Zone1 Reality Check on Easter

[SweetSue92]

Reality Check:
1)Easter is about the Ishtar mythology where Fishman god Dagon's son Baal's son is a fishman birthed out of a giant egg-(sounds like a UFO description)
Today you still see remnants of this Dagon-Baal-morning star worship through Baal (sun )Crosses, Baal's Dec 25th birthday borrowed, Fishead hat mitre, fish scale robes, and popes fishman god ring.
2)In Canaanite Dying god Mythology of Athtar the Fierce, this son of Baal called the Morning Star
(Rev 22:16)needs to die to surpass (be the new mask of) his father on the throne.
& Resurrection from the dead stories are borrowed to give power to the legend & compete and convert other cultures who had same predated death scenes.
Found was a 700bc stone tablet on Bel called the Marduck tablets(seen below) with the exact same death scene accts and it sits in the British museum.
3) There are still Christian Hospitals, funeral homes grave- buriel sites, and Christians still buy life insurance because nobody is resurrected by this giant fishman.
4)eventually children stop believing in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, but some adults seem to still need this crutch.
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Knew all of this. Changes nothing. In former times God prepared this is how everything was introduced.

It reinforces, rather than debunks, the Truth.

As we say in Church--it's Friday, but Sunday's coming.

 

[SweetSue92]

This goes to show you the contempt Jews have towards Christians. Even though Muslims would murder every single one of them, from the river to the sea, they still hate Christians more.

”If all the world hates you, remember it hated me first.” John 15:18

Jews hate Jesus first and foremost, which is why they will excuse murderous Muslims and blame Christians for their woes.

The Jews chose Barabbas over Jesus, and still do to this day. HaShev just proved that.

Yes but I don't single Jews out particularly for this tbh. The time is coming--maybe quickly--when they will all turn on us.

For me, to live is Christ

And to die is gain

May it be ever so God!

 

[HaShev]

LOL wow Jews really hate Jesus.

Or some of us are sticklers for historical honesty and hate
"fake good news".
Hate is combining 3 figures(trinity) and giving the compiled story figure a new name, that in a way is hate towards the historical christ figures making up his image.
Hate for Yeshu, Yehuda, and Theudas.

 

[HaShev]

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~S~

You do realize the Palestinian hate propaganda that keeps them in this Wyle E. Coyote cycle was learned from Berlin (Nazis) and they merely emulated the Church Synods. And you do realize Palestinians have been complaining that Hamas has been killing them targeting kids as threats to families fleeing but also for propaganda. But hey if you believe Palestinians bleed Pink and are made of plastic (they got caught with wraped dolls) .
Are there casualties? Of course, but don't be so gullible McFly and don't deflect blame, at any time they could give up the kidnapped and surrender. And at anytime you can choose not to support the problem that repeats over and over because the unpopular act of seeing through the removal of the cancer is always frowned upon by those arm chair generals. They can't stomach what it takes to stop this cycle once and for all. All the failed policies and acts protestors want to repeat, that's Insane.

 

[HaShev]

Happy Easter!

 

[Libby von H]

Don't open yourself up for the many answers to that question.

That still does not have anything to do with or justify borrowing of mythologies to deceive (as Cardinal Newman and others admitted)
It would be like saying "what about Hamas Charities", there's more harm done than the facade of good deeds.
The Death cult- underworld teachings used to get dupes to fight wars for the kings with promises of rewards in the afterlife killed more people than they saved on the abortion issue. And they were given the ultimate wise resolution to the abortion debate but placed themselves before that solution, thus rejecting all those babies they could save with that solution to the debate that would end the debate once and for all.

