Rand Paul doubles down on big, beautiful bill criticism after Trump slam

[TemplarKormac]

Let me see if I have this straight: You're elated that Rand Paul disagrees with Trump, but Rand Paul wants to gut more of your beloved entitlements?

You libs certainly are curious specimens.

I mean, you're not wrong here.

Totally inconsistent.

 

[Dorian Mode]

I mean, you're not wrong here.

Totally inconsistent.

Let's not forget how much the democraps absolutely hated GW Bush and then the first time GW Bush criticized Trump he became beloved. Ditto for many other GOP politicians like Dick Cheney and his daughter. It is truly impressive how EVERYTHING in the democrap party revolves solely around resisting Trump. The truth is, the democrap party is actually defined by Trump, not themselves. The democrap ship has no rudder, no sails, no helm, not even a paddle. But it has this magical ability to go against the Trump current.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Musk is right in that the U.S needs to balance it's deficit. It is unsustainable and everyone knows it. Surely all Western nations can get to spending levels at least pre-covid can't they?

 

[pknopp]

That is the $4 trillion question

What new or old spending programs are the critics opposed to?

Just like I said with Biden. If its not paid for, all of it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

He'll now be labeled a traitor by MAGA and they'll demand he be primaried.

Sad but true

 

[egp320i]

Nonetheless, despite all the 'conservative' pearl clutching in the Senate, the bill is going to pass. What will be in it is the point.

odd that we the people don't get any rough draft to see what we signed up for, good or bad.
it's all in the hands of those we voted in to represent us.......but do they really or are they all in it for themselves?
this is why a smaller government would be better........cut out the fat, make it more lean

 

[egp320i]

That is the $4 trillion question

What new or old spending programs are the critics opposed to?

they pick and choose depending on their party, how it helps them, their state and to make sure they are favorable enough to get re-elected to keep pulling in a salary on your dime, getting the perks of insider trading and befriending wealthy people in high places.
the grift goes on and on......power loves power and will damn near kill to keep it

 

[Vrenn]

Don't confuse the RINOs with "conservatives." They're not even close. RINO's are closer to the democrats than the conservatives.
IE, there's only about 20 actual conservatives in the GOP.

You need to separate the Conservatives from the MAGAts. MAGAts are showing they blindly follow an insanity Orange Cheeto. You want to see what a real conservative looks like? Take a good look at the I Like Ikes.,

 

[pknopp]

You need to separate the Conservatives from the MAGAts. MAGAts are showing they blindly follow an insanity Orange Cheeto. You want to see what a real conservative looks like? Take a good look at the I Like Ikes.,

The bill passed the House which means NO fiscal conservatives there. I'm betting it passes the Senate which would mean maybe one hold out.

 

[Vrenn]

The bill passed the House which means NO fiscal conservatives there. I'm betting it passes the Senate which would mean maybe one hold out.

As a staunch Fiscal Conservative, I fear that you are right. Today, we are cashing checks with funds we don't have. But if it passes in it's current form, the bad checks will continue and they will start purchasing very large money orders.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Lay Say Is Fair Economics Free Market Capitalism Globalists "

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Two trillion in child tax credits , pretentious in more on a party promoting life - Zone1 - Anthropocentic Psychosis : How Compelling And To Which Ends Are Its Impacts Within Hue Mammon Society ? .

Those vying for sectarian education are pushing for government to establish religion through school vouchers created and received from taxation .

* Selective Endowment Contracts Through Government *

How is issuing blanket tax cuts , or blanket tariffs , rather than issuing selective tax cuts or tariffs , supposed to positively or negatively affect us general welfare , which is interrelated with us national debt ?

The laissez faire free market capitalists push for blanket tax cuts , however an american school of economics proposes a more directed approach of neomercantilism for national economic interests , while article 1 section 8 of us constitution expects the directed approach be established through congress .

. https://pclt.defense.gov/DIRECTORATES/IOD/Library/Constitution/ .

. American School (economics) - Wikipedia .

. Why Find Waste To Decrease National Debt But Spend It Elsewhere Or On Tax Cuts ? .

. Public Private Trust .


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“This massive, outrageous, pork-filled Congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination,” Musk posted Tuesday on the social platform X, warning that the bill will increase the federal deficit. “Shame on those who voted for it: you know you did wrong. You know it.”

 

[LordBrownTrout]

explain to me why musk and some R's are bitching about this bill? what exactly is in it they really don't like?
no tax on tips? no tax on OT?
The bill is 1000 pages which is insanity, longer than moby dick so what else is in there we don't know?

.............Its like nancy says, we must pass it so we can find out whats in it.

 

[pknopp]

.............Its like nancy says, we must pass it so we can find out whats in it.

And she was ridiculed for that. It was one of the reasons Democrats lost big time in 2010.

The two parties will never learn.

 

[kyzr]

Musk is right in that the U.S needs to balance it's deficit. It is unsustainable and everyone knows it. Surely all Western nations can get to spending levels at least pre-covid can't they?

Actually no. Since 2019 the interest on the $36T debt tripled to $1T. So we'd need to get to a $5.xT budget, not a $4.xT Budget.

 

[kyzr]

You need to separate the Conservatives from the MAGAts. MAGAts are showing they blindly follow an insanity Orange Cheeto. You want to see what a real conservative looks like? Take a good look at the I Like Ikes.,

You look at the "fake conservatives" (Jeb?) and lose elections. I'll stick with Populists (Trump) and win elections.
Remember your "conservative land of confusion"?

 

[22lcidw]

He'll now be labeled a traitor by MAGA and they'll demand he be primaried.

It is a shame that Progressives do not do the same thing. You guys ostracize and destroy your own who do not toe the line 100%. Republicans have had enough opportunities in the past to do the thigs they promoted. If this piece of legislation is not what is everything that was wanted, then the future ones need to be closer to it. Progs will convince the general population that all the citizens will die and enough will believe it. I hope they are held to pay for their traitorous convictions with justice against them when the time comes. And the convictions are just the lust for power.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

And she was ridiculed for that. It was one of the reasons Democrats lost big time in 2010.

The two parties will never learn.

That was the obamacare bill that dems forced upon us.

 

[pknopp]

That was the obamacare bill that dems forced upon us.

And? I addressed that.

 

[egp320i]

As a staunch Fiscal Conservative, I fear that you are right. Today, we are cashing checks with funds we don't have. But if it passes in it's current form, the bad checks will continue and they will start purchasing very large money orders.

I was under the impression from your many responses you were a radical leftist?
the biggest joke of all is the child tax credit, all that does it tell low income families and yes many non-white to pump out more kids so you can get a larger check........is that really what we need right now?
if you are just irresponsible and want to have kids you probably don't want you should not be rewarded with money

 

[initforme]

I remember when my father had to go into a nursing home
Medicaid paid a bunch of it. Are we cutting its use for nursing homes? That would be wrong in every possible way you look at it.