Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

[CrusaderFrank]

The Reagan Lie Trifecta: Reagan destroyed the US economy, the USSR was going to collapse anyway and Reagan aided Jihadists

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yup, I think that unions need to go back to what they did in the good old days. It involved kneecaps and lead pipes. Fuck that inflatable rat shit. .

Which is one reason why all those jobs went south and east, and why you need to work three jobs instead of one.

because the 1%ers are suicidal greedy.

Yes, we know you guys are. It's like you never fucking learn.

Yes, paying people to inflate rats and protest is what made American great

Moron

 

[JoeB131]

Which is one reason why all those jobs went south and east, and why you need to work three jobs instead of one.

because the 1%ers are suicidal greedy.

Yes, we know you guys are. It's like you never fucking learn.

Yes, paying people to inflate rats and protest is what made American great

Moron

No, what labor NEEDS to do is go back tot he good old days.

This is a picket line. You cross it, you get your knees broken and you'll have no one to blame but yourself.

This is how we got a middle class in this country.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yeah, unions. Awesome. In NYC they add anywhere from 25% to 33% to to cost of construction depending on trade. In other words, a project that cost normal people 10MM will cost 12-13 if you use Union Labor.

Yeah, so? That extra 2-3 million goes back into the economy with working folks having a little more money in their pocket. I'm not seeing the problem here that the people who DID the work actually see a little more of the money.

My office is on 42nd and Lex and everyday I meet union "workers", 4 of them. They start each day by inflating a large rat, blowing whistles and handing out flyers protesting that the building choose not to use Union masons. Can you imagine paying 4 people to protest? Normal business would take that money and spend it on sales and promotion. But not Joe's beloved Unions.

Yup, I think that unions need to go back to what they did in the good old days. It involved kneecaps and lead pipes. Fuck that inflatable rat shit.

Joe hit the trifecta of Reagan Lies: Reagan destroyed the economy, the USSR fells because they just felt like it and Reagan armed Jihadists.

3 for 3, Joe

Perfect Pathology

i'm still waiting for you tell me what Reagan actually did to bring down the USSR.

Exactly. Specifically.

thanks.

Joe in the private sector we work with budgets. Look it up: budget. If I have a $10mm budget I can either hire nonunion and get all $10mm done or I hire union and only get $8mm or the work done ans as Lecter said "half an arch won't stand"

That's why your redistribution economics have a 100% fail guarantee. In the Bronx the BP made a living wage requirements for redevelopment of the kingsbridge Armory. No one in his right mind would take that deal so the Bronx is getting a useless ice skating rink.

 

[JoeB131]

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Joe in the private sector we work with budgets. Look it up: budget. If I have a $10mm budget I can either hire nonunion and get all $10mm done or I hire union and only get $8mm or the work done ans as Lecter said "half an arch won't stand"

That's why your redistribution economics have a 100% fail guarantee. In the Bronx the BP made a living wage requirements for redevelopment of the kingsbridge Armory. No one in his right mind would take that deal so the Bronx is getting a useless ice skating rink.

Guy, I work with budgets in the private sector all day.

Labor is only a small slice of the pie, and when working folks have more money, they spend more and you have more commerce. It's really kind of simple, and you guys don't understand it.

We had our greatest prosperity when the workforce was highly unionized and the wealthy paid their fair share.

We totally need to go back to that.

 

[Camp]

Yeah, unions. Awesome. In NYC they add anywhere from 25% to 33% to to cost of construction depending on trade. In other words, a project that cost normal people 10MM will cost 12-13 if you use Union Labor.

Yeah, so? That extra 2-3 million goes back into the economy with working folks having a little more money in their pocket. I'm not seeing the problem here that the people who DID the work actually see a little more of the money.



Yup, I think that unions need to go back to what they did in the good old days. It involved kneecaps and lead pipes. Fuck that inflatable rat shit.

Joe hit the trifecta of Reagan Lies: Reagan destroyed the economy, the USSR fells because they just felt like it and Reagan armed Jihadists.

3 for 3, Joe

Perfect Pathology

i'm still waiting for you tell me what Reagan actually did to bring down the USSR.

Exactly. Specifically.

thanks.

Joe in the private sector we work with budgets. Look it up: budget. If I have a $10mm budget I can either hire nonunion and get all $10mm done or I hire union and only get $8mm or the work done ans as Lecter said "half an arch won't stand"

That's why your redistribution economics have a 100% fail guarantee. In the Bronx the BP made a living wage requirements for redevelopment of the kingsbridge Armory. No one in his right mind would take that deal so the Bronx is getting a useless ice skating rink.

