Rahmbo Pledges Bipartisan Approach

[DiveCon]

Oh. The guy that sent the dead fish to the pollster he disagreed with? Nothing radical about THAT, is there?

well, one of the most partisan senators in the senate hired one of the most partisan guys in the house to run his office

guess that means this administration will be the most bi-partisan in history

 

[WillowTree]

Spoken like a true armchair quarterback. You have no idea how many times Obama has voted with Republicans. I bet none of you do and would have to scour google to find it. You just spew half-truths you hear on TV and make it the prime subject of your talking point. Obama is partisan! Rham is partisan! They're going to create a partisan, left-wing cabinet and the entire country is going to be run by the left for the next 4 years! Oh no!

Someone wake me up when they have actual facts to discuss instead of speculative bullshit.

Rip Van Winkle!

 

[WillowTree]

Isn't Rahm from Chicargo?

 

[The Paperboy]

Isn't Rahm from Chicargo?

Yes, which means there is a 50-50 chance he will be indicted some time soon.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yes, which means there is a 50-50 chance he will be indicted some time soon.

Yup, that about the same chance as one has being a Republican.

 

[bk1983]

Yes, which means there is a 50-50 chance he will be indicted some time soon.

 

[bk1983]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHX-g1FtaMs]YouTube - Barack Obama at the Roast of Representative Rahm Emanuel[/ame]

 

[BlackAsCoal]

I'm not sure, Emanuel and bi-partisan certainly would be an oxymoron, however I don't think he's there for the severely curtailed opposition party, rather the leadership of a very unpopular Congress:

Rahm Emanuel: 'Do What You Got Elected to Do' - WSJ.com

Absolutely correct .. but I'd like to modify Emanuel's slogan a bit .. Say What What You Got to Say to Get Elected .. then run to the center.

Both Emanuel and Obama have demonstrated a disdain for the left. Obama's comes from his days in Chicago politics and his loss to Bobby Rush .. make that ex-Panther Congressman Bobby Rush, when Chicago's left, including Jesse Jackson, backed Rush not him.

Emanuel is an Isreali hard-liner and one of the forces behind getting rid of Howard Dean.

Yep, Emanuel had democrats out saying all kinds of shit the left wanted to hear in 2006 and they won surprising victories by rallying the left and antiwar forces in particular.

Question: -- When democrats took control of Congress, did they "Do What You Got Elected to Do?" .. Hell no they didn't and Emanuel himself was one of the obstacles to democrats doing what they were elected to do which was mainly to end the Iraq War.

Here is a question from an interview between Emanuel and Tim Russert in 2005 .. when the wr had already proven to be a fraud.

MR. RUSSERT: You voted–you said you would have voted for the war if you had been in Congress.

REP. EMANUEL: Right.

MR. RUSSERT: Now, knowing that are no weapons of mass destruction, would you still have cast that vote?

REP. EMANUEL: Yes. Well, you could have done–well, as you know, I didn’t vote for it. I still believe that getting rid of Saddam Hussein was the right thing to do, OK? But how you go about it and how you execute that war is the problems we face today.

MR. RUSSERT: So even knowing there are no weapons of mass destruction, you would still vote to go into Iraq?

REP. EMANUEL: You can make–you could have made a case that Saddam Hussein was a threat, and what you could have done also, Tim, is worked with other countries, go through the U.N., take the time to do it. Again, the problems with our troops and the country today faces in Iraq isn’t about whether we should or should not have gone to war, whether we should or should not have removed Saddam Hussein, it’s how they have pursued this war, the lack of planning, the lack of processing, thinking about there was no plan, as you know, for after we removed Saddam Hussein, what would you do. There was no plan for–as you know, before war, you had to have an exit strategy. One has not even been annunciated. There’s been a presumption that we were going to be greeted as liberators. There was a presumption this would be quick and easy, and then we can turn the country over. None of that has been laid out, and that has to do with the competency and the planning that goes in, and they did not have a plan for the day after “hostilities ended.”

Don't anyone tell me any damn thing about liberals being any smarter than conservatives .. they got played in 2006 and they're getting played again AND they still haven't figured the shit out yet.

I mean just DAMN .. .. pardon my language, but DAMN

You're absolutely correct .. Emanuel is there to put his boot up the asses of any democrat who dare oppose the messiah. Republicans don't even know what day it is .. thinking about running Palin or Romney .. they present no real threat .. and that leads to the danger most liberals haven't figured out.

We have a government completely in the hands of the puppetmasters .. the American people are just along for the ride.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Really? Obama's been in the Senate since 2005, and he's voted on over 200 bills. Which bills do you feel that he's voted on since his career in the US Senate started that make him to be non-bipartisan?

Please don't provide for me what some "independent study group" has said. I can find independent study groups that tell me the sky is green if I wanted to. I want to know what bills you, Paperboy, feel that Obama has voted on that makes him to be very bipartisan.