I am as close as a layperson gets to a Newman scholar...and he utterly rejected what you say.
In fact he explicitly repudiates your whole line of thought

There is an immeasurable distance, he says, “between feeling right and doing right,” and perhaps the easiest way for the deceitfulness of our hearts to get the better of us is when we convince ourselves that we are sorry for our sin without making any concrete change in our conduct (vol. I, no. 13)
And Newman CONVERTED on that basis,and not to what he knew to be a 'mythology meant to deceive'
You know nothing about Newman,will gladly debate you any time.
Say when

As one description of him goes (that completely rejects your view)

"Newman was one of the most famous converts to the Catholic Church, and demonstrated the conviction that truth is a value. He declared it to be a fundamental value by his spiritual and moral choices. This eminent theologian loved truth above all else, and made history in the Church as a lover of truth."

 

[luiza]

As we say in Church--it's Friday, but Sunday's coming.

And there we have it .

An empty promise for the future and zero apology for an appalling present .

Those Cult Christians sure know how to spin out the dream of a happy ending .

 

[SweetSue92]

And there we have it .

An empty promise for the future and zero apology for an appalling present .

Those Cult Christians sure know how to spin out the dream of a happy ending .

Plot Twist: Sunday is coming in the holiday weekend. The Sunday already came. As Jesus said: it is finished.

As for you raging about how bad things suck, yeah. Believe it, God knows. You're raging against the only one who can fix it for you. Your choice, of course.

 

[Votto]

This goes to show you the contempt Jews have towards Christians. Even though Muslims would murder every single one of them, from the river to the sea, they still hate Christians more.

”If all the world hates you, remember it hated me first.” John 15:18

Jews hate Jesus first and foremost, which is why they will excuse murderous Muslims and blame Christians for their woes.

The Jews chose Barabbas over Jesus, and still do to this day. HaShev just proved that.

I disagree with simply singling out Jews. This is the human condition. In fact, secular Leftists are hunting down today both practicing Jew and Christian alike as are Fundamentalist Muslims. They hate us because our focus is the Bible/Torah.

The problem with Jews like HaShave is he has no idea who his friends are and who his enemies are. He really thinks that Arafat is a better man than the Pope and that Jesus is the cause of the ills of the West. Meanwhile, secular Leftist schools like Harvard, who despise Christianity, allow students to sing "Gas the Jews" with impunity as they hide Jewish students in the attic for their safety.

He is truly clueless.

 

[HaShev]

I am as close as a layperson gets to a Newman scholar...and he utterly rejected what you say.
In fact he explicitly repudiates your whole line of thought

There is an immeasurable distance, he says, “between feeling right and doing right,” and perhaps the easiest way for the deceitfulness of our hearts to get the better of us is when we convince ourselves that we are sorry for our sin without making any concrete change in our conduct (vol. I, no. 13)
And Newman CONVERTED on that basis,and not to what he knew to be a 'mythology meant to deceive'
You know nothing about Newman,will gladly debate you any time.
Say when

As one description of him goes (that completely rejects your view)

"Newman was one of the most famous converts to the Catholic Church, and demonstrated the conviction that truth is a value. He declared it to be a fundamental value by his spiritual and moral choices. This eminent theologian loved truth above all else, and made history in the Church as a lover of truth."

Throughout the RCC they mention these mysteries they borrowed from Babylon.
Church elect have admited they borrowed from them as you know.
The Development of the Christian Religion Cardinal Newman p.359
John Apochryphon admits they
borrowed much from Zoroaster.

Source:Cardinal Newman admits in his book that; the "temples, incense, oil lamps, votive offerings, holy water, holidays, and seasons of devotion, processions, blessings of the fields, sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure (of priests, monks and nuns), images, and statues... are all of pagan origin." The Development of the Christian Religion Cardinal Newman p.359

Source:The 5 Glorious Mysteries
all Found on "predated" tablets on Babylonian mythologies existing in Asyria where the tablets were found. These tablets can be examined at the British Museum and they sent me photos of the tablet to prove they existed, I showed them on this thread.

 

[Votto]

Throughout the RCC they mention these mysteries they borrowed from Babylon.
Church elect have admited they borrowed from them as you know.
The Development of the Christian Religion Cardinal Newman p.359
John Apochryphon admits they
borrowed much from Zoroaster.