It isn't labors fault that the obscenely wealthy bankers and investors are fighting over the amount of cash they can skim. The fight has leaked into the media and public knowledge and appears to be a text book case of how the power elite rob the tax payers and tax payer supported projects. One guy is demanding a HALF MILLION DOLLAR pay for his part time work. But lets ignore that and blame the cost of labor instead.

 

[Meathead]

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Joe in the private sector we work with budgets. Look it up: budget. If I have a $10mm budget I can either hire nonunion and get all $10mm done or I hire union and only get $8mm or the work done ans as Lecter said "half an arch won't stand"

That's why your redistribution economics have a 100% fail guarantee. In the Bronx the BP made a living wage requirements for redevelopment of the kingsbridge Armory. No one in his right mind would take that deal so the Bronx is getting a useless ice skating rink.

Guy, I work with budgets in the private sector all day.

Labor is only a small slice of the pie, and when working folks have more money, they spend more and you have more commerce. It's really kind of simple, and you guys don't understand it.

We had our greatest prosperity when the workforce was highly unionized and the wealthy paid their fair share.

We totally need to go back to that.

That's kind of the point. Hosts either remove the parasite or perish. No one is going to pay top dollar to unions for work that can be done at a fraction by others. Those days are gone forever. Too much competition.

 

[Toro]

Yup, I think that unions need to go back to what they did in the good old days. It involved kneecaps and lead pipes. Fuck that inflatable rat shit. .

Which is one reason why all those jobs went south and east, and why you need to work three jobs instead of one.

because the 1%ers are suicidal greedy.

Yes, we know you guys are. It's like you never fucking learn.

I'm not investing with goons and thugs like you. I'm just not. No matter how much you whine.

It's my capital, not yours. And I will go to where I am treated best, not where union Neanderthals might terrorize my kids because I have to lay them off.

 

[Toro]

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Joe in the private sector we work with budgets. Look it up: budget. If I have a $10mm budget I can either hire nonunion and get all $10mm done or I hire union and only get $8mm or the work done ans as Lecter said "half an arch won't stand"

That's why your redistribution economics have a 100% fail guarantee. In the Bronx the BP made a living wage requirements for redevelopment of the kingsbridge Armory. No one in his right mind would take that deal so the Bronx is getting a useless ice skating rink.

Guy, I work with budgets in the private sector all day.

Labor is only a small slice of the pie, and when working folks have more money, they spend more and you have more commerce. It's really kind of simple, and you guys don't understand it.

We had our greatest prosperity when the workforce was highly unionized and the wealthy paid their fair share.

We totally need to go back to that.

Ah, Joe. Making shit up on the Internet again. What's new? Labor is by far and away the biggest cost in business.

You union thugs did it to yourself. Believing such nonsense is probably a big reason why.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Reagan's policy was to cut individual and corporate tax rates sharply, and to restrain the growth in government spending and regulation. The Democrats, who were in control of the House, resisted and delayed the Reagan tax cuts, so they were not fully implemented until 1983. Obama had the luxury of having his party in control of both houses of Congress, so he was able to get his proposed, massive government spending increases enacted almost immediately.

When Reagan left office in January 1989, he had presided over "seven fat years," as Bob Bartley, the now-deceased editor of The Wall Street Journal, called the Reagan era. Unemployment was half of its recession high, economic growth averaged more than 4 percent after the recession bottom in 1982, the deficit was falling and was under a very manageable 3 percent of gross domestic product, the GDP-debt ratio was falling, inflation had dropped by about two-thirds, and every American individual and company had seen very sharp reductions in their marginal tax rates — the maximum rate fell from 70 percent to only 28 percent by the time Reagan left office.
Keynesian economics, practiced during the late 1960s and 1970s, became thoroughly discredited with the stagflation of the 1970s — which, in theory, was impossible under the old model — and the subsequent Reagan supply-side boom.

The Clinton administration, after its so-so economic performance in the first term with small increases in tax rates and government spending, partially reverted to Reaganomics in its second term; with a capital-gains rate cut and reductions in spending as a percentage of GDP. The result was very strong economic growth and budget surpluses

Obama?s Economics Failing Under Keynesian Policies

the quote from the newsmax article stating that the deficit fell under Reagan is BIG FAT LIE.... you should know that and recognize a lie when you see one.....

paid disinformation agents like him and crusader retard have no interests in FACTS,when confronted with them,they do what their handlers pay them to do,troll these boards and post lies in hopes of brainwashing lurkers that come on here who can think for themsleves.they got them everywhere on message boards.

they ignore facts from figures posted in the 80's, actual sources that were posted in newspapers back then,that reagan wrecked the ecomomy and we were much worse going into the 90's than we ever were before reagan got in office.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

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You never saw it coming. Reagan made it a priority and it happened

Now you're all butthurt he crushed your home team so you have to lie about it

Guy, I was in the Army at the time the USSR fell in 1989, long after Reagan had left to enjoy his senile dementia.

