Reason #2 " two state solution" is doa !

[montelatici]

Well, these answers demonstrate that American supporters of Israel have become the current day ethnic cleansers wanting the elimination of the Muslims and Christians of Palestine.

A great number of Americans supported white ruled South Africa and Rhodesia, for a time. But, things change.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The original "cleansers" were the Arabs who got it kicked up their collective ass.

Tough.

You can accept what is and that it will not change, or keep suffering.

We can and will do this for a 100 years without blinking and without any sweat.

 

[montelatici]

i The original "cleansers" were the Arabs who got it kicked up their collective ass

Does that pass the reasonableness test? How many Arabians from Arabia could have possibly settled in Palestine? Arabia is a desert, there were very few people there. The people in Palestine today, except the European Jews, are the same people that were always there, whatever religion they adopted.

Try to study a little before you post bullshit.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The posted bullshit is yours. The Arabs tried to cleanse the Jews and got their asses kicked.

The Arabs have shown they can't share the sand box, so they will have to go elsewhere: maybe Madagascar.

And make no mistake, if the Arabs are overrunning Israel in war, Israel and the US will turn the ME into a molten glass sand parking lot. Of course will not be able to live on it for four generations.

Israel to the Jordan forever. No other solution will ever happen.

 

[Beelzebub]

There is no legitimacy for Israel's expansion to be found at the UN. Else you'd be able to link to it.

I gave your the details of why the settlements are legal, up to you to find details that dispute INTERNATIONAL LAW of right of return

Israel, as a sovereign state can set its citizenship rules as it wishes. It may be unjust, racist, undemocratic, but it may still do that.

What it cannot do legally is to annex someone else's territory and resources to provide a place for its citizens, however defined, to live.

Though totalitarian states do this, routinely.

 

[Beelzebub]

The posted bullshit is yours. The Arabs tried to cleanse the Jews and got their asses kicked.

The Arabs have shown they can't share the sand box, so they will have to go elsewhere: maybe Madagascar.

And make no mistake, if the Arabs are overrunning Israel in war, Israel and the US will turn the ME into a molten glass sand parking lot. Of course will not be able to live on it for four generations.

Israel to the Jordan forever. No other solution will ever happen.

You are by that advocating genocide.
What does "Never Again" mean to you?

 

[jillian]

There is no legitimacy for Israel's expansion to be found at the UN. Else you'd be able to link to it.

I gave your the details of why the settlements are legal, up to you to find details that dispute INTERNATIONAL LAW of right of return

Israel, as a sovereign state can set its citizenship rules as it wishes. It may be unjust, racist, undemocratic, but it may still do that.

What it cannot do legally is to annex someone else's territory and resources to provide a place for its citizens, however defined, to live.

Though totalitarian states do this, routinely.

how is it racist, undemocratic or unjust not to give people the right to live in your country whose only goal is to destroy your country.

and why aren't the same objections raised in regard to the myriad of muslim countries that have tossed their jews?

funny how the pro-terrorist faction never discusses that.

 

[thanatos144]

The main reason the rwo state solution wont work....There is no Palestine and never was!

 

[Beelzebub]

See, this is an excellent example.

Wishful thinking being presented as 'fact'.
I always like to see this from Zionists and to be fair, the likes of Thanatos who really undermines Zionism, by being so thick.

Misunderstanding how things are leads to mistakes. Mistakes lead to failure.
Keep it up Thanatos. You are doing a great job.

 

[thanatos144]

See, this is an excellent example.

Wishful thinking being presented as 'fact'.
I always like to see this from Zionists and to be fair, the likes of Thanatos who really undermines Zionism, by being so thick.

Misunderstanding how things are leads to mistakes. Mistakes lead to failure.
Keep it up Thanatos. You are doing a great job.

There was no Palestine you fucking dummy. If you're going to use a people to excuse your hate for Jews at least know where they fucking came from.

 

[Beelzebub]

Jews came from Egypt.

Modern Jews came very much from tribes which converted to Judaism, so have nothing to do with Egypt or Israel, if you go by blood lines.

Israel and Judea were territories formed from land taken by force from various tribes, including the Philistines. After the Jewish uprising ending about 70AD the Romans killed off remaining resistance, then banned Jews from the area, so those who stayed / survived converted.

