Reagan's reasons for success

[JGalt]

The same reason as Clinton had such economic success---pure coincidence of having the job at the right time.

Bill Clinton only achieved some measure of economic success because the GOP took control of the House and Senate. If you look at the data from his presidency, the median family income rose sharply in 1996, when the GOP took control:

Same thing with debt as a percentage of the GDP:

Same with the stock market:

GDP growth compared to other NATO countries:

Economic Record: President Clinton

Congress was in the hands of the Democrats up until 1995. Once the GOP took control and elected Newt Gingrich as the Speaker, Clinton was forced to work with them. And that is what accounts for Clinton's economic growth. I'm surprised that most people don't get that, and they still give that bumbling idiot Clinton all the credit.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

Your ignorance is glaring.

I'm detecting a conspiracy kook.

 

[Auld Phart]

I'm detecting a conspiracy kook.

I'm detecting a conspiracy kook.

Introspection?

 

[rupol2000]

I would not compare them either,one was a fucking warmonger traiter who is burning in hell and should have been hung up by the balls and tortured,while the other is the first non puppet president sense kennedy not part of the corrupt two party system who same as kennedy,cleaned up government corruption,the most anti war president sense carter. Kennedy is far more comparable to being like trump than that asswipe mass murderer is,they are nowhere in the same ballpark.

It looks like you are a left-wing fanatic. So Islamic extremists and communists are allowed bloodshed, and when you kill their people you are bad? Typical left logic (female logic). To save the wolves, you need lambs on the altar.

 

[Dekster]

Bill Clinton only achieved some measure of economic success because the GOP took control of the House and Senate. If you look at the data from his presidency, the median family income rose sharply in 1996, when the GOP took control:

Same thing with debt as a percentage of the GDP:

Same with the stock market:

GDP growth compared to other NATO countries:

Economic Record: President Clinton

Congress was in the hands of the Democrats up until 1995. Once the GOP took control and elected Newt Gingrich as the Speaker, Clinton was forced to work with them. And that is what accounts for Clinton's economic growth. I'm surprised that most people don't get that, and they still give that bumbling idiot Clinton all the credit.

It was a time of global economic expansion driven mainly by technology. Developed countries not particularly affected by anything going on in the US saw similar gains. Like I said, mostly just coincidence. All Clinton and the GOP did was set us up for Too Big To Fail to become reality.

 

[rupol2000]

Kennedy is far more comparable to being like trump

And it is unclear why you mentioned Kennedy here. Kennedy did not leave Vietnam like Trump left Afghanistan. On the contrary, he increased the American presence. He did exactly what Reagan did.

 

[candycorn]

No. Now there is a negative attitude towards America almost everywhere, and the Taliban fucked it in general. America has ceased to be respected, and if there is no new Reagan, the end will come soon

Well whomever has a negative attitude about America can kiss my American ass.

 

[candycorn]

And it is unclear why you mentioned Kennedy here. Kennedy did not leave Vietnam like Trump left Afghanistan. On the contrary, he increased the American presence. He did exactly what Reagan did.

Trump left Afghanistan?

 

[rupol2000]

Trump left Afghanistan?

It was he who signed the surrender. Biden was just doing what was signed by the Trump.

 

[rupol2000]

Well whomever has a negative attitude about America can kiss my American ass.

You have chosen the wrong moment for this proposal. Now it’s better to think about not having to kiss the asses of the Taliban.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

And it is unclear why you mentioned Kennedy here. Kennedy did not leave Vietnam like Trump left Afghanistan. On the contrary, he increased the American presence. He did exactly what Reagan did.

Dude of course he did not,the cia killed him cause he was trying to pull us out of vietnam,everybody knows thst.,thsts no secret anymore. it’s all in documents he was going to have a complete withdrawal by 1965,everybody knows thst,everybody knows thst he never sent in combat troops and only advisors,thst johnson sent in the combat troops and reversed his policys. ,only the braindead are not aware thst was why the cia killed him,thst was johnson that increased the presence of Vietnam thst kennedy inherited from Truman who got us into vietnam

Reagan did not get us out of wars dumbass.the fact cia shill candyass thinks so proves that.

Cia shill candyass hates kennedy AND trump and loves Reagan,all the proof in the world right there kennedy and trump were patriots and Reagan a mass murderer.
Donald trump said publicly st least twice he was good friends with jfk jr the fact he knew his father was a patriot who wanted to get rid of the cia instead of giving them the green light to smuggle drugs into the USA as your hero Reagan did.sorry the truth hurts.there there now.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

It looks like you are a left-wing fanatic. So Islamic extremists and communists are allowed bloodshed, and when you kill their people you are bad? Typical left logic (female logic). To save the wolves, you need lambs on the altar.

Man what a dumbass who has been brainwashed by the cia controlled media and our corrupt school system same as Reagan’s nephew crusader retard.

 

[rupol2000]

cause he was trying to pull us out of vietnam

In other words, he wanted to be fucked by the Chinese communists? Was he sure there were enough passive homosexuals in the United States to satisfy the entire Chinese army?

 

[candycorn]

You have chosen the wrong moment for this proposal. Now it’s better to think about not having to kiss the asses of the Taliban.

Im sure you're first in line...

 

[rupol2000]

Im sure you're first in line...

This is true. Europe has almost made a decision to make it legal, but you are the second in line

 

[rupol2000]

In fact, Moscow was striving for precisely this, they just did not voice it. This is exactly what they did in the 80s - they attacked the Northern Alliance, it was Reagan who stopped them.

