Reagan Said It Best

[Sallow]

Hmm. Inflation 1979 was about 8.5%. Unemployment was nearly 6%. Discount rate was 12%
Inflation 1988 was 3.6%, uemployment was 5.3%. Discount rate was 6.5%

Nah, Reagan didn't improve anything.
Too bad you weren't around then to see it for yourself.

I was.

The Homeless situation in NYC got far worse. He took a "halfway house" solution for mental patients and opened up the floodgates. We had shanty towns under the FDR and in parks like Thompkins Square. He also put taxes on unemployment and cut SSI to children of dead parents at the age of 18.

And all those economic improvements were thanks to the efforts of Paul Volcker..and nearly every economist agrees on that.

The homeless situation in NYC was Reagan's problem??? Are you ******* crazy??? Don't answer that.

Yeah..it was.

He kicked the mental patients out of state hospitals.

And don't ask questions you don't want answers too.

 

[Dante]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...-in-money-laundering-case-15.html#post3021009

What did Reagan promise to do?

*Balance the budget

*End draft registration.

*Eliminate Department of Energy

*Eliminate Department of Education

*Get the government off our backs

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One example of Reagan's real record of accomplishments from those evil socialists at the CATO Institute:

With Reagan's election in November 1980, various commentators expected registration to be one of the first programs to be swept away by the Reagan Revolution. But it was the middle of 1981 before he even established the Military Manpower Task Force to review the issue. Several tortuous months of bureaucratic warfare then ensued before Reagan announced, on January 7, 1982, that "we live in a dangerous world" and that he was maintaining registration.[2]

Draft Registration: It's Time to Repeal Carter's Final Legacy | Doug Bandow | Cato Institute: Policy Analysis

Watch for this type of revelation from Tea Party conservatives who've found religion --- or found a way to emulate Reagan and break promises.

Republican President Ronald Reagan pardoned, commuted or rescinded the convictions of 406 people during his term.

List of people pardoned or granted clemency by a United States president - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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GEORGE STEINBRENNER, 1989

Not wanting to appear soft on crime, President Ronald Reagan would only pardon Steinbrenner if the Yankees' owner admitted to the crime

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From Reagan's own cabinet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The 10 Most Notorious Presidential Pardons - George Steinbrenner - TIME

Casper Weinberger

 

[Dante]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...-in-money-laundering-case-15.html#post3021009

The corruption of a right wing Presidency

Prosecutions Resulting from Iran-Contra Affair
The Reagan Administration's Rogues' Gallery

Iran-Contra Affair Prosecutions, Convictions and Pardons - List of Prosecutions, Convictions and Pardons in Reagan's Iran-Contra Affair

After Independent Counsel Lawrence E. Walsh’s appointment in December 1986, 14 persons were charged with criminal offenses. Eleven persons were convicted, but two convictions were overturned on appeal. Two persons were pardoned before trial and one case was dismissed when the Bush Administration declined to declassify information necessary for trial. On December 24, 1992, President Bush pardoned Caspar W. Weinberger, Duane R. Clarridge, Clair E. George, Elliott Abrams, Alan D. Fiers, Jr., and Robert C. McFarlane.

 

[Dante]

Ronald Reagan's admin was so corrupt it is unbelievable people would still hail it as something great or even good.

The contenders for the title of "the most corrupt administration in American history" are all Republican administrations.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...-in-money-laundering-case-15.html#post3021009

 

[Sallow]

Well compared to President George W. Bush..Ronald Reagan comes off as practically a saint and genius.

And while I may think he should have been impeached and removed from office because of Iran/Contra, what he did with the Soviet Union is nothing less then extraordinary. That, alone, saves his presidency in a major way.

 

[Dante]

I think the Reagan administrations were as corrupt, or more so than George W. Bush's have supposedly been.

 

[Sallow]

I think the Reagan administrations were as corrupt, or more so than George W. Bush's have supposedly been.

That's fine..everyone is entitled to an opinion.

And mine is, no one violated the Constitution nearly as much as George W. Bush.

It kind of reminds me of an episode of the Simpson's where a doctor is explaining why Mr. Burns is still alive. There are so many diseases in him..they sort of cancel each other out.

It's the same with Bush. So many crimes were committed it's hard to focus on which one is the worst.

It is worth examining what exactly happened..and how it can be prevented in the future.

 

[Ame®icano]

Reagan, also couldn't take a leak without pissing down his leg.

At least, he didn't piss down someone elses leg, as LBJ did.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Listening to these liberal idiots and their completely failed attempts to attack Reagan is comical!

Nothing but totally debunked BS from liberal blogs that they run with as if they are actual facts!

Seriously, you lib's are making complete asses of yourselves......But then, that's the way alway it is.....And as their beloved Messiah continues to so abjectly fail, they are making asses of themselves on an even deeper level these days.

LMAO!

 

[Wicked Jester]

I think the Reagan administrations were as corrupt, or more so than George W. Bush's have supposedly been.

That's fine..everyone is entitled to an opinion.

And mine is, no one violated the Constitution nearly as much as George W. Bush.

It kind of reminds me of an episode of the Simpson's where a doctor is explaining why Mr. Burns is still alive. There are so many diseases in him..they sort of cancel each other out.

It's the same with Bush. So many crimes were committed it's hard to focus on which one is the worst.

It is worth examining what exactly happened..and how it can be prevented in the future.

What crimes, ya' paranoid liberal fool?

LMAO!

 

[Wicked Jester]

I think the Reagan administrations were as corrupt, or more so than George W. Bush's have supposedly been.

And not one bit of fact to back it up.

 

[daveman]

You don't think Reagan ran on 'hope' and 'change'?