Source:Cardinal Newman admits in his book that; the "temples, incense, oil lamps, votive offerings, holy water, holidays, and seasons of devotion, processions, blessings of the fields, sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure (of priests, monks and nuns), images, and statues... are all of pagan origin." The Development of the Christian Religion Cardinal Newman p.359

Source:The 5 Glorious Mysteries
all Found on "predated" tablets on Babylonian mythologies existing in Asyria where the tablets were found. These tablets can be examined at the British Museum and they sent me photos of the tablet to prove they existed, I showed them on this thread.

The Catholic church once hunted down Jews. You would interpret this as a sign that Christianity is evil. However, this was a time before people had books and could even read. The people relied on the Catholic church to tell them right from wrong as they had no Bible,, which is why Martin Luther broke from the church due to their apostasy because he could read and had a Bible. No one can read the teachings of Jesus and then decide we should persecute Jews.

The Guttenberg Press and increased reading helped the masses read about God for themselves, which was the beginning of the end for the Catholic church and the Pope who essentially acted like the political emperor of Europe than a religious body. Christ warned that his kingdom was not of this world, but the Catholic church did not get the memo as they have their own Sovreign nation at the Vatican with high walls around it. In fact, the Pope today is more focused on being woke than presenting the gospel. Again, they still play politics.

Similarly, the Sanhedrin back in the days of Jesus was more interested in persecuting Jesus to help appease the Roman authority to back off than they were the things of God.

You see, the politics of man is poison.

 

[HaShev]

I disagree with simply singling out Jews. This is the human condition. In fact, secular Leftists are hunting down today both practicing Jew and Christian alike as are Fundamentalist Muslims. They hate us because our focus is the Bible/Torah.

The problem with Jews like HaShave is he has no idea who his friends are and who his enemies are. He really thinks that Arafat is a better man than the Pope and that Jesus is the cause of the ills of the West. Meanwhile, secular Leftist schools like Harvard, who despise Christianity, allow students to sing "Gas the Jews" with impunity as they hide Jewish students in the attic for their safety.

He is truly clueless.

You are delusional, I was the one who exposed Arafat's funneling of Palestinian aid and his affair with his male aids, it's why they turned on him in the end, he was stealing their money and using his power position to take advantage of young men intimidated into submission to his perverse whims.
The Pope no matter how popular, was no saint, he was looking out for the Church interest without thinking about future consequences, remember he's not a prophet, he can't see the future to know his act would trigger what it did in cause and affect and ripple affects.

 

[HaShev]

The Catholic church once hunted down Jews. You would interpret this as a sign that Christianity is evil. However, this was a time before people had books and could even read. The people relied on the Catholic church to tell them right from wrong as they had no Bible,, which is why Martin Luther broke from the church due to their apostasy because he could read and had a Bible. No one can read the teachings of Jesus and then decide we should persecute Jews.

The Guttenberg Press and increased reading helped the masses read about God for themselves, which was the beginning of the end for the Catholic church and the Pope who essentially acted like the political emperor of Europe than a religious body. Christ warned that his kingdom was not of this world, but the Catholic church did not get the memo as they have their own Sovreign nation at the Vatican with high walls around it. In fact, the Pope today is more focused on being woke than presenting the gospel. Again, they still play politics.

over 50 million murders in thousands of wars and still going, but hey how many is evil to you?
Remember you think 184,000 fetanyl deaths is acceptable as long as the Big guy get's his 10 percent.
You do realize even the Jihaadists hate mongering is a road that leads back to Rome.
the RCC's antisemitic synods and decrees that influenced the Nazis antisemitic rules and acts. And it was where the head Palestinian Mufti (said to be Arafats Uncle
Haj Amin Al-Hussein
i) flead to Berlin to learn said propaganda of hate which influenced the Jihaadist propaganda, mentality of violence and hate=RCC IS EVEN RESPONSIBLE FOR TODAY'S RADICALISM & GLOBAL DECAY.
They are responsible by both inluence and affects of their past actions. Furthermore the world is held back by this imposter temple as it prevents the rightful spiritual platform to have equal rights to outreach humanity with proper reflections and teachings of righteousness.
There ends up no proper judgement, council, mediation, teaching, proper rational influences, problem solving, etc...and thus we live in this bizzarro world of our own design never to know what could and should be because the spiritual authority has made us blind and expecting that this is the way it is and always will be...

