Reasons I like Ted Cruz for POTUS

[Kathy58]

The voice of a far rightwing reactionary TeaP: "You believe what you want; I don't really give a f**k. I'm here to voice my opinion, not seek your approval."

The italicized above is the voice of a far right wing weirdo, not an independent.

Lol, yeah whatever you say

 

[birddog]

The voice of a far rightwing reactionary TeaP: "You believe what you want; I don't really give a f**k. I'm here to voice my opinion, not seek your approval."

The italicized above is the voice of a far right wing weirdo, not an independent.

Lol, yeah whatever you say

Whenever I decide to issue my third Dumbass Award, Jake, our resident RINO liberal, will likely be a leading candidate!

 

[Mojo2]

Mojo2 and his folks need to get on the Christie train or be left at the station and prevented from helping to govern America.

Until Ted is legally or statistically eliminated from contention I am riding the Cruz train.

Ted will be a President for ALL the people, including Christie's voters.

In the unfortunate event that Cruz is appointed he will be doing it only for himself and no one else!

In the United States our Presidents are elected. You can take your Commie, or 3rd World ideas back where you came from.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

De, I can see some advantages to "single pay," but I don't like pure socialism. You don't have to have "single pay" to keep costs down and expand care. When Obamacare was passed there were valid R bills that would have cut costs with tort reform, allowed state-to-state purchases, and would have relieved the pre-existing condition problem. Instead Obama had to do the ACA which is far more expansive than anything else, and is now a disaster!

Single payer isn’t ‘socialism,’ ‘pure’ or otherwise; Medicare clearly isn’t ‘socialism,’ and that’s all single payer would be: expanded Medicare.

It’s telling how most on the right hate the ACA, a republican plan, but don’t hate it enough to replace it with single payer – something a majority of Americans support, would realize the goal of insuring all Americans, and bring down costs as Americans would be afforded routine health maintenance.

And those not comfortable with single payer could purchase private insurance policies as a supplement.

Pity.

 

[Mojo2]

Kathy, wanting a limited government, fiscal responsibility, strong national defense...etc... is "extreme" to the idiot liberals.

Cruz is doing exactly what we elected him to do, a concept the Democrats can't understand.

Limited government that restricts abortion while allowing the mentally deranged to purchase guns without any background checks? Fiscal responsibility that pours $24 billion taxpayer dollars down the drain when the extreme right minority threw a hissyfit because they don't want to do the job they were elected and swore an oath to do?

The next time I issue another "Dumbass Award," you will be a contender.

Maybe the most typical of what he/she is (We don't know which, do we? I'm still too new here to know these things unless I 'aks'.) is on display with his choice to use a name which INVITES our disdain.

And I've refrained from going there until now, but wtf is with his calling himself an idiot?

Derideo_Te

Der ideote

The Idiot?

Of course its true, but he is too self aware for the choice to be ironic. Like a sophomoric attempt at pretending to be intellectually deep.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Mojo2 and his folks need to get on the Christie train or be left at the station and prevented from helping to govern America.

Until Ted is legally or statistically eliminated from contention I am riding the Cruz train.

Ted will be a President for ALL the people, including Christie's voters.

Nonsense.

Cruz is an extremist rightwing reactionary who holds responsible governance in contempt. He’s fearful of diversity, dissent, and individual liberty, hostile to privacy rights, equal protection rights, and due process rights – he represents everything that’s wrong with the GOP/TPM.

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

Ted Cruz/Chris Christie would blow away any of the Rats! we just have to get these two to get along! just like with Kennedy/Johnson.

 

[Kathy58]

Mojo2 and his folks need to get on the Christie train or be left at the station and prevented from helping to govern America.

Until Ted is legally or statistically eliminated from contention I am riding the Cruz train.

Ted will be a President for ALL the people, including Christie's voters.

Nonsense.

Cruz is an extremist rightwing reactionary who holds responsible governance in contempt. He’s fearful of diversity, dissent, and individual liberty, hostile to privacy rights, equal protection rights, and due process rights – he represents everything that’s wrong with the GOP/TPM.

Source?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Until Ted is legally or statistically eliminated from contention I am riding the Cruz train.

Ted will be a President for ALL the people, including Christie's voters.

Nonsense.

Cruz is an extremist rightwing reactionary who holds responsible governance in contempt. He’s fearful of diversity, dissent, and individual liberty, hostile to privacy rights, equal protection rights, and due process rights – he represents everything that’s wrong with the GOP/TPM.

Source?

Source:

WASHINGTON — Republicans began a new week pointing fingers at each other Sunday following a 16-day government shutdown and near-default that left the nation worse off and the GOP taking most of the blame.

That left Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who instigated the government crisis by demanding an end to Obamacare and getting the Tea Party faction among House Republicans to go along, in a somewhat lonely position — at least in the nation's capital.

Republicans blame each other after shutdown fiasco

The government shutdown and Cruz’s attempt to destroy the Nation’s economy alone disqualifies him from being president.