...careful... lol

Yes, he did...and unlike Obama, he actually improved things.

Obama's handed you a shit sandwich, and with every mouthful, you're forced to say it's the best you've ever had.

Hell, you may even believe it.

Reagan didn't improve anything domestically..he made things worse. The deficit and debt went sky high and the bond markets/banks had to be bailed out.

I will give Reagan credit for seizing an opportunity that was facilitated by the Carter administration's wheat embargo and support for the Muj. Some wouldn't have seen it...but Reagan masterfully played stick/candy politics with the Soviets which led to them giving up on the Warsaw Pact.

...and eventually to the breakup of the Soviet Union.

 

[daveman]

Not by this stage in his presidency did he. And Obama has. So **** you. Stop lying.

Obama has? You have seen any news lately?

Yep. The recession ended over a year ago. Corporate profits at record levels. Want to know what was going on in November of 1982??

oh, of course, you already know, since you profess to be knowledgeable of the Reagan presidency.

TRANSLATION:
"Mmmmm...good shit sandwich."

 

[daveman]

No, like I posted it is and was lunacy and incredibly naive.

Iraq has cost the United States big. No matter how you slice it. It's put this country in the tank economically, has assured our involvement, militarily, for a long time to come, and destablized a huge source of oil. We are going to spend lots of time and money to keep it pacified. It's crushed our international prestige as a nation that respects others sovereign rights and has allowed for actions such as the invasion of Georgia and the suppression of riots in Tibet to go unabated. We simply didn't or don't have the moral grounding any more to complain about invasions that aren't instigated by real threats.

Do you want us to be the world's policeman, or not? Make up your mind.

Hell, if we're going to be the world's ATM, babysitting service, employment office, and supermarket, we may as well be the world's cop, too.

And as far as North Korea goes..it's nuts to think we can invade. The geopolitical climate doesn't allow for it. There is no way China would go for a united Korea without some kind of concession some where. And that concession might well be Taiwan. That..is simply unacceptable no matter how you cut it.

I guess you missed the part where I said it's not a viable action right now.

Where have I posted that we should be world police? In any case..using that as analogy...it seems the cop in this case beat the crap out of a guy in the street for giving him a harsh look. Bad form really.

Uh huh.

Say, I missed where you blame the Georgian invasion and the repression in Tibet on America. That's funny stuff!

And..yeah..missed the "viable action right now part". But given the conditions - it's not a viable action unless the North Koreans decide to go all out.

NoKo is overdue a smackdown...but they have to throw the first punch.

 

[daveman]

What an idiotic assessment. Firemen are required to go. Bush had a choice whether or not to send them.

And yes, I do not support their mission. And your obvious support of the mission and inability to come up with any justification of the necessity shows your lack of support for the troops.

I AM one of the troops. Dumbass. Are you going to claim I don't support myself?

I'm incapable of criticizing Dems? Did you forget my criticizm of Obama recently?

Guess I missed it. Let me guess...you criticized him for not being far enough left.

So try again......Please justify the invasion that resulted in the deaths of over 4,000 American troops.

There's really no point. You haven't gotten it in seven years. You're never going to.

 

[Douger]

WRONG WABBIT
RayGunz astrologer told him to say it best.
Go back to sleep.

 

[georgephillip]

"The reasons why Reagan's war on terror has been dispatched to the repository of unwelcome facts are understandable and informative -- about ourselves.

"Instantly, Reagan's war on terror became a savage terrorist war, leaving hundreds of thousands of tortured and mutilated corpses in the wreckage of Central America, tens of thousands more in the Middle East, and an estimated 1.5 million killed by South African terror that was strongly supported by the Reagan administration in violation of congressional sanctions.

"All of these murderous exercises of course had pretexts.

"The resort to violence always does.

"In the Middle East, Reagan's decisive support for Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon, which killed some 15-20,000 people and destroyed much of southern Lebanon and Beirut, was based on the pretense that it was in selfdefense against PLO rocketing of the Galilee, a brazen fabrication: Israel recognized at once that the threat was PLO diplomacy, which might have undermined Israel's illegal takeover of the occupied territories.

"In Africa, support for the marauding of the apartheid state was officially justified within the framework of the war on terror: it was necessary to protect white South Africa from one of the world's 'more notorious terrorist groups,' Nelson Mandela's African National Congress, so Washington determined in 1988.

"The pretexts in the other cases were no more impressive."

The evil scourge of terror...

 

[daveman]

WRONG WABBIT
RayGunz astrologer told him to say it best.
Go back to sleep.

Have you burned your US passport yet?

 

[The T]

I think the Reagan administrations were as corrupt, or more so than George W. Bush's have supposedly been.

That's fine..everyone is entitled to an opinion.

And mine is, no one violated the Constitution nearly as much as George W. Bush.

It kind of reminds me of an episode of the Simpson's where a doctor is explaining why Mr. Burns is still alive. There are so many diseases in him..they sort of cancel each other out.

It's the same with Bush. So many crimes were committed it's hard to focus on which one is the worst.

It is worth examining what exactly happened..and how it can be prevented in the future.

Where is the inquiry? Where are the formal charges?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Obama has? You have seen any news lately?

Yep. The recession ended over a year ago. Corporate profits at record levels. Want to know what was going on in November of 1982??

oh, of course, you already know, since you profess to be knowledgeable of the Reagan presidency.

TRANSLATION:
"Mmmmm...good shit sandwich."

Translation, daveman is left with nothing intelligent to respond with.

Comon, Mr. Reagan fan, tell us all what was going on in November of 1982...

...2 years after Reagan was elected.

Let's compare it to the Obama +2 situation.