 

[HaShev]

The Catholic church once hunted down Jews. You would interpret this as a sign that Christianity is evil. However, this was a time before people had books and could even read. The people relied on the Catholic church to tell them right from wrong as they had no Bible,, which is why Martin Luther broke from the church due to their apostasy because he could read and had a Bible. No one can read the teachings of Jesus and then decide we should persecute Jews.

The Guttenberg Press and increased reading helped the masses read about God for themselves, which was the beginning of the end for the Catholic church and the Pope who essentially acted like the political emperor of Europe than a religious body. Christ warned that his kingdom was not of this world, but the Catholic church did not get the memo as they have their own Sovreign nation at the Vatican with high walls around it. In fact, the Pope today is more focused on being woke than presenting the gospel. Again, they still play politics.

Similarly, the Sanhedrin back in the days of Jesus was more interested in persecuting Jesus to help appease the Roman authority to back off than they were the things of God.

You see, the politics of man is poison.

was too large for the post, these are the synods I talked about, info they don't teach you in Sunday school or when passing around the $ collection plate.
In 1939 the Nazis barred Jews from train dining cars.

The Church's Synod of Elvira (306) forbade Jews and Christians eating together.

The Synod of Clement (535) parallels the law for the Re-establishment of the Professional Civil Service (Nazi Germany -1933) by disallowing Jews from holding public office.

The Third Synod of Orleans (538) inhibited Jews from showing themselves in the streets during passion Week. In 1938 the Nazis past a decree allowing authorities to ban Jews from the streets on certain days such as Nazi
During the Synod of Toledo the Talmud and other books were burned. Similar book burnings were a regular event in Nazi Germany.

The law for the Protection of German Blood and Honor (1935)
parallels the Synod of Elvira (306), which prohibited intermarriage and sexual intercourse between Christians and Jews.

The fourth Lateran Council (1215) mandated the marking of
Jewish clothes with a badge. In 1941 the Nazis forced Jews
to wear a Star of David. So Christendom foreshadowed the
Nazis.

In 1222 the Council of Oxford banned the construction of new
synagogues. In 1938 the Nazis destroyed synagogues in the
entire Third Reich. Again Christendom foreshadowed the Nazis.

In 1279 the Synod of Breslau legislated for compulsory ghettoes.

In 1939 Heydrich also ordered compulsory ghettoes for Jews.

Again Christendom foreshadowed the Nazis.

The Synod of Ofen (1279) forbade Christians from selling or
renting real estate to Jews. In 1939 a Nazi decree mandated
the sale of Jewish real estate. Again Christendom foreshadowed
the Nazis.

The Council of Basel (1434) prevented Jews from obtaining
academic degrees. In 1933 the Nazis passed a law against,
"Overcrowding of German Schools and Universities" with
the same effect. Again Christendom foreshadowed the Nazis.

The Synod of Gerona (1078) forced Jews to make contributions
to the Church equal to that of Christians. The 1940
Sozialausgleichsabgabe enforced a special Jewish income tax
equal to the party contribution levied on Nazis. Again Christendom foreshadowed the Nazis.
"The Nazis 'did not discard the past; they built upon it. They didn't begin a development; they completed it.' This fact makes
ludicrous any unqualified claim that the Nazis were the enemies
of Christendom. In actuality, they were in very large measure the
agents for the 'practical' application of an established social logic."

(Hilberg, R., "The Destruction of the European Jews" Chicago:
Quadrangle, 1961), and (Eckardt, "Elder and Younger Brothers:
The Encounter of Jews and Christians" New York: Schocken
1973, 12-14).

