There is nothing magical about sorcery, the magical arts, what we call mind control, MKUltra, etc.
Its science man!
And there is nothing magical about a talking serpent, the Nachash, which in hebrew is both a noun and an adjective meaning, serpent, brazen, shiny one, and or one who practices divination,the magical arts, sorcery, what we call mind control. The stars of antiquity.
This is no magical truth, This is the actual truth. There has been a worldwide plague of talking serpents let loose in every nation since way before you or the authors of scripture were born. You just call them snake oil salesmen, religious fanatics, conmen, charlatans, or politicians.
The Nachash comes in many guises.
You are nothing more than a gesticulating witch doctor in the jungle without a clue proudly wearing the worn out phrase "magical bullshit" in vain like an ornamental bone in your nose.
Your very own disturbing yet tailor made disguise.
Dear
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While I am consulting with
Toffeenut Baconsmuggler how to set up quantifiable replicable science based research capturing and measuring how positive prayer energy impacts healing and health, of mind body and relations by agreed statistical parameters,
It seems you two have pinpointed the opposite approach and how to prove and measure the negative energy and impact in real world effects of sorcery and spells.
What I can offer to that end, is to replicate the findings of Larry Dossey's cited cases of the Hawaiian Death Curse:
In his book Prayer is Good Medicine, he cited cases of the dark curses or spells, wishing death on people, which caused creeping paralysis to go up their legs and eventually kill them. He cited that victims were affected who had no conscious knowledge they were targeted.
So he claimed this showed proof that the "placebo" could not explain the impact, since the people suffering the paralysis symptoms did not know they were being prayed or preyed upon.
Also, the claims by Silva mind control proponents include references to studies on prayer, that two people geographically separated who were not aware of when the other person went into prayer mode, both went into it at the same time. Supposedly their brain activity was being recorded, and both entered the prayer state simultaneously.
Another study, I can't remember if it was Princeton or which established university conducted it, had regular randomly selected people focus on trying to make a random number generator "hit" a chosen target result, like a given number series. What the study found was that whether people "prayed or concentrated" before or after the generator was run and the results were created, there was the same degree of correlation, a statistical increase, in getting results closer to the targeted goal rather than not trying at all to affect this outcome which produced random results. The amount of increase was statistically significantly higher than random, but it did not matter if the prayer process occurred *before or after.* The measured change was still the same. The conclusion was that the concentrated effort made was "independent of linear time" and that this was shown using regular subjects of average/random abilities and not special talents, interests or experience with psychic or spiritual practices.
Most recently a neuroscientist in Houston studied the timing of changes in brain activity when subjects made decisions to do simple tasks, like moving a coffee cup, and the accompanying brain activity to perform that action. His studies found that the activity to start moving the cup began in time before the person made the conscious decision. So he proposed this finding meant there were other forces or factors in play in addition to conscious free will.
In general Dossey and brain researchers found that the prayer mode is universal in brains of people whether Theist or Nontheist. Thus, we can study and replicate studies on the effects and process of prayer, if we can set up studies that effectively isolate and quantify the factors.
With TMBS, I would propose to isolate the factor of forgiveness/unforgiveness to show correlations with rates of success and failure. Christian healers with experience in troubleshooting the process, also report key factors such as: failing to identify and pray for forgiveness over the cause of blockage in someone's mind or history, and also obstructive or negative energy introduced by others (we could try quantifying this also, by cases of people affected or affiliated with agents involved in dark energy practices, or the factor of third parties praying either in agreement with good faith, or opposed or with negative skepticism and wishing ill or failure on others.)
I would like to pinpoint, compare and measure both the brain activity and results when dealing with
* positive forgiveness uplifting and lifegiving energy and prayers invoked by prayers in agreement in Christ Jesus
* negative or ill will wishing using energy against or in competition/conflict with that
* neutral or open approaches that accept help and prayers from Christian healers but do not renounce the negative but trear them as equal and do not exclude either one
I believe the results will show the most faithful prayers putting greater faith in forgiveness and Christ Jesus will have greater success with recovery from negative obstructions to health and healing.
People open to receiving this prayer will have proportional success rates of correlation, relative to ability to forgive and heal, regardless of affiliation.
And people rejecting, attacking, refusing to forgive and excluding others will have proportional rates/correlation with failure.
While people actively competing using negative dark energy to attack and wish ill on others will have the worst rates of failures and ills in their relations and history.
The correlating factors to focus on will be forgiveness/inclusion and unforgiveness/rejection.
I find these are the most relevant factors regardless of the person's affiliation or denomination.
The amount of energy and obstruction involved in unforgiveness, retribution, rejection and ill will is a causal factor.
While the positive effects of forgiveness and actively seeking reconciliation in an uplifting, healing way correlates with positive results as well.
Studies can likely show correlation, while the internal mechanisms of the process may or may not be captured fully by science. Technology can help measure the brain activity, though we may never be able to prove "causality" we could still capture "correlations" using statistics based on what subjects report they consciously forgive or reject, believe and support or deny and denounce and to what degree.
What do you think of this approach to scienctific study using neurological measures of brain waves/activity, while documenting the levels of forgiveness and rejection/retribution in subjects, and then capturing the correlation with healing or failure to heal: mental, physical and social conditions in relationships?
I am interested in studying the impact on mental and criminal illness, starting with something short term like eating disorders and addictive phobias, and developing longer term applications to address pedophilia and more difficult dangerous disorders with higher relapse rates of failure that take longer to change.
I met a woman who was healed of a phobia triggered by flames or fire, by doing generational meditation and prayer to identify and remove the addictive attachment around a specific memory, in her case, a connection with a monk from previous generations who performed all his rituals using candles. Once this event was identified and prayed over, the phobia completely disappeared.
Francis MacNutt reported similar results praying for a woman who had lost her ability to feel emotions. When they prayed, he had a vision of a young girl with a dog and asked the woman did it mean something to her? She admitted she never got over losing her "best friend" her parents had put down. But after they prayed to forgive and give up that obstruction, then the woman regained her ability to feel again. Both joy or sadness, emotions in general.
I had similar experiences regaining feeling after I had been numb and in denial for years in grief. And realized later it was the prayers for forgiveness that opened up the channels to feel again and receive thoughts and ideas I did not know I was shutting off.
When I recommend forgiveness and healing prayer to others, they invariably experience similar openings and changes, unique to their own experiences and process, and unpredictably different for each person. But they consistently report feeling more successful and better able to think and understand more productively than before when they were stuck in the past ways or approaches that were negative.
Studies on forgiveness already show correlation with better health. What we can do more specifically is replicate studies to pinpoint and measure impact on quantifiable goals, that can be captured in a given timeframe and structure.
I am guessing the eating disorders could provide immediate results of improvement or cure from addictive phobias for a short term study.
Francis MacNutt chose Rheumatoid Arthritis for a study funded by Templeton Fdn.
I am also interested in showing the impact on reconciling and healing political relations and collaboration between opposing groups.
And specifically want to address criminal illness and abuse to reform the mental health and prison system by treating criminal sickness as medical disorders with greater chance of reducing or curing by earlier diagnosis, intervention and treatment similar to cancer or diabetes that can be measured in stages and do not need to be criminalized.