Under the Obama administration, the United States made fantastic concessions to Moscow by scrapping much of its missile defense program. This almost predetermined all subsequent events. Europe realized that the US gave up the slack and began to press. They will soon squeeze the US out of Europe, they don't care about the US army now. The US has an army but no political will to do anything. Now they are afraid of Europe, the Taliban, and China at the same time. Nobody takes them seriously after such cowardice.

 

[rupol2000]

The United States withdrew its troops from Afghanistan for no military reason, they simply gave Afghanistan to the Taliban for nothing. The Taliban were defeated and the main contingent of American troops was withdrawn in 2014, leaving only peacekeepers there. There was no war.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

the REAL Ronald Reagan exposed that the CIA controlled media will not tell us and our corrupt school system does not teach. This is WHY bastard Reagan was a success.

Noam Chomsky: Ronald Reagan's Secret, Genocidal Wars

Reagan waged a murderous assault on Central America.

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What if there was no Reagan? 1. The country would never have expanded war against drugs 2. As a result, 2% of US population wouldn't be living in prison 3. The country wouldn't have adopted no fault divorce 4. As a result, divorce rate wouldn't be at staggering 50% 5. Due to #1~4, US wouldn't have so many dysfunctional families 6. Due to #5, the overall number of violent crimes would be much lower 7. Most importantly, US national debt would be far lower than it is now 8. Result of #7, US citizens today would have much lower taxes. Reagan did so much damage to this country, I have no idea why all these dumb Americans continue worshipping him. He is not the president responsible for ending the cold war, cold war ended mostly due to Gorbachev. Any moron could've been seated as president at that era and he would still be credited as 'the president who ended cold war'. This is what America deserves for deciding to elect some incompetent actor as a president instead of another candidate with a more credible background.


There's no reason to think 9/11 wouldn't have happened if Reagan didn't become president IF the person who got elected in his place still funded Afghan rebels to fight the Russians in the 80s, such as Osama Bin Laden. And most likely, if Bush or whoever would've been in office instead, this still would've happened seeing how foreign policy rarely changes much from president to president, no matter the party. It's the one area of topics where the two parties are nearly identical if you take a step back and look at it all objectively. But there IS reason to think if Reagan wouldn't have become president, the American economy would likely be in much better shape today than it actually is. All of American politics shifted to the right after Reagan. If he wouldn't have become president, this wouldn't have happened. There wouldn't have been a mass redistribution of wealth from the bottom to the top. There wouldn't have been a take down of American labor unions and defacto there wouldn't have been trade policies passed such as NAFTA under Clinton (and was attempted under Bush). Clinton wouldn't have been an overall center-right Democrat signing conservative legislation into law as he did. In fact he likely wouldn't have even become president since it would've changed the whole line of succession and nation politics in general. It's a butterfly effect. Reagan doesn't become president, there isn't a shift in American politics to the right for a generation, there isn't a Republican majority in the House through the 90s and a rather conservative Democrat like Clinton likely wouldn't have even been nominated in the party, much less become president in the 90s passing numerous conservative bills via the Republican controlled congress. This means unions would've remained strong and still maintained a strong lobbying presence in politics, therefore no horrible trade bills like NAFTA getting passed and shipping American jobs to China and Mexico all to save CEOs a little on their bottom lines by paying employees less money. The list goes on and on. America's middle class would almost certainly still be the strong economic powerhouse we were through the 60s and 70s, the top 1% wouldn't have become so extremely wealthy that the number of billionaires in the country doubles, etc etc. The defense budget wouldn't be so unnecessarily overblown as it is today. And on and on and on............In short, America would likely be in a much better standing today if it weren't for Reagan coming to power in the 80s.

Reagan was all about bowing to Wall Street...
Open Borders that resulted in wage suppression for minorities and Blue Collar workers in construction.
Raygun partnered with Democrat Patrick Moynahan and every other US senator to pass laws that allowed Chinese and Japanese Business Visas to replace millions of Americans in the workforce.
Raygun signed the COBRA Act giving free health care to trespassers.
Raygun encouraged Off-Shoring in the guise of spreading Democracy and Capitalism when all it did was make the rich richer.

Dont shoot the messenger cause the truth hurts.Im just the messenger,get angry at the corporate controlled media and our corrupt school systems for supressing the truth and brainwashing you,not me.. I am very well versed in Reagan. I challenge the braindead Reaganut zombies to debate me out in the open in public everytime and checkmate them every single time as i always do on the boards as well.

I am not going to bother arguing with morons who cant accept reality to bother trying to reason and change anyones minds with the braindead zombies who cannot accept reality they were brainwashed all their lives,the information is there,accept it or keep your head burined in the sand and let the CIA controlled media WIN with their lies that you have swallowed hook,line and sinker over the years,.thats your choice if you choose to remain ignorant.I cant fix stupid


these patriotic Americans here below in this pic ACCEPT the truth they were brainwashed by the medias lies. too bad posters here at USMB like the OP,Crusader Retard and others are too arrogant and stupid to accept facts.

 

[rupol2000]

this is one of the direct consequences of the rejection of the Reagan policy

 

[whitehall]

Reagan's foreign policy wasn't that great. It just seemed stunning compared to the mess democrats made. It should be noted that the media didn't care for Reagan any more than they liked any other republican. The media supported Truman when he managed to blame Joe McCarthy for the mess he made with HUAC and the media saw to it that Nixon would be blamed for the mess LBJ made in Vietnam. Jimmie Carter didn't have a leg to stand on but his supporters in the media laughingly blame Reagan for the hostage crisis.