 

[Mojo2]

De, I can see some advantages to "single pay," but I don't like pure socialism. You don't have to have "single pay" to keep costs down and expand care. When Obamacare was passed there were valid R bills that would have cut costs with tort reform, allowed state-to-state purchases, and would have relieved the pre-existing condition problem. Instead Obama had to do the ACA which is far more expansive than anything else, and is now a disaster!

Single payer isn’t ‘socialism,’ ‘pure’ or otherwise; Medicare clearly isn’t ‘socialism,’ and that’s all single payer would be: expanded Medicare.

It’s telling how most on the right hate the ACA, a republican plan, but don’t hate it enough to replace it with single payer – something a majority of Americans support, would realize the goal of insuring all Americans, and bring down costs as Americans would be afforded routine health maintenance.

And those not comfortable with single payer could purchase private insurance policies as a supplement.

Pity.

In my book the reason to oppose Obamacare is because it will lead to our LOSS OF FREEDOM.

The Government would be able to make us do as it wished.

 

[Kathy58]

Nonsense.

Cruz is an extremist rightwing reactionary who holds responsible governance in contempt. He’s fearful of diversity, dissent, and individual liberty, hostile to privacy rights, equal protection rights, and due process rights – he represents everything that’s wrong with the GOP/TPM.

Source?

Source:

WASHINGTON — Republicans began a new week pointing fingers at each other Sunday following a 16-day government shutdown and near-default that left the nation worse off and the GOP taking most of the blame.

That left Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who instigated the government crisis by demanding an end to Obamacare and getting the Tea Party faction among House Republicans to go along, in a somewhat lonely position — at least in the nation's capital.

Republicans blame each other after shutdown fiasco

The government shutdown and Cruz’s attempt to destroy the Nation’s economy alone disqualifies him from being president.

Hmmm, that article was written during the democratically caused shutdown but things have changed very quickly. Turns out, Cruz was right andthe entrenched politicos were wrong. Now, both RINO's & DINO's are scrambling to save their butts.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The voice of a far rightwing reactionary TeaP: "You believe what you want; I don't really give a f**k. I'm here to voice my opinion, not seek your approval."

The italicized above is the voice of a far right wing weirdo, not an independent.

Lol, yeah whatever you say

Whenever I decide to issue my third Dumbass Award, Jake, our resident RINO liberal, will likely be a leading candidate!

You already awarded it to yourself.

Birddog, you are not a mainstream American or Republican.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The voice of a far rightwing reactionary TeaP: "You believe what you want; I don't really give a f**k. I'm here to voice my opinion, not seek your approval."

The italicized above is the voice of a far right wing weirdo, not an independent.

Lol, yeah whatever you say

You do not demonstrate any critical thinking skills whatsoever, the mark of a reactionary weirdo of the far right.

 

[Derideo_Te]

De, I can see some advantages to "single pay," but I don't like pure socialism. You don't have to have "single pay" to keep costs down and expand care. When Obamacare was passed there were valid R bills that would have cut costs with tort reform, allowed state-to-state purchases, and would have relieved the pre-existing condition problem. Instead Obama had to do the ACA which is far more expansive than anything else, and is now a disaster!

For starters the closest you will come to "pure socialism" in this nation is corporate welfare. Secondly from a fiscal conservative point of view single-payer is the hands down most cost effective solution. Why should taxpayers have to pay the overhead of corporate profits on subsidies to those who cannot afford healthcare?

The overhead of "tort reform" is a red herring. It is such a tiny fraction of the overhead as to be not worth the effort. The big savings come from eliminating the massive HMO overheads that do absolutely nothing as far as reducing costs are concerned and actually are a major factor in the rising price of healthcare. The pre-existing condition issue was resolved by the ACA and so was the issue of state-to-state purchases.

The ACA is expensive because it is the HF/GOP corporate profit based alternative to single-payer. If you wanted a cheaper solution you should have supported single-payer. Lastly there is no "disaster". All major systems have teething problems. Medicare Part D was still denying seniors medications after it went into effect. That was a potentially life threatening "disaster". The ACA hasn't even gone into effect yet so you are just making yourself look silly marching up and down with your "end of the world is coming" sign.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Kathy, wanting a limited government, fiscal responsibility, strong national defense...etc... is "extreme" to the idiot liberals.

Cruz is doing exactly what we elected him to do, a concept the Democrats can't understand.

Limited government that restricts abortion while allowing the mentally deranged to purchase guns without any background checks? Fiscal responsibility that pours $24 billion taxpayer dollars down the drain when the extreme right minority threw a hissyfit because they don't want to do the job they were elected and swore an oath to do?

The next time I issue another "Dumbass Award," you will be a contender.

I accept the "Extreme Right Dumbass Award" as evidence that I am a sane moderate Independent.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Cruz is not "extreme" in my opinion. And it's telling that liberals want Christie as a candidate for president; liberals see Christie as a "moderate" which in their view, means he'll push their agenda instead of conservative goals. Cruz is doing what he said he would do, unlike many other politicians.

If Cruz is not extreme in your opinion then you are a fellow extremist. On any checklist of conservative positions Christie is a conservative. What differentiates him from extremists like you and Cruz is that he is a pragmatic conservative who understands that you have to work with people to achieve goals through a process of compromise. Only extremists demand that their agenda become law irrespective of the wishes of the other 75% of the nation.