No, no one saw it coming. The Army was still publishing these big glossy OPFOR books about how scary the USSR was because they had technology that was 20 years behind ours. We were still wargaming the Fulda Gap scenario of a Soviet Invasion of Germany that we now know they never could have pulled off.

so much for crusader retards ramblings that reagan ended the cold war.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Reagan entered office in 1981 with a short "to do" list

1. Let US Businesses get back to work
2. Crush the USSR

By the time he left we were in the middle of the largest and longest peacetime economic expansion in history and the USSR was finished

People have been lying about his results and that's their problem

Unfortunately, he didn't accomplish either.

Manufacturing jobs declined under Reagan.


thats the understatement of the century.

 

[Meathead]

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You never saw it coming. Reagan made it a priority and it happened

Now you're all butthurt he crushed your home team so you have to lie about it

Guy, I was in the Army at the time the USSR fell in 1989, long after Reagan had left to enjoy his senile dementia.

No, no one saw it coming. The Army was still publishing these big glossy OPFOR books about how scary the USSR was because they had technology that was 20 years behind ours. We were still wargaming the Fulda Gap scenario of a Soviet Invasion of Germany that we now know they never could have pulled off.

so much for crusader retards ramblings that reagan ended the cold war.

Yeah, now all you have to do is change history.

Fool

 

[JoeB131]

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That's kind of the point. Hosts either remove the parasite or perish. No one is going to pay top dollar to unions for work that can be done at a fraction by others. Those days are gone forever. Too much competition.

The only parasites I see are the investors. They aren't actually making anything.

The people who make stuff the stuff aren't the problem, guy.

And frankly, we can't compete against shitholes that use child labor no matter how much we debase ourselves, so we shouldn't even try.

 

[JoeB131]

Which is one reason why all those jobs went south and east, and why you need to work three jobs instead of one.

because the 1%ers are suicidal greedy.

Yes, we know you guys are. It's like you never fucking learn.

I'm not investing with goons and thugs like you. I'm just not. No matter how much you whine.

It's my capital, not yours. And I will go to where I am treated best, not where union Neanderthals might terrorize my kids because I have to lay them off.

well, that's the thing, you odn't have to lay them off. And frankly, we need to start treating the investment bankers like organized crime.

Actually, scratch that, I have more respect for the Mafia than Wall Street.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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You never saw it coming. Reagan made it a priority and it happened

Now you're all butthurt he crushed your home team so you have to lie about it

Guy, I was in the Army at the time the USSR fell in 1989, long after Reagan had left to enjoy his senile dementia.

No, no one saw it coming. The Army was still publishing these big glossy OPFOR books about how scary the USSR was because they had technology that was 20 years behind ours. We were still wargaming the Fulda Gap scenario of a Soviet Invasion of Germany that we now know they never could have pulled off.

You were in Soviet Army

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama?s Economics Failing Under Keynesian Policies

the quote from the newsmax article stating that the deficit fell under Reagan is BIG FAT LIE.... you should know that and recognize a lie when you see one.....

paid disinformation agents like him and crusader retard have no interests in FACTS,when confronted with them,they do what their handlers pay them to do,troll these boards and post lies in hopes of brainwashing lurkers that come on here who can think for themsleves.they got them everywhere on message boards.

they ignore facts from figures posted in the 80's, actual sources that were posted in newspapers back then,that reagan wrecked the ecomomy and we were much worse going into the 90's than we ever were before reagan got in office.

Hilarious that HWs disinformation agent is accusing me of being just like him

 

[CrusaderFrank]

because the 1%ers are suicidal greedy.

Yes, we know you guys are. It's like you never fucking learn.

I'm not investing with goons and thugs like you. I'm just not. No matter how much you whine.

It's my capital, not yours. And I will go to where I am treated best, not where union Neanderthals might terrorize my kids because I have to lay them off.

well, that's the thing, you odn't have to lay them off. And frankly, we need to start treating the investment bankers like organized crime.

Actually, scratch that, I have more respect for the Mafia than Wall Street.

Joe your attitude is why Progressive economies fail 100% of the time. Capital is the life blood of an economy

 

[JoeB131]

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Joe your attitude is why Progressive economies fail 100% of the time. Capital is the life blood of an economy

No it isn't.

Capital is a parasite that has convinced you it's a vital organ, and its spends as much time selling junk as providing needed services.

Whenever you guys whine 'Well, you see, Socailism didn't work", it's usually a country like Cuba that wasn't any great shakes before Socialism was tried. And you ignore Europe and Japan where it works just fine.

 

[Toro]

Actually, scratch that, I have more respect for the Mafia than Wall Street.

You support goons and thugs, so that's not a surprise.