The roots of the antisemitic "established social logic" referred to above lie in the antisemitic potential of the NT. The roots of modern antisemitism lie in the pages of the NT. Without it the Shoah (Holocaust) would never have happened.

A Disturbing Fact:
On April 19 1939 in celebration of Hitler's birthday All Catholic churches in greater Germany hoisted the Swastica in Celebration.

 

[Libby von H]

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I'll probably go to hell for this, but yeah, as long as they don't try to bring their idols into my church.

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Only a supremely trivial person would think that chancing Hell makes you funny

 

[surada]

The Catholic church once hunted down Jews. You would interpret this as a sign that Christianity is evil. However, this was a time before people had books and could even read. The people relied on the Catholic church to tell them right from wrong as they had no Bible,, which is why Martin Luther broke from the church due to their apostasy because he could read and had a Bible. No one can read the teachings of Jesus and then decide we should persecute Jews.

The Guttenberg Press and increased reading helped the masses read about God for themselves, which was the beginning of the end for the Catholic church and the Pope who essentially acted like the political emperor of Europe than a religious body. Christ warned that his kingdom was not of this world, but the Catholic church did not get the memo as they have their own Sovreign nation at the Vatican with high walls around it. In fact, the Pope today is more focused on being woke than presenting the gospel. Again, they still play politics.

Similarly, the Sanhedrin back in the days of Jesus was more interested in persecuting Jesus to help appease the Roman authority to back off than they were the things of God.

You see, the politics of man is poison.

The Romans didn't care about Jesus at all . Neither did Herod Antipas.

 

[Woodznutz]

The reason I bring it up is because it was used in Thomas Paine's Common Sense pamphlet for the US Revolution.

He was an atheist, but he used 1 Samuel 8 as an argument to revolt against the British crown. This is the power of the Torah brought to the rest of the world via Christianity.

Wicked man was never meant to rule over his fellow man.

This is why oppression and persecution arises as it does.

God warned them, but they still would not listen.

In fact, Leftism, which preaches the virtue of man ruling over other man, only wants more of that power and more centralized.

Unfortunately. Leftism is the most successful religion of our era that has infiltrated the church and claimed most secular Jews as well. It is also the cause of the Jewish persecution of Jews in Europe via the Catholic church. Its all about political power.

True. We can draw direct parallels to today's governance.

 

[sparky]

You do realize the Palestinian hate propaganda that keeps them in this Wyle E. Coyote cycle was learned from Berlin (Nazis) and they merely emulated the Church Synods. And you do realize Palestinians have been complaining that Hamas has been killing them targeting kids as threats to families fleeing but also for propaganda. But hey if you believe Palestinians bleed Pink and are made of plastic (they got caught with wraped dolls) .
Are there casualties? Of course, but don't be so gullible McFly and don't deflect blame, at any time they could give up the kidnapped and surrender. And at anytime you can choose not to support the problem that repeats over and over because the unpopular act of seeing through the removal of the cancer is always frowned upon by those arm chair generals. They can't stomach what it takes to stop this cycle once and for all. All the failed policies and acts protestors want to repeat, that's Insane.

What i (eta all non gullibles) realize is histories biggest monsters cloak themselves in the guise of religious righteousness

~S~

 

[theHawk]

Hate is combining 3 figures(trinity) and giving the compiled story figure a new name

Sounds like you hate Israelites then.

 

[theHawk]

I disagree with simply singling out Jews. This is the human condition. In fact, secular Leftists are hunting down today both practicing Jew and Christian alike as are Fundamentalist Muslims. They hate us because our focus is the Bible/Torah.

The problem with Jews like HaShave is he has no idea who his friends are and who his enemies are. He really thinks that Arafat is a better man than the Pope and that Jesus is the cause of the ills of the West. Meanwhile, secular Leftist schools like Harvard, who despise Christianity, allow students to sing "Gas the Jews" with impunity as they hide Jewish students in the attic for their safety.

He is truly clueless.

I didn’t claim it is limited to Jews.