Extremists ideologues do more harm than good. They create divisions and cause strife and conflict. They are opposed to how this nation was founded to operate on a system of checks and balances. Extremists demand that only their way is correct and screw everyone else. The American people will only tolerate the puerile antics of the extremists up to a point.

You are accurately describing Obama, right? Actually, a majority of Americans do not support Obamacare but it was shoved down our throats anyway.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/sep/26/newt-gingrich
/obamacare-has-never-been-favored-majority-american/

Remember, the democrats were confident once Americans were enrolled in Obamacare, they would like it;
After Years Of Political Talk, The Obamacare Fight Gets Real : NPR

And again, if Obamacare is so great, why are we still forced to pay 75% of Congress' health premiums instead of them paying for their own? Americans that make $174,000/ yr. don't get subsidies!

As a TP member, I fully support following the Constitution and demand that the gov't operate the way it was designed to; checks and balances that don't allow one branch of the gov't to accrue excessive power. Currently, Obama is dictating what is law and what isn't, refusing to let Congress do it's job. I blame most members of Congress for allowing him to do that as well.
Your definition of extremist fits Obama far more than Cruz.

So you were lying when you claimed to be an Independent? Your distorted extreme right opinion of what Obama is doing is meaningless. He is not "dictating" anything. Your paranoid delusions are not reality. The biggest threat to this nation comes from the Tea Party itself. That is established and indisputable fact since it was the TPer's who were 100% responsible for shutting down the government and trying to destroy the credit rating of America. As the de facto leader of that attempt to harm America Cruz is the extremist and another indisputable fact is that his own party ostracized him and repudiated what he was attempting to do.

 

[Derideo_Te]

The voice of a far rightwing reactionary TeaP: "You believe what you want; I don't really give a f**k. I'm here to voice my opinion, not seek your approval."

The italicized above is the voice of a far right wing weirdo, not an independent.

Lol, yeah whatever you say

Whenever I decide to issue my third Dumbass Award, Jake, our resident RINO liberal, will likely be a leading candidate!

Nope, I have already accepted the 3rd "Extreme Right Dumbass Award" so you can't give it to Jake.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Limited government that restricts abortion while allowing the mentally deranged to purchase guns without any background checks? Fiscal responsibility that pours $24 billion taxpayer dollars down the drain when the extreme right minority threw a hissyfit because they don't want to do the job they were elected and swore an oath to do?

The next time I issue another "Dumbass Award," you will be a contender.

Maybe the most typical of what he/she is (We don't know which, do we? I'm still too new here to know these things unless I 'aks'.) is on display with his choice to use a name which INVITES our disdain.

And I've refrained from going there until now, but wtf is with his calling himself an idiot?

Derideo_Te

Der ideote

The Idiot?

Of course its true, but he is too self aware for the choice to be ironic. Like a sophomoric attempt at pretending to be intellectually deep.

A simple Google would have told you what it means but since you didn't it makes you a strong contender for Birddog's next award.

 

[Derideo_Te]

De, I can see some advantages to "single pay," but I don't like pure socialism. You don't have to have "single pay" to keep costs down and expand care. When Obamacare was passed there were valid R bills that would have cut costs with tort reform, allowed state-to-state purchases, and would have relieved the pre-existing condition problem. Instead Obama had to do the ACA which is far more expansive than anything else, and is now a disaster!

Single payer isn’t ‘socialism,’ ‘pure’ or otherwise; Medicare clearly isn’t ‘socialism,’ and that’s all single payer would be: expanded Medicare.

It’s telling how most on the right hate the ACA, a republican plan, but don’t hate it enough to replace it with single payer – something a majority of Americans support, would realize the goal of insuring all Americans, and bring down costs as Americans would be afforded routine health maintenance.

And those not comfortable with single payer could purchase private insurance policies as a supplement.

Pity.

In my book the reason to oppose Obamacare is because it will lead to our LOSS OF FREEDOM.

The Government would be able to make us do as it wished.

Of course it is a complete waste of time expecting Mojo to provide a credible explanation as to how any "freedom" is actually "lost" to the government OF the people and FOR the people..

 

[jon_berzerk]

Single payer isn’t ‘socialism,’ ‘pure’ or otherwise; Medicare clearly isn’t ‘socialism,’ and that’s all single payer would be: expanded Medicare.

It’s telling how most on the right hate the ACA, a republican plan, but don’t hate it enough to replace it with single payer – something a majority of Americans support, would realize the goal of insuring all Americans, and bring down costs as Americans would be afforded routine health maintenance.

And those not comfortable with single payer could purchase private insurance policies as a supplement.

Pity.

In my book the reason to oppose Obamacare is because it will lead to our LOSS OF FREEDOM.

The Government would be able to make us do as it wished.

Of course it is a complete waste of time expecting Mojo to provide a credible explanation as to how any "freedom" is actually "lost" to the government OF the people and FOR the people..

thats right cause everyone knows

forcing people to buy a product or face penalties

is more freedom not less