Rape and Islam

[Lastamender]

Let's try this thread here. Islam does sanction rape.

Tabari VIII:117 - The fate of more captured farm wives, whom the Muslims distributed amongst themselves as sex slaves: "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims."

 

[irosie91]

Let's try this thread here. Islam does sanction rape.

Tabari VIII:117 - The fate of more captured farm wives, whom the Muslims distributed amongst themselves as sex slaves: "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims."

 

[irosie91]

Let's try this thread here. Islam does sanction rape.

Tabari VIII:117 - The fate of more captured farm wives, whom the Muslims distributed amongst themselves as sex slaves: "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims."

you do not understand----the taking of a slave in war is LEGAL in islam----
and having sex with a slave is LEGAL in islam------it is not rape. I am not
sure that there is a word in Arabic for COERCED SEX------in the USA --coerced
sex is called rape. There was a time when people in western culture INSISTED
that a man cannot by legal definition "rape" his wife------now we call all
coerced sex "rape"----but that's USA ENGLISH-------you are fighting semantics

 

[Ancient lion]

And your point is...

 

[irosie91]

And your point is...

What is YOUR point, old cat?

 

[Tilly]

Why are you worried about Islam when 15% of the females on University of Texas Austin campus report having been raped. That's about one in six. The other U.T. campuses report 9%, or almost one in ten.
You're all concerned about ISLAM? Who gives a shit? Let's turn that laser light of yours on a real problem, here at home.

New details emerge from rape survey of UT students | Higher Education | Dallas News

Why don't you start a thread about that instead of hijacking this one in Religion and Ethics?

 

[Mousterian]

Why don't you start a thread about that instead of hijacking this one in Religion and Ethics?

This thread is about culturally-sanctioned rape, is it not?

 

[OldLady]

Why don't you start a thread about that instead of hijacking this one in Religion and Ethics?

This thread is about culturally-sanctioned rape, is it not?

Thanks, but she's probably right. He does seem to hang here. I can save my fire for another forum.

 

[Tilly]

Why don't you start a thread about that instead of hijacking this one in Religion and Ethics?

This thread is about culturally-sanctioned rape, is it not?

No, it's about Islam and rape.

 

[Lastamender]

Let's try this thread here. Islam does sanction rape.

Tabari VIII:117 - The fate of more captured farm wives, whom the Muslims distributed amongst themselves as sex slaves: "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims."

you do not understand----the taking of a slave in war is LEGAL in islam----
and having sex with a slave is LEGAL in islam------it is not rape. I am not
sure that there is a word in Arabic for COERCED SEX------in the USA --coerced
sex is called rape. There was a time when people in western culture INSISTED
that a man cannot by legal definition "rape" his wife------now we call all
coerced sex "rape"----but that's USA ENGLISH-------you are fighting semantics

The fact that it is legal in Islam is what I am talking about. Very good.

 

[Lastamender]

And your point is...

What is YOUR point, old cat?

Two wrongs make a right?

 

[aris2chat]

Let's try this thread here. Islam does sanction rape.

Tabari VIII:117 - The fate of more captured farm wives, whom the Muslims distributed amongst themselves as sex slaves: "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims."

you do not understand----the taking of a slave in war is LEGAL in islam----
and having sex with a slave is LEGAL in islam------it is not rape. I am not
sure that there is a word in Arabic for COERCED SEX------in the USA --coerced
sex is called rape. There was a time when people in western culture INSISTED
that a man cannot by legal definition "rape" his wife------now we call all
coerced sex "rape"----but that's USA ENGLISH-------you are fighting semantics

اغتصاب is arabic for rape



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[irosie91]

thank you aris------I did not know -----just what does the Arabic word " غتصاب"
connote ? -------can you tell me what the letters are so I can imagine that I am
trying to dig for the ROOT ? Are the activities of the big mo and his merry
sahabah (?) friends described as " غتصاب" rape?

 

[aris2chat]

thank you aris------I did not know -----just what does the Arabic word " غتصاب"
connote ? -------can you tell me what the letters are so I can imagine that I am
trying to dig for the ROOT ? Are the activities of the big mo and his merry
sahabah (?) friends described as " غتصاب" rape?

rape - Arabic translation - bab.la English-Arabic dictionary
en.bab.la/dictionary/english-arabic/rape
Translation for 'rape' in the free English-Arabic dictionary and many otherArabic translations.
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[irosie91]

Why don't you start a thread about that instead of hijacking this one in Religion and Ethics?

This thread is about culturally-sanctioned rape, is it not?

yes MOUSTER------the OldCat is confused--------because of his culture. He cited
a biblical thing regarding war captives----specifically unmarried girls. According
to his CULTURE-----such girls are legal targets of rape. -----in biblical law-----
female captives, specifically, cannot be raped----in fact the captors cannot even
engage in consensual sex with them. They are considered MOURNERS which means they cannot even be asked to wash the dishes for a period of several months.
It's his culture that confuses him