Don't fall for the "bi-partisan" "centrist" bullshit. Centrist politics are for losers .. winners get the business of their constituents done. That's why republicans are far better at the mechanisms of government than democrats. Even when republicans are in the minority they often don't seem to be because they stand on principle, right or wrong, not the mushy cowardly middle.

The only reason republicans are calling for bi-partisanship now is because they're the losers.

Ronald Reagan did not govern from the damn weak-ass middle .. he goverened from the right and republicans believe him god-like and still yearn for him long after he became a vegetable. Neither Reagan or the republicans give a damn about centrist politics, they govern from the right.

Keep in mind that democrats were counting republicans out when Clinton took office with about the exact same democratic majorities as OBama has .. then TWO years later republicans had both houses .. then six years later republicans had the White House and kept it for 8 years.

Centrism is the politics of cowards.

 

[DiveCon]

Don't fall for the "bi-partisan" "centrist" bullshit. Centrist politics are for losers .. winners get the business of their constituents done. That's why republicans are far better at the mechanisms of government than democrats. Even when republicans are in the minority they often don't seem to be because they stand on principle, right or wrong, not the mushy cowardly middle.

The only reason republicans are calling for bi-partisanship now is because they're the losers.

Ronald Reagan did not govern from the damn weak-ass middle .. he goverened from the right and republicans believe him god-like and still yearn for him long after he became a vegetable. Neither Reagan or the republicans give a damn about centrist politics, they govern from the right.

Keep in mind that democrats were counting republicans out when Clinton took office with about the exact same democratic majorities as OBama has .. then TWO years later republicans had both houses .. then TWO years later republicans had the White House and kept it for 8 years.

Centrism is the politics of cowards.

actually, that second "two" should be "SIX"
it was 1992 Clinton got elected, 1994 the Republicans took over both chambers of Congress, then 6 years later George W Bush won

 

[BlackAsCoal]

actually, that second "two" should be "SIX"
it was 1992 Clinton got elected, 1994 the Republicans took over both chambers of Congress, then 6 years later George W Bush won

That is correct .. and I fixed it

thanks

 

[Annie]

That is correct .. and I fixed it

thanks

I'm beginning to think that between a few conservatives, a die hard socialist, and a quasi-libertarian, we may bring some sanity here. What odd bedfellows, eh?

 

[Ravi]

Obama Speak: Bi partisan means Republicans vote for Democratics bills.

Obama Speak: Obstructionist means a Repubican sticks to his principals and does not vote for a Democratic bill.

Obama Speak: Karl Rove plays dirty. Emmanuel has sharp elbows.

What bills in particular do you feel were bi-partisan that Obama voted against?

 

[BlackAsCoal]

I'm beginning to think that between a few conservatives, a die hard socialist, and a quasi-libertarian, we may bring some sanity here. What odd bedfellows, eh?

There are also a few democrats who haven't totally drank the kool-aid .. but yes, what odd bedfellows indeed.

 

[Annie]

There are also a few democrats who haven't totally drank the kool-aid .. but yes, what odd bedfellows indeed.

Very true, but it's all fun! Yes, there are some thinking democrats, problem is they aren't 'angry.' I wish they'd join us and make those die hards realize they should be celebrating cause the honeymoon will be very short. Too short and while it isn't fair, life isn't.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Very true, but it's all fun! Yes, there are some thinking democrats, problem is they aren't 'angry.' I wish they'd join us and make those die hards realize they should be celebrating cause the honeymoon will be very short. Too short and while it isn't fair, life isn't.

After 8 years of Bush they're reluctance to disengage from Bush-hate mode is understandable .. however, reality is going to smack them in the face real hard, real soon.

I got a big bag of "told you so's" sitting right next to my computer.

 

[Annie]

After 8 years of Bush they're reluctance to disengage from Bush-hate mode is understandable .. however, reality is going to smack them in the face real hard, real soon.

I got a big bag of "told you so's" sitting right next to my computer.

LOL! They keep posting things that beg for adding to. When one does, their heads explode. I'm hoping Obama and his group are doing much better than his acolytes.

 

[DiveCon]

After 8 years of Bush they're reluctance to disengage from Bush-hate mode is understandable .. however, reality is going to smack them in the face real hard, real soon.

I got a big bag of "told you so's" sitting right next to my computer.

there are some that i swear they scream out "DAMN that BUSH" everytime they stub a toe or bang a finger

 

[Navy1960]

I submit that anyone who believes that Emanuel was hired as a symbol of bi-partisanship does really not understand the job of the Chief of Staff. While I am no supporter of Emanuel the choice makes complete sense, President-Elect Obama would need someone that not only knows the congressional democrats that are the majority party on the Hill but also someone that will carry out the Presidents wishes and keep those in line that stray from the reservation when the President needs legislation passed. So in that respect the choice makes complete sense.

 

[elvis]

After 8 years of Bush they're reluctance to disengage from Bush-hate mode is understandable .. however, reality is going to smack them in the face real hard, real soon.

I got a big bag of "told you so's" sitting right next to my computer.

I look forward to seeing them.