before seeking care, making treatment and care far more expensive if they had sought care before the illness had advanced to this point. Universal health care means everyone has equal access to basic coverage.

3. Tying health insurance to your employer makes it difficult and risky to change jobs. With universal health care, changing jobs has no impact on your health care at all. Supplemental policies may differ from employer to employer but the basic coverage is always in place and changing/losing your job doesn't change that.

4. Doctors can't extra bill, and turn away patients who can't afford them.

So you have better, cheaper health care - for everyone.

And you didn't list a single one of those reasons.

Lol
You have no understanding of America do you? There is no legitimacy to socialized medicine/healthcare In this country.
Paying into a pool invites corruption plain and simple… That is why Social Security and Medicare are fucked up from the get go.

 

[Rustic]

Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

You left off of the real reasons why the left favours single payers healthcare:

1. A 25% reduction in administration costs. All first world nations with single payer healthcare pay administration costs of less than 10% of their total costs. In the USA, administration costs eat up nearly 35% of every health care dollar.

2. Currently 35,000 Americans die every year because of the lack of access to quality health care. Those who rely on emergency care when they get sick, are not getting preventative care, and wait until they are far more seriously ill before seeking care, making treatment and care far more expensive if they had sought care before the illness had advanced to this point. Universal health care means everyone has equal access to basic coverage.

3. Tying health insurance to your employer makes it difficult and risky to change jobs. With universal health care, changing jobs has no impact on your health care at all. Supplemental policies may differ from employer to employer but the basic coverage is always in place and changing/losing your job doesn't change that.

4. Doctors can't extra bill, and turn away patients who can't afford them.

So you have better, cheaper health care - for everyone.

And you didn't list a single one of those reasons.

The reason he didn't list those is because he has an agenda and he doesn't mind lying.

He WANTS TO demonize liberals and progressives, by ANY ANY MEANS NECESSARY, including lying about what they say or do.

He wants to demonize and vilify them because, ultimately, he wants millions of conservatives to rise up in righteous wrath and kill lots of liberals and democrats.

like...me and you......

basically he is a lying murderer.

as most of the cons on this board turn out to be.

 

[Rustic]

Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

could you list 3 reasons why you ALWAYS misrepresent the liberal point?


I think CHEAP and AFFORDABLE health care is a good idea!

That way EVERYONE could have access to health care.



golly....I truly am evil!

Health Insurance is not a right. Throw about 20 Million Illegals out of this country; ask Pelosi to allow us to buy it across state lines, and the cost of health insurance will drop.

No one is ever denied legitimate health care.

Show me Trump's replacement for Obamacare.


Oh, that's right. He doesn't have one.

No wonder all you can do is piss on everyone else's ideas. Any jackass can do THAT!

It takes a real man to put a better solution on the table.

I already have it. It's called a health insurance benefit I earn through the company I work for.

So your plan is exactly as I said. Do nothing and continue to let health care costs skyrocket forever.


Health Insurance Costs Surpass $20,000 Per Year, Hitting a Record

Lol
Want to make anything unsustainable and Absolutely cost prohibitive… Involve the federal government. Fact

 

[Rustic]

Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

could you list 3 reasons why you ALWAYS misrepresent the liberal point?


I think CHEAP and AFFORDABLE health care is a good idea!

That way EVERYONE could have access to health care.



golly....I truly am evil!

Health Insurance is not a right. Throw about 20 Million Illegals out of this country; ask Pelosi to allow us to buy it across state lines, and the cost of health insurance will drop.

No one is ever denied legitimate health care.

Apparently you don't realise immigrants pay taxes and subsidise your SS
Like Germans, Asians, euros first generation may cost.
But since they represent people with far more balls than you every subsequent generation pays for your benefits.
Would you walk 2000 miles and leave everything in your confederate America behind??
I doubt it, rather blather on from your doublwide?
And you do know how stupid it is to throw 20mm out?
Next time you have a $20mm hospital bill don't come crawling to me

Lol
Na, not really
You should really mind your own business and stop forcing your fucked up ideas on other people. You silly little fucker

 

[Rustic]

Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

could you list 3 reasons why you ALWAYS misrepresent the liberal point?


I think CHEAP and AFFORDABLE health care is a good idea!

That way EVERYONE could have access to health care.



golly....I truly am evil!

Health Insurance is not a right. Throw about 20 Million Illegals out of this country; ask Pelosi to allow us to buy it across state lines, and the cost of health insurance will drop.

No one is ever denied legitimate health care.

Show me Trump's replacement for Obamacare.


Oh, that's right. He doesn't have one.

No wonder all you can do is piss on everyone else's ideas. Any jackass can do THAT!

It takes a real man to put a better solution on the table.

I already have it. It's called a health insurance benefit I earn through the company I work for.

If you are fired or quit, you lose your health insurance. So you are a hostage to your employer.

Good plan! For submissive people.

Lol
Entitlement rules your life doesn’t it… How does it feel to be a coward?