Rome also banished the Jewish names for the territory and called it Palestine, a name derived from its pre-Abraham / Joshua invasion.

The converted Jews joined with the rest of the populace, as Palestinians.
More recently the Ottoman Empire had control of the place called Palestine. Then the British had it.

I hope that helps you Thanatos.

 

[thanatos144]

Jews came from Egypt.

Modern Jews came very much from tribes which converted to Judaism, so have nothing to do with Egypt or Israel, if you go by blood lines.

Israel and Judea were territories formed from land taken by force from various tribes, including the Philistines. After the Jewish uprising ending about 70AD the Romans killed off remaining resistance, then banned Jews from the area, so those who stayed / survived converted.

Rome also banished the Jewish names for the territory and called it Palestine, a name derived from its pre-Abraham / Joshua invasion.

The converted Jews joined with the rest of the populace, as Palestinians.
More recently the Ottoman Empire had control of the place called Palestine. Then the British had it.

I hope that helps you Thanatos.

No they didnt.

 

[Beelzebub]

Do you mean that before Egypt, they came from elsewhere, or do you mean they were not in Egypt ever Thanatos?

 

[thanatos144]

Do you mean that before Egypt, they came from elsewhere, or do you mean they were not in Egypt ever Thanatos?

Being a slave somewhere doesnt mean they are from there

 

[Beelzebub]

Well, its always possible to go back another step. Though each time, the provenance is of lesser quality.

How far back are you inclined to go?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The posted bullshit is yours. The Arabs tried to cleanse the Jews and got their asses kicked.

The Arabs have shown they can't share the sand box, so they will have to go elsewhere: maybe Madagascar.

And make no mistake, if the Arabs are overrunning Israel in war, Israel and the US will turn the ME into a molten glass sand parking lot. Of course will not be able to live on it for four generations.

Israel to the Jordan forever. No other solution will ever happen.

You are by that advocating genocide.
What does "Never Again" mean to you?

I am advocating such you are unable to act in civilized manner that you be moved.

 

[JakeStarkey]

History provenances the Jews in the land.

The right of war, started by the Arabs, completes the provenance.

You will like Madascar.

 

[jillian]

The main reason the rwo state solution wont work....There is no Palestine and never was!

the main reason is that the pals still want the destruction of Israel. other than that, they could easily chart their own destiny.

 

[Beelzebub]

The posted bullshit is yours. The Arabs tried to cleanse the Jews and got their asses kicked.

The Arabs have shown they can't share the sand box, so they will have to go elsewhere: maybe Madagascar.

And make no mistake, if the Arabs are overrunning Israel in war, Israel and the US will turn the ME into a molten glass sand parking lot. Of course will not be able to live on it for four generations.

Israel to the Jordan forever. No other solution will ever happen.

You are by that advocating genocide.
What does "Never Again" mean to you?

I am advocating such you are unable to act in civilized manner that you be moved.

I would agree, to an extent.
So, where should all the Settlers move to?
California or just back to Israel?

 

[jillian]

Jews came from Egypt.

Modern Jews came very much from tribes which converted to Judaism, so have nothing to do with Egypt or Israel, if you go by blood lines.

Israel and Judea were territories formed from land taken by force from various tribes, including the Philistines. After the Jewish uprising ending about 70AD the Romans killed off remaining resistance, then banned Jews from the area, so those who stayed / survived converted.

Rome also banished the Jewish names for the territory and called it Palestine, a name derived from its pre-Abraham / Joshua invasion.

The converted Jews joined with the rest of the populace, as Palestinians.
More recently the Ottoman Empire had control of the place called Palestine. Then the British had it.

I hope that helps you Thanatos.

jews came from Judea and samaria.

rome never banished jews. they defeated and occupied them, destroying the temple.

they called it Palestine for philistines. but there has never been a "Palestinian people".

your knowledge of history is flawed. you might want to get that history from reliable sources instead of pro Palestinian nonsense that would have you saying jews aren't rooted in the land (when Jerusalem is mentioned how many times in the bible??) but the beouin interlopers who LOST their war of aggression are.